Topic: Staff member dserrano5 promoting scam - should he remain with default trust? - page 4. (Read 4223 times)
June 18, 2015, 06:18:05 AM
those poor and desperate enough to participate in paid signature campaigns do not deserve to be taken seriously
June 18, 2015, 05:58:28 AM
Seen it all now a staff member on default trust who promotes a ponzi scam 
I expect people to follow their own judgement. Those who act depending on the actions of "a staff member on default trust" deserve to be burned.
Maybe I'm expecting too much.
So newbies who are highly likely to regard BCT Staff members as reliable indicators of trustworthy services should basically go fuck themselves because you feel like taking advantage of your position to earn yourself a few dollars?
Nice morality you got there, does it come in 'decent' or do you only do 'I got my satoshis so fuck you'?
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 509
I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!
June 18, 2015, 05:49:52 AM
IMHO he should be removed from DefaultTrust trust list but should be allowed to remain in default trust depth 2.
June 18, 2015, 05:39:26 AM
Yes.
June 18, 2015, 05:11:55 AM
Wow look ma, I've become famous 
.
.Judging by your response are we to assume not a fuck is given on this matter?
If so, that is extremely worrying.
June 18, 2015, 05:06:30 AM
Wow look ma, I've become famous .
(or my PGP has been compromised as well)
edit: a better signed message.
.can anyone confirm that Staff Acc is NOT compromised?
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
as of 2015-06-18, dserrano5 account at bitcointalk has not been compromised
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1
iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVgoF0AAoJEBvMGh8oCgH5muIQAKntCTi3ySlBl8mlMXGYPYGX
Iw80lRwJqYRQkLoKXNLlATEp5En64yMs91KQnEpKvuBvZzTd3HUDb7CJ7EczFSZV
diGfLYZGsPE5hWL8u2rOXJWH3x/twXUbnstJD0Y6wNBVTBPkj+rxua0YcYazyGIp
mLrmMvKSxxfLvCNoHHfXvBobyrqHuPAl5J0yc3ltPRRJ8kMz8g0xpu1yIGm+PIbj
n8QZVBJpkrmg9YoN6MzY2vobQ3XST/RfQ4A4rtEtlztDMe79CcpR/LfA23WENT6G
CWpp3V4xy+u4WGNberfJwZ8cKWWzaAC2WF9wJ1gJDMMh2iPk8xfLENYBhANfqHMU
nCZDFeIg+7ljz1yWyiMLeNpjA8RnCokIuba43KgzxIvIzP79pjB+qoV5kzY2Jfck
DDvOeroj3DD5zsap++dTJDg2gCJzhSByOMyu8xs2VkSGCEn8Qe8wJLHTWXumjEd0
h6twNS0fUbvpYQqyGfO/W4+nEgh6IWqhBvOChs2DVJ0PfCSRbDtPs3pMBTI6LgAm
wOGfEXTKzEFSK1ccydWCPA03p88mYp1sJR/a6N/bN299d9r5HB72DWMxu5UwzXjL
KqZVsQ3/h+I+uxMYKiQ56XTtyjteMx5Qo7ZmqgZz5dGt7w2DFPqUpwVzlg7tas5u
xUsYLzmNXjq1WSsmKYe8
=/9xA
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(or my PGP has been compromised as well)
edit: a better signed message.
You didnt really answer to the topic, did you know that they are a likely scam? Obviously you do know now and i see you still have their avatar, as i said i know its not 100% confirmed scam but still..
June 18, 2015, 03:28:35 AM
Wow look ma, I've become famous .
(or my PGP has been compromised as well)
edit: a better signed message.
.can anyone confirm that Staff Acc is NOT compromised?
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
as of 2015-06-18, dserrano5 account at bitcointalk has not been compromised
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1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=/9xA
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
(or my PGP has been compromised as well)
edit: a better signed message.
June 18, 2015, 03:02:48 AM
I just posted this in the Scam Accusation thread and think it's relevant here, so I'll cross post it if that's ok.
..and you can't even give him negative trust, because if he will push it back with his default trust power, you are screwed forever with negative rating.
edit: there will be for sure side effect of this - if some hero/leg was not if sure if to join or not, after staff joining decision became quite simple..
It's a shame that a staff member advertises a scam.
I have excluded him from my trust network, you can't trust a member who knowly advertises a scam!
Someone should open a topic in meta to remove that user from default trust list,this is unbelievable!
Playing Devil's Advocate, the obvious answer to that would be "Who have they scammed, show me?"
Personally, I wouldn't trust or have any dealings with someone who promoted a likely scam simply for the campaign money.
It would indicate to me that, for example, if they agreed to sell me something and got a better offer at the last minute, they would likely renege on the deal because that would be consistent with their approach to money 'at all costs'.
There is a big difference between forum trust ratings and real world trust. Situations like this are useful because they show people's true colors.
He apparently knows he's promoting a scam and doesn't care. Disgusting!
..and you can't even give him negative trust, because if he will push it back with his default trust power, you are screwed forever with negative rating.
edit: there will be for sure side effect of this - if some hero/leg was not if sure if to join or not, after staff joining decision became quite simple..
It's a shame that a staff member advertises a scam.
I have excluded him from my trust network, you can't trust a member who knowly advertises a scam!
Someone should open a topic in meta to remove that user from default trust list,this is unbelievable!
Playing Devil's Advocate, the obvious answer to that would be "Who have they scammed, show me?"
Well to be fair all the red trust ratings against cloudthink are like: ''its probably a ponzi'' ''there's a high chance CloudThink is just another scam. check link for details."
Its not confirmed 100%
Its not confirmed 100%
Personally, I wouldn't trust or have any dealings with someone who promoted a likely scam simply for the campaign money.
It would indicate to me that, for example, if they agreed to sell me something and got a better offer at the last minute, they would likely renege on the deal because that would be consistent with their approach to money 'at all costs'.
There is a big difference between forum trust ratings and real world trust. Situations like this are useful because they show people's true colors.
June 18, 2015, 02:57:38 AM
It is beyond me how a staff member can't check trust of a campaign manager: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=354495
it's so obvious. can anyone confirm that Staff Acc is NOT compromised?
it's so obvious. can anyone confirm that Staff Acc is NOT compromised?
June 18, 2015, 02:45:43 AM
I'm pretty sure he knows that he advertises a scam.
honestly, if he knows it, it is even worse. I really don't want to think about side effects of his greedy decision..
June 18, 2015, 02:43:10 AM
@NLNico I'm pretty sure he knows that he advertises a scam.
I expect people to follow their own judgement. Those who act depending on the actions of "a staff member on default trust" deserve to be burned.
Maybe I'm expecting too much.
My actions don't represent the health (?) of the forum. Fortunately.
1 million satoshi is not dust in my book. If you consider it dust, well congratulations, for you must have tons of coin
.
When criticized for supporting a scam, dserrano5 responded like this (bold added by me). He apparently knows he's promoting a scam and doesn't care. Disgusting!
Seen it all now a staff member on default trust who promotes a ponzi scam
I expect people to follow their own judgement. Those who act depending on the actions of "a staff member on default trust" deserve to be burned.
Maybe I'm expecting too much.
Shows the health of this forum
My actions don't represent the health (?) of the forum. Fortunately.
what else would you do for a bit of dust?
1 million satoshi is not dust in my book. If you consider it dust, well congratulations, for you must have tons of coin
.When criticized for supporting a scam, dserrano5 responded like this (bold added by me). He apparently knows he's promoting a scam and doesn't care. Disgusting!
June 18, 2015, 02:37:48 AM
Actually he didn't join signature campaign AFAIK, but still promoting a ponzi scam. I said this before to someone else, so I will repeat:
dserrano5, did you read all posts in the scam accusation topic? You are promoting a ponzi scam, the only reason why cloudthink can get any victims from bitcointalk is because of people like you. They don't even have an announcement topic since they know it will have relevant/non-spam good questions that they cannot answer. The avatars/signatures are literally the only way for them to promote their scam here. Do you really need money so bad that you let others be scammed for it? Sounds like really bad morals to me. Please read the scam accusation thread if you really have doubts and want to do the right thing. As a legendary staff member (who is on level 1 DT) I really think you give the wrong signal promoting ponzi scams like that.
For those saying "they didn't scam yet", please read the scam accusation topic. I cannot imagine anyone can give them the benefit of the doubt after reading the arguments. Let's not support/promote scams, especially as members who have been around here for a long time.
dserrano5, did you read all posts in the scam accusation topic? You are promoting a ponzi scam, the only reason why cloudthink can get any victims from bitcointalk is because of people like you. They don't even have an announcement topic since they know it will have relevant/non-spam good questions that they cannot answer. The avatars/signatures are literally the only way for them to promote their scam here. Do you really need money so bad that you let others be scammed for it? Sounds like really bad morals to me. Please read the scam accusation thread if you really have doubts and want to do the right thing. As a legendary staff member (who is on level 1 DT) I really think you give the wrong signal promoting ponzi scams like that.
For those saying "they didn't scam yet", please read the scam accusation topic. I cannot imagine anyone can give them the benefit of the doubt after reading the arguments. Let's not support/promote scams, especially as members who have been around here for a long time.
June 18, 2015, 02:29:51 AM
As in subject, one of legendary staff members started promoting obvious ponzi with avatar/personal text just because they are paying more. Whoring?
...and is ok, that those kind of guys are in default trust list? How can anybody believe default trust members (level 1), if they are whoring like this?
related SA thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudthinkio-removed-management-pictures-after-being-caught-with-stealing-1074272
edit: dserrano5 changed his mind: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11654940
we don't need this thread anymore - LOCKED
Username: dserrano5
Bitcoin Address: 1CLoudQ85cVQ8pz75aZkxLmEJgqtC1kQAM
Member Type: Legendary
Date Joined: Wed 17th
Post count: 4774
Avatar and personal text changed.
Bitcoin Address: 1CLoudQ85cVQ8pz75aZkxLmEJgqtC1kQAM
Member Type: Legendary
Date Joined: Wed 17th
Post count: 4774
Avatar and personal text changed.
...and is ok, that those kind of guys are in default trust list? How can anybody believe default trust members (level 1), if they are whoring like this?
related SA thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudthinkio-removed-management-pictures-after-being-caught-with-stealing-1074272
edit: dserrano5 changed his mind: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11654940
we don't need this thread anymore - LOCKED
Jump to: