[staff] xandry: may I ask an explanation? Response received! - page 3.

taikuri13

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Quote from: mdayonliner on June 21, 2018, 08:55:22 AM

Glad to see you here mate, the PM sender already mentioned your name to me. As you can see from the conversation I do not have the right to disclose his/her user information.

I have no right to control your correspondence

I'm not interested in who wrote you.
Here my post and I also came

Glad to meet you

mdayonliner

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Quote from: digaran on June 21, 2018, 11:48:34 AM

I have a bad news for OP, you are not in a position to "call out" moderators and ask them questions like this.

Why? What I do not have here? Do I have to have a special privileged member to find things. I do not need special treat. Thank you.

Quote from: digaran on June 21, 2018, 11:48:34 AM

theymos has already seen this topic and the rest is on him to decide what to do with his mod.

Did s/he tell you in person or this is another one of your great great ideas that you ~~create~~ come up with often?

digaran

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I have a bad news for OP, you are not in a position to "call out" moderators and ask them questions like this. theymos has already seen this topic and the rest is on him to decide what to do with his mod. you said what you wanted to say and admins know it as well.

mdayonliner

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Quote from: taikuri13 on June 21, 2018, 08:50:47 AM

This is my post in my thread.
Original.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40138293

Glad to see you here mate, the PM sender already mentioned your name to me. As you can see from the conversation I do not have the right to disclose his/her user information.

taikuri13

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Quote from: hiddenUser - Doesn't Want To Get Exposed

230 меритов за делитед 230/290 = 80%
35 меритов - за посты с направлением (в Разное и тп) = 13%
3 мерита - за ноды = 1.1%
2 мерита - доверительный трейдинг = 0.7%
3 мерита - за новые темы =1.1%
1 мерит за Битслер =0.4%
4 мерит - ушло в англ. =1.4%
4 мерит - тема о клонах = 1.4%

This is my post in my thread.
Original.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40138293

Disclaimer:
In the Russian thread, I write openly.
I do not hide behind the PM.
My opinion is open and familiar to many.
I do not know English very well.
If my words are not clear - ask and we will understand each other.

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My name is taikuri13.
In the Russian section, I'm a copywriter, merit-analyst, I'm working with numbers.
I will not list all my topics and posts. All in my ~~office~~ profile (upd)

For example:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40515966 - Analysis of deleted topics in three major local threads
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40150965 - Statistics of increase of merits for reports
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39980446 - Statistics of distribution of merits on Russian threads
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--3406681 - DdmrDdmr theme translation with the proof link

~~Once in the forum, I saw this user~~ Once I saw this user on the forum (upd)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/prismihai-2043593

I thought it was a trivial shitposter.
His posts are from a few words.
He did not write a single topic.
He does not participate in the discussion.
But he has 10 merits, WTF?
Potential Member without thoughts and threads.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2043593

My original post about this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40126250

There are a lot of users in the Russian local thread.
They write in violation of the rules.
Many do not know how to use the search engine on the forum.

I do not mind merits for reporting.
But at least through one.
Not more than 50%

For example:

1. Deleted
2. Good post
3. Deleted
4. Good thread/post

https://archive.li/045Su

mdayonliner

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Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 11:45:11 AM

You're talking about disrespect above. That is what I'm trying to say: there's no disrespect here. Most likely he just doesn't have an opportunity to be informed.

I see. Ok, you have a point now and I understand it. Thank you for pointing out.

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 11:45:11 AM

I just wanted to say that expectation could be very long and it's unlikely to be reduced by bumping. All the rest is up to you.

I have no problem in waiting... Let's see how it goes.

esmanthra

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Quote from: mdayonliner on June 20, 2018, 11:18:01 AM

All I care his response

You're talking about disrespect above. That is what I'm trying to say: there's no disrespect here. Most likely he just doesn't have an opportunity to be informed.

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I do believe him to spend some time on seeing what community is doing here and there

He doesn't read all the threads. In fact our local moderators spend more time processing reports rather then browsing.

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Don't you see my patience yet?

I just wanted to say that expectation could be very long and it's unlikely to be reduced by bumping. All the rest is up to you.

mdayonliner

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You think I am lacking common sense here?

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

In fact I can't understand why do you expect to see any reaction by changing thread titles, bumping and so on, since I doubt that xandry even knows about this thread's existence.

This is the exact reason I am doing all these, to get his attention.

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

I doubt that he spents any time browsing Meta to see it.

- Do not need to know if he does or does not. All I care his response either seeing it in meta or anyone inform him or he search using his username to see his mentions.

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

I doubt that he reads Russian topics where people discussed it to be informed.

- Again I do not care, however I do believe him to spend some time on seeing what community is doing here and there. He is a staff for a reason especially when he has a job to look after his local board.

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

I even doubt that he saw your private message (since he has got so many of them that they lie in his box for months accumulating - for example, I send him some message in february, but recieved his reply only a few days ago).

Again all these efforts to get his attention. I understand he is a busy person and being a staff for a forum like this is not easy job to handle.

Quote from: esmanthra on June 20, 2018, 10:45:31 AM

As he wrote earlier he's too busy even to read the "service" threads. So I assume you'd better be patient if you really want him to response.

Don't you see my patience yet? Or you are missing something here. May 29, 2018 to till now I am waiting and I will wait until I hear back from you.

esmanthra

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Quote from: mdayonliner on June 20, 2018, 07:44:03 AM

I have changed to topic title [...] to get attention from xandry. Let's hope it works

In fact I can't understand why do you expect to see any reaction by changing thread titles, bumping and so on, since I doubt that xandry even knows about this thread's existence.
I doubt that he spents any time browsing Meta to see it.
I doubt that he reads Russian topics where people discussed it to be informed.
I even doubt that he saw your private message (since he has got so many of them that they lie in his box for months accumulating - for example, I sent him some message in february, but recieved his reply only a few days ago).

As he wrote earlier he's too busy even to read the "service" threads. So I assume you'd better be patient if you really want him to response.

mdayonliner

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Quote from: nakamura12 on June 18, 2018, 09:53:49 AM

Xandry must have a reason why he reward merit per report as long as it is put in good use rather than abusing it. One thing, xandry may PM theymos if he can award merit by helping moderating the forum, as far as I know they have their own reasons why they do it. I respect mdayonliner but we can't judge people if we don't know the story behind it.

With all due respect to Xandry, I would also like to know the reasons if it's explainable. I believe the community needs to see transparency.

I am not sure why xandry is so quit here? I/we can expect at-least a response out of courtesy, can't we? This is disrespectful attitude from xandry, sorry to say.

Anyway here is something I would like to bring in attention. An unhappy member PMed me with his/her complain against the activities of xandry. The original message was edited back and forth with the PM sender to keep his/her identity hidden. Hope xandry notice all these posts and give us some feedback.

PS: If any mod (except xandry and any other Russian mods) wants to see the original conversation then I have the permission from the PM sender to expose it to their (mods) PM only.

Quote from: hiddenUser - Doesn't Want To Get Exposed

Hello!
I saw your thread and I have to say thank you ! Because we have very bad situation on our Russian forum. By the way sorry for my English this is not my native language.
As you know we have a lot of people that got merit just for helping moderator
Look to these guys
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1951496
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1480135
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1762404
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1479555
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mo-coin-2101883
These guys 3 of them got 10 merits and will be member only for reporting! They didn't wrote any post or something.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2043593
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1901621
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2101883
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1480135
They have 10 merits only for repost
~sniped~sniped~¹
I saw statistic on some thread and it is :
230 меритов за делитед 230/290 = 80%
35 меритов - за посты с направлением (в Разное и тп) = 13%
3 мерита - за ноды = 1.1%
2 мерита - доверительный трейдинг = 0.7%
3 мерита - за новые темы =1.1%
1 мерит за Битслер =0.4%
4 мерит - ушло в англ. =1.4%
4 мерит - тема о клонах = 1.4%

Or russian local we have 93% merits for report and offtop and just 1,1%(!!!!) for new threads!!!
93% merits 270 merits from 290 gave moders for report!!! This is insane.

I have the same situation. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=xxx.msgxxx#msgxxx¹
~sniped~sniped~¹
Because I don't think that this is right when people became Member or even Full member for report. Yes they help moderator but not forum. Soon no one will create any thread or useful posts. I even saw like for example on xxx¹ pages on some thread people wrote "offtop" or something. No one want to create something, just reporting.
Sorry for my English anyway and I hope I didn't bothering you.

¹_{Hidden to keep privacy of the PM sender.}

PS again: I have changed to topic title Merit for helping on moderating the forum (?!) to Merit for helping on moderating the forum (?!) Highlighting staff: xandry to get attention from xandry. Let's hope it works.

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nakamura12

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Xandry must have a reason why he reward merit per report as long as it is put in good use rather than abusing it. One thing, xandry may PM theymos if he can award merit by helping moderating the forum, as far as I know they have their own reasons why they do it. I respect mdayonliner but we can't judge people if we don't know the story behind it.

Harlot

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If fellow members of the forum are helping xandry to moderate the forum then this members are technically helping the moderator clean up the spam and shitpost of the forum, so I do think giving them merits for their help on cleaning up trash posts still is counted on being given merits. I know it may look like I am stretching their definition but if xandry is giving it to people who are helping him then I don't see anything wrong with it, even if their posts aren't of high quality they are still contributing to the forum elsewhere.

Sova_tmb

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Moderator himself decide who to give merit , if he so decide this his right.

ToTheMoon_XOM9IK

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Infographics:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--3406681

Our question was designed to elicit a response. Wink

ToTheMoon_XOM9IK

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I agree with you. Still waters run deep. Dirty game Wink

mdayonliner

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Quote from: Jet Cash on May 31, 2018, 05:11:35 PM

Quote from: MainIbem on May 31, 2018, 05:04:29 PM

Why are people attacking the merit system left, right and center? It shows that majority are not concerned about the quality of the forum but just quantity.

Because they are too lazy to make decent posts, and they think that the members who spent years building Bitcoin Talk owe them a living.

Left, right, front, back, bottom, above. Once they go inside then they can attack from the center Grin

Sir (

) Jet Cash left me nothing to add to answer you.

kadan500

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I think the greatest role of this system is to allow serious people to grow. In the long run, it encourages people to do more useful things, make suggestions, etc. The main thing is discovery. For the management forum, it is based on the formulation and implementation of rules, so that people consciously abide by. This will keep the forum alive.

barsharkol12

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merits plays a big role now in the system. but others are still shit posters. also the aspect that other users which are a good quality posers still no merits given upon them.

krishnaverma

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 31, 2018, 05:04:29 PM

Why are people attacking the merit system left, right and center? It shows that majority are not concerned about the quality of the forum but just quantity.

Because the majority will not be able to get merits because of bad post quality.

You can see the same behavior everywhere. For instance, when students do not get good marks in exams, they will start blaming the subject or the teacher. In reality, it is those students who are not making good effort. Same applies here.

Jet Cash

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Quote from: MainIbem on May 31, 2018, 05:04:29 PM

Why are people attacking the merit system left, right and center? It shows that majority are not concerned about the quality of the forum but just quantity.

Because they are too lazy to make decent posts, and they think that the members who spent years building Bitcoin Talk owe them a living.

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