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sr. member
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Dev I told every one not to sell before christmas and i don't sell i love this coin but i give you one day before christmas 5000ssd..
Why you are always here Thanks...Let's have great ssd weeks.



Im always here cause I usually always have a window left open for bitcointalk.
sr. member
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Dev I told every one not to sell before christmas and i don't sell i love this coin but i give you one day before christmas 5000ssd..
Why you are always here Thanks...Let's have great ssd weeks.

hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
On another note, You said that you have been watching this coin from the very beginning, LongAndShort, Why then did you wait till today to say anything about it. You could have said thanks for including the copyright info when I added stealthaddresses, you could have said your copyright info needs fixing when you first noticed this when I launched the coin. But the fact of the matter is you didn't.
I feel that something changed today

Oh man, you mean longandshort is butthurt about that vote.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

That's over the top.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
And you wonder why people don't take you seriously!

I really don't wonder that or give a shit.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1005
For MacBooks pro Refresh Rich List... Go To Rich List Hold Ctrl point the mouse on a white piece after addresses and click right and refresh..

Yeah in windows wallet too Richlist begins to update. Thanks Dev for quick solution like always.
sr. member
Activity: 326
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SHPING Presale:22-31 JAN / Crowdsale:22 FEB-23 MAR
For MacBooks pro Refresh Rich List... Go To Rich List Hold Ctrl point the mouse on a white piece after addresses and click right and refresh..
legendary
Activity: 1078
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If I thought there was an oversight and the Developer didn't give proper credit, I would do the sensible thing and just PM the developer.

These Shadowcoin Fanboys have been feeling butthurt about Stealthcoin using their open source code...that's all this is about....a lingering feeling of butthurt and the fact that, so far, Shadowcoin just isnt a big seller. booofuckinhooo.

Shadowcoin got one good pump by Bobsurplus (although he is probably to ashamed to admit to ever owning any SDC) then it's been dead cat bounce ever since.  The coin is not the problem. The problem is that the community is in large part aggressive butthurt trolls from all corners of the globe. And then there's the fact that a couple of the SDC investors own a huge portion of the coins.  Thats why I dumped all my SDC.

You win arrogant fool post of the day..Good for you. Why would we be butthurt? It's open source are you even sure what that means and what my post was even about here.. Your post is showing just how far from the truth your assumptions are.

Ah, I was told you were trolling here too.

Shadow sucks dude. Trolling a bunch of coins isn't going to change that.

Like I said in the other thread, post a pull request with the changes you think are appropriate. Comments work like this:

Code:
// everthing after the two backslashes is a comment (this is a comment)
// my butthurt coin deserves credit! (C) 2014, ButthurtCoin Devs

Now you are a coder!

Get to work or shut the fuck up.


And you wonder why people don't take you seriously!
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
If I thought there was an oversight and the Developer didn't give proper credit, I would do the sensible thing and just PM the developer.

These Shadowcoin Fanboys have been feeling butthurt about Stealthcoin using their open source code...that's all this is about....a lingering feeling of butthurt and the fact that, so far, Shadowcoin just isnt a big seller. booofuckinhooo.

Shadowcoin got one good pump by Bobsurplus (although he is probably to ashamed to admit to ever owning any SDC) then it's been dead cat bounce ever since.  The coin is not the problem. The problem is that the community is in large part aggressive butthurt trolls from all corners of the globe. And then there's the fact that a couple of the SDC investors own a huge portion of the coins.  Thats why I dumped all my SDC.

You win arrogant fool post of the day..Good for you. Why would we be butthurt? It's open source are you even sure what that means and what my post was even about here.. Your post is showing just how far from the truth your assumptions are.

Ah, I was told you were trolling here too.

Shadow sucks dude. Trolling a bunch of coins isn't going to change that.

Like I said in the other thread, post a pull request with the changes you think are appropriate. Comments work like this:

Code:
// everthing after the two backslashes is a comment (this is a comment)
// my butthurt coin deserves credit! (C) 2014, ButthurtCoin Devs

Now you are a coder!

Now get to work or shut the fuck up.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1050
In regards to the sourcing your material. If you though there was a change that needed to be made and did not want to come across as an attempt to start fud there are many ways with which you could have reached out and said something to me rather than make a bold post that you then cross-posted in the razorcoin thread. I have made no effort to hide that I started with stealthcoin as my root. When I went through and added stealthaddresses branded as TimeVortex v.2 I kept all the copyright info for the sources I used. Hell if you look at some of the documentation in my git you can see that StealthCoin and whoever it was sourced from started with bottlecaps. What I want to know though is if you feel I should be responsible to track down the source of every file used? Frankly I feel this a bit absurd. If you feel credit is due where it wasn't give though By all means tell me, privately, and then if I do nothing about it feel free to put it on blast.
On another note, You said that you have been watching this coin from the very beginning, LongAndShort, Why then did you wait till today to say anything about it. You could have said thanks for including the copyright info when I added stealthaddresses, you could have said your copyright info needs fixing when you first noticed this when I launched the coin. But the fact of the matter is you didn't.
I feel that something changed today and you saw a need to try and tear down my coin publicly over something that could have just as easily in a private manner with the same end result. Instead though you showed your true intent and continue to attempt to justify it. You are FUDing, justify it all you want, but this was the reason behind your post.

Argakiig
Russel
SonicDev

On a side note Richlist cron had frozen if you refresh it in your wallet you will see it has updated.
for those of you on mac here is a helpful link for how to rightclick with a single button mouse so you can refresh http://www.wikihow.com/Right-Click-on-a-Mac

Enjoy

Thankyou, hoewever, anybody should be able to come to any thread or any forum and say what i did and not be treated in such a way. Fud or not i'm not in control of what misguided fools think i'm just pointing something out. and the logic is sound thats why it is done the way it is done already not so people can change the way its done because it suits them!

Most of you think these threads are pr thread which they really arnt. you want to stash all the issues away and hide them but they are sitting there in your code lol most of you are just worried about nothing you have nothing to worry about if your coins is as good as you think then show some faith and roll with the flow
sr. member
Activity: 658
Merit: 257
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In regards to the sourcing your material. If you though there was a change that needed to be made and did not want to come across as an attempt to start fud there are many ways with which you could have reached out and said something to me rather than make a bold post that you then cross-posted in the razorcoin thread. I have made no effort to hide that I started with stealthcoin as my root. When I went through and added stealthaddresses branded as TimeVortex v.2 I kept all the copyright info for the sources I used. Hell if you look at some of the documentation in my git you can see that StealthCoin and whoever it was sourced from started with bottlecaps. What I want to know though is if you feel I should be responsible to track down the source of every file used? Frankly I feel this a bit absurd. If you feel credit is due where it wasn't give though By all means tell me, privately, and then if I do nothing about it feel free to put it on blast.
On another note, You said that you have been watching this coin from the very beginning, LongAndShort, Why then did you wait till today to say anything about it. You could have said thanks for including the copyright info when I added stealthaddresses, you could have said your copyright info needs fixing when you first noticed this when I launched the coin. But the fact of the matter is you didn't.
I feel that something changed today and you saw a need to try and tear down my coin publicly over something that could have just as easily in a private manner with the same end result. Instead though you showed your true intent and continue to attempt to justify it. You are FUDing, justify it all you want, but this was the reason behind your post.

Argakiig
Russel
SonicDev

On a side note Richlist cron had frozen if you refresh it in your wallet you will see it has updated.
for those of you on mac here is a helpful link for how to rightclick with a single button mouse so you can refresh http://www.wikihow.com/Right-Click-on-a-Mac

Enjoy
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
Avatars are overrated.
If people did not have their names on papers then we have no base of where information comes from and how to get to the people who created it to work with them or ask them questions not only to give a bit of credit and stroke and ego!...like..ugh what you just said made my head hurt so much it is impossible that you are that naive to think its not important to be able to trace back origin in anyones contribution in anything. And saying other then it being an ego stroke are you kidding me... If we don't have some formal procedure for things we will never have anything in order in this world and will have no history to show our kids or their kids kids and we lose track of everything. We can trace back the origin of most information used today back 1000s of years to an author why do you think this is just some ego trip trend that just started in your lifetime cmon get real you cant possibly be that dense and blind!? can you?

Open source means its out there to scrutinize now how are you meant to properly scrutinize something and or contribute if you cant trace it back to its origin and talk with them! Sure we manage without it but its important to be able to give proper credit where is't due because its polite but its not there because of that its there for many other reasons so why justify a developer changing the copyright and putting his name to something he didn't write in the first place i just don't get you logic here it wasn't a big issue i brought it up and look at how most of you react to it!

Look at every piece of code in these branches and tell me they don't show a copyright for a reason other then to stroke ego if at all they show a copyright at all. Try telling me every white paper ever written didn't actually need a name on it! When you start saying "ahh its ok to just change the facts around" Then you know you are in a ton of trouble and i suggest you look into that!
No need to act like a dick about anything. This is just my opinion. I am not trying to make your head hurt, just stating the obvious that in 10 years there will be pieces of a lot of cryptos currently implemented in ... like ...everything. Open source does not mean it's out there to just to scrutinize; it means the code is open for community involvement entirely. We are currently shedding coins at a staggering rate and yes I think it would be a mere annoyance to source everything happening right now concerning that. If people were really concerned with the tech they are inventing and open sourcing then they would create separate gits for those features individually right? We have devs that create a coin just to make money on one innovative idea (mostly hype) they had then they abandon it and are never heard from again but just because there is noone behind the innovative tech to source, should it get left behind? Hell no. I think sourcing and IP is a waste of time but I guess you could reference Tesla and Edison. Whatever, I still have a bajillion different types of lightbulbs and none of them have anyone's name on them.
legendary
Activity: 1876
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http://cryptobe.com/chain/SonicCoin new block explorer is up and running

argakiig you're good with this block explorer thing why don't you make one for your own coin?

I said why a long time ago. First off I wanted someone else to do it since it shows more community involvement, Secondly I haven't had the time.

Community is already involved to support the both ice breaker innovative coins. These are going to be huge in short period of time. Community Support You,Community Love You,Community is with You
legendary
Activity: 1008
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http://cryptobe.com/chain/SonicCoin new block explorer is up and running

argakiig you're good with this block explorer thing why don't you make one for your own coin?

I said why a long time ago. First off I wanted someone else to do it since it shows more community involvement, Secondly I haven't had the time.

We need a working rich lists
sr. member
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http://cryptobe.com/chain/SonicCoin new block explorer is up and running

argakiig you're good with this block explorer thing why don't you make one for your own coin?

I said why a long time ago. First off I wanted someone else to do it since it shows more community involvement, Secondly I haven't had the time.
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
http://cryptobe.com/chain/SonicCoin new block explorer is up and running

argakiig you're good with this block explorer thing why don't you make one for your own coin?
sr. member
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legendary
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Its not fud i'm just pointing something out gawd! Some of you *stares at emilio* are so protective where most people just don't care.

They just fix it or learn! Some of you are so wrapped up in its price and trying all you can to maintain it you just miss the point of open source being a place to scrutinize code and make sure its legit and some of you don't care and just fix it cause thats the damn point of all this!!

its not about tearing each other down its about collectively bringing up the standard of this space and educating the newcomers on the culture..*stares at emilio*
LOLED hard. Thanks for this post buddy. Also, while I agree with your point about "its not about tearing each other down its about collectively bringing up the standard of this space"... I disagree with sourcing all innovations leading up to the current state.

If you don't want your code used on other people's cryptos then don't open source it. If you do then expect people to change minuscule items and call it their own. That's just how the world works right now.

So you are saying its right to take someones copyright off and put your own and call that piece of code your own, cmon! I'm sure thats not what you mean, really, is it?
Are you also saying that you agree with me that its a good thing to try and bring the standard of this space up. But condoning the use of someones code and taking off their copyright and putting your own and justifying somehow. Saying its open source all while totally missing the point of what ive been pointing out here!? I'm sure thats not what you mean either is it i mean how stupid does that sound?

Open sourcing something does not mean people should take your code and remove copyright and call it their own. That is my point and my point is also that a dev from the outside coming in seeing people do that and get away with it with ludicrous justifications like yours. imagine how that looks..im sure you agree it is not appealing.

I ask, how are we ever going to be taken seriously when even the people within don't even understand what open source is and how to be polite to one another when shown something they need to fix! AND it does need to be fixed because it is not code written by stealthcoin project and should not be copyright under their project! It derives from RAZOR project and needs to be traceable back to them for future reference...

And its just the right thing to do! Like it or not my point was simple and i gave proof that a problem exists and you are just perverting it and having a good old laugh when there just isn't a thing funny with it! So i suggest you look into that!
I think that IP is a temporary human/ego based idiom of society. I think that if someone does cross the line from "this is mine" to "this should be shared with the world" they shouldn't complain if they see it elsewhere unsourced. Remember giving someone credit for something is just ego stroking and should be saved for college courses. Real world there is too much going on to give a crap. If the only purpose of going open source is for an audit then you missed the purpose to begin with.

All of this crypto derives from bitcoin or litecoin. And what are we really concerned with the technology or a copyright that references 300 different antiquated and most likely dead projects?

Also, I have been a big supporter of Open Source ever since I realized it's value from the Open Office project. Now saying the crypto community (flagging this coin specifically) is ignorant about open source is flat wrong especially when compared to the rest of the world (https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13rdjryqyn1xlt3522sxpugoz3gujbhh04).

I made a point and you guys are dragging it out, turning it into everything its not and your examples are flawed.

If people did not have their names on papers then we have no base of where information comes from and how to get to the people who created it to work with them or ask them questions not only to give a bit of credit and stroke and ego!...like..ugh what you just said made my head hurt so much it is impossible that you are that naive to think its not important to be able to trace back origin in anyones contribution in anything. And saying other then it being an ego stroke are you kidding me... If we don't have some formal procedure for things we will never have anything in order in this world and will have no history to show our kids or their kids kids and we lose track of everything. We can trace back the origin of most information used today back 1000s of years to an author why do you think this is just some ego trip trend that just started in your lifetime cmon get real you cant possibly be that dense and blind!? can you?

Open source means its out there to scrutinize now how are you meant to properly scrutinize something and or contribute if you cant trace it back to its origin and talk with them! Sure we manage without it but its important to be able to give proper credit where is't due because its polite but its not there because of that its there for many other reasons so why justify a developer changing the copyright and putting his name to something he didn't write in the first place i just don't get you logic here it wasn't a big issue i brought it up and look at how most of you react to it!

Look at every piece of code in these branches and tell me they don't show a copyright for a reason other then to stroke ego if at all they show a copyright at all. Try telling me every white paper ever written didn't actually need a name on it! When you start saying "ahh its ok to just change the facts around" Then you know you are in a ton of trouble and i suggest you look into that!

Keep banging on about this and ill go all day i didn't do anything wrong and this is not a debate you will win because its simple Stealthcoin disrespectfully and unethically  changed the copryright of this code  https://github.com/razor-coin/razor/blob/master/src/tor/razor.h
making it this code https://github.com/StealthSend/Stealth/blob/master/src/tor/adapter/stealth.h
which you now use in your code https://github.com/SonicScrew/SonicScrewdriver/blob/master/src/tor/stealth.h

I pointed it out and thats the end of it but you guys are dragging it out like it threatened your meager existence and that just not true it is as simple as that!

We are all mostly aware it happens and all should be aware and should be against it rather then for it because it really creates more complication then its worth especially for people in 100 200 years or even 3-5 looking back on this!

And if thats what they chose to do then thats good but they should be able to at least trust their ancestors that they were mature enough and evolved enough to have such a procedure where they documented things properly!
sr. member
Activity: 326
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In the mean Time  i can not update my Rich list on a Mac...Right click is not working / cmd clicking is not working. So if some one no how i can update the Rich list please let me no.
Richlist isn,t updating on windows too. But you know NewblockExplorer is being made then all will be resolved.

Thank's for your support.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1005
In the mean Time  i can not update my Rich list on a Mac...Right click is not working / cmd clicking is not working. So if some one no how i can update the Rich list please let me no.
Richlist isn,t updating on windows too. But you know NewblockExplorer is being made then all will be resolved.
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250
SHPING Presale:22-31 JAN / Crowdsale:22 FEB-23 MAR
In the mean Time  i can not update my Rich list on a Mac...Right click is not working / cmd clicking is not working. So if some one no how i can update the Rich list please let me no.
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