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Quote from: Kakmakr on September 14, 2023, 01:42:53 AM

Just imagine if that was a "White hat" hacker and if he bet on the 2x and he doubled his money and left it there... Tongue

Well, you cannot be a White hat, if you risk someone else's money, but it would have been nice. Wink

It is actually sad that Stake employees are not taking this seriously .... it is not funny for the victim of such a hack... and losing that amount of money.

It is also weird that the IP address of the hacker are not supplied to you.... it might have helped you to investigate this on your own.

Lol, I bet we wouldn't be having this discussion in case the scammer (we can't call someone using a phishing link to access an account a hacker) had made a correct bet and doubled the money and then left it in the account OP would basically not tell anyone about what has happened in the fear that they might take the money away if they've got it from somewhere being unaware. Grin

However, that is not what happened and it is obviously sad and unfortunate.

However, I wouldn't blame the casino or the management for not being able to do anything since it wasn't their mistake if OP has given his access himself through a phishing link which means he basically got trapped by the scammer and it is him who is responsible for the loss and not the casino management.

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It’s an unpleasant situation. Yes, you can definitely say that the level of security of your account was not sufficient. I have a separate email for all gaming sites and systematically change passwords every few months and try not to keep funds on my balance so as not to leave hackers a chance to hack my account records. In your case, the hacker was weak and he did a dirty trick.

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Op clearly messed up here. He should have checked the link carefully which is common sense. What's actually messed up is the trash hacker who gambled away the funds after realising that he couldn't withdraw it.

That is one messed up human being. Hope he receives the karma that he rightfully deserves.

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Just imagine if that was a "White hat" hacker and if he bet on the 2x and he doubled his money and left it there... Tongue

Well, you cannot be a White hat, if you risk someone else's money, but it would have been nice. Wink

It is actually sad that Stake employees are not taking this seriously .... it is not funny for the victim of such a hack... and losing that amount of money.

It is also weird that the IP address of the hacker are not supplied to you.... it might have helped you to investigate this on your own.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on September 13, 2023, 02:23:27 PM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 10, 2023, 10:46:38 PM

- Has your concern with the stakes mate been resolved? It sounds like a lot of money to be one of the VIP customers at Stakescom, right? Maybe you are rich, and you just make gambling on the high-stakes gambling platform a hobby. Being a VIP in stakes is a privilege because you get many benefits.

Also, as far as I know, stakes will not let their good reputation be damaged just because of an issue that they are complaining about. If it has not been resolved, just wait for its response to you about that matter.

Your quote is too much, why not just crop it or make the image smaller with [img width=xxx]

I don't think so, because until now the OP has not provided clearer news.
He has been a bettor on stake.com for several years and maybe with a high number of bets to reach VIP level, but doesn't know why this happened, is this OP's negligence?

I don't think this is entirely stake.com's fault, maybe there is something else that he hasn't realized about this incident.
This is my personal assumption.

I agreed. Since the OP said that he was a victim of a phishing link, it means that stakes.com is out here, so what the OP is saying is wrong: that he is wary of other communities entering stakes to gamble. Because the phishing link is from outside the stakes platform.

In my opinion, the only thing stakes can do there is investigate what happened to Op and Matrace and where the phishing link mentioned by the author of this article came from. So, I will repeat clearly that Stakescom is not at fault here for the bad things that happened to the OP.

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Quote from: Maxbet1 on September 02, 2023, 04:50:29 AM

I was viper out. Hacker made 1st limbo bet it was winner. And he made 2nd bet on mines which was looser, 3rd limbo again looser. All bets were made in LTC 160, 155 and 168 ltc . After 3rd bet 29$ left in my account out of 10500 USD..

I have always known "Stake" casino to be very popular, good & a reputable casino with great customer services, but with this your case about phishing scam is one thing I think you ought to have known with your 3yrs experience, and as such taken the necessary precautionary measures by ensuring to turn on 2factor authentication and always checking of site URL, but I'm sure you never did any of that, and now paying the price with your hacked lost fund, which I'm very sorry for such incident, and I will like to encourage you never to give up, because a lost fund is never the end of life, but only if we could learn from it and never repeat such mistake again.

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Quote from: Maxbet1 on September 01, 2023, 11:28:42 PM

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Oh wow, you got lucky there.
Often enough these scammers, when they realize they can't cash out, they just lose everything on purpose just to make your life miserable.
1 think though, why even bother with this when they don't have 2FA. Anyway, lucky you had it activated.

Maybe it's time that every stake user has to change their email since many addresses obviously have been compromised in the hack and so on.
I don't understand why stake makes changing an email address so difficult. Have you ever try that? They want you to send countless infos, also screenshot of old wallets where you made deposits from, it's acutally insane.
If their site is so unsafe that personal data can get stolen they should at least make it easier to fix that issue I think.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 10, 2023, 11:00:30 PM

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

If it is real phishing attack, OP basically can show us the link sent to him but he should make it unclickable to avoid miss-click by others. I dont want want to have negative thinking about the story by OP, but what you say here does make senses too. I doubt that Stake is not even responding to him because if it is real, I believe Stake will give at least a reply to give him explanation or at least to say sorry of what is happened to his Stake's account. I hope OP will be able to prove more proofs about the claim that his account was compromised.

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Quote from: khaled0111 on September 13, 2023, 05:42:58 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on September 13, 2023, 04:36:48 PM

Speaking about phishing then it is a long time known kind of scheme on which these hackers do really sweep out peoples balances if ever there's one if they had successfuly do able to breach or access a certain account.

Falling victim for phishing attacks can easily be avoided by enforcing 2fa as a second layer of security. If the website, where you have funds, have 2fa and the user have activated it and kept his recovery codes safe, then even if he opens a clone/phishing website and enters his credentials there, the attacker won't be able to access the original account and steal the funds.
Most services have this feature but, unfortunately, some customer aren't aware of how important it is.

Additional security such as 2FA are a good thing but attacks such as phishing should just entirely be avoided by just being diligent enough onto verifying links and it's sources before clicking on it.
OP might have lost more than just on the gambling platform if he uses the same password and email on other platform where OTP are not offered especially knowing that his credentials work on one website.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on September 13, 2023, 04:36:48 PM

Speaking about phishing then it is a long time known kind of scheme on which these hackers do really sweep out peoples balances if ever there's one if they had successfuly do able to breach or access a certain account.

Falling victim for phishing attacks can easily be avoided by enforcing 2fa as a second layer of security. If the website, where you have funds, have 2fa and the user have activated it and kept his recovery codes safe, then even if he opens a clone/phishing website and enters his credentials there, the attacker won't be able to access the original account and steal the funds.
Most services have this feature but, unfortunately, some customer aren't aware of how important it is.

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but the exploiter wasnt able to pull those funds off but sadly it was been used for him to make out some bets and completely lose those balance

Unfortunately, this doesn't change much for OP. He still lost his money regardless of whether the attacker withdrew it or lost it gambling. It's still a loss.

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Quote from: shasan on September 13, 2023, 02:08:27 PM

Quote from: Nrcewker on September 10, 2023, 11:00:30 PM

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

There is no way to prove responsibility of the site (stake) as stake is not a part of hacking or placing any bet on behalf of the user of their site. Based on your first question I want to say that the team of stake may know details of the campaign.

There's certainly no way that Stake will be held responsible with this kind of issue as it's the player's fault to click on any link with verifying its sources (where the email came from). In regard to Nrcewker's question, it might not be the team of stake but rather other social media accounts of the OP which might exposed himself with his email and his gambling activity which caused him to be a target with this kind of scam. It's not really uncommon for someone to have multiple accounts with the same email address not only to one gambling platform or social media platforms.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on September 13, 2023, 03:52:49 PM

Quote from: Maxbet1 on September 01, 2023, 11:28:42 PM

BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.

Just venting and warning other users that stake.com is not safe and more certainly they don't care if their security is poor. They will just say account security is players responsibility.

Be safe out there and try to avoid suck irresponsible site.

I could only imagine how it must be for you and I can overly have much to say about this since, I’ve not been in these shoes before and hope not to but then, it all seems, the fault spanned from you when you said, you clicked a link you received from a mail.
It’s just that, the amount involved is much and possibly, the hacker having no means to withdraw without your notice just decided to try themselves with few games to pleasure themselves on the success they had in getting hold of your account.

That’s just hurtful but, as someone in the cryptospace and have gambled to a level of having that amount for a bankroll, you ought to have added another layer of care to avoid these.

When it comes to how safe Stake.,com is, you can’t use this phishing mail which you someworth contributed to as a bench mark. People still enjoy the site and the safe environment it avails them.

Speaking about phishing then it is a long time known kind of scheme on which these hackers do really sweep out peoples balances if ever there's one if they had successfuly do able to breach or access a certain account. Good thing that additional security measures do really make things even more harder and just like on what happened on here that it is really just your full responsibility or mistake on why you had clicked out

such link knowing that it was really that obviously a phishing attempt but the exploiter wasnt able to pull those funds off but sadly it was been used for him to make out some bets and completely lose those balance
which it is really that a sad part for OP, this is why its never been recommendable on making yourself that clicking up links randomly knowing that phishing thing is really that something
very common whether on exchange platforms or gambling site accounts or whatever accounts that has a balance or money inside it.

It isnt really just that bad to make use of your common sense sometimes on which people do really that forgotten on how to make use of it. Grin

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Quote from: Maxbet1 on September 01, 2023, 11:28:42 PM

BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.

Just venting and warning other users that stake.com is not safe and more certainly they don't care if their security is poor. They will just say account security is players responsibility.

Be safe out there and try to avoid suck irresponsible site.

I could only imagine how it must be for you and I can overly have much to say about this since, I’ve not been in these shoes before and hope not to but then, it all seems, the fault spanned from you when you said, you clicked a link you received from a mail.
It’s just that, the amount involved is much and possibly, the hacker having no means to withdraw without your notice just decided to try themselves with few games to pleasure themselves on the success they had in getting hold of your account.

That’s just hurtful but, as someone in the cryptospace and have gambled to a level of having that amount for a bankroll, you ought to have added another layer of care to avoid these.

When it comes to how safe Stake.,com is, you can’t use this phishing mail which you someworth contributed to as a bench mark. People still enjoy the site and the safe environment it avails them.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on September 11, 2023, 03:20:35 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on September 11, 2023, 01:16:13 AM

Quote from: Nrcewker on September 10, 2023, 11:00:30 PM

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

Well regardless of the fact the the OP got affected by any hacker or he himself lost the bets, in both cases stake is not responsible for his losses.

It is the responsibility of the gambler to keep safe guard his system and also not to click on any malicious links. Gambling sites are only responsible for any glitches that occur in the gambling site, which did not happen in this case.

You are very correct bud, completely agree with you, but then, it's rather unfortunate that some gamblers will always turn around to blame the casino for all their loses, both one that is as a result of the casino and one that is as a result of their own decisions or negligence.

Gambling is all about winning and losing, when we the gamblers win, the casino loses, and when we the gamblers lose, the casino wins, and when we lose due to a general hack on the casino, a reputable casino will make sure to refund all their customers affected by the incident as long as they still have funds to settle everyone and continue to run their business, but when the hack occurs on just a persons account, that is no longer the responsibility of the casino, but that if the player, the player him or herself will have to bear what ever loss that occur from the incident, since the hack only happened due to the gamblers negligence and not the casino, as what ever hack that came through the casino itself should affect almost every user of that casino, not just one person.

The blaming game is a classic move by losers who can't take responsibility for their own actions. You roll the dice, you spin the wheel, it's your choice. Grow up, people. A casino isn't your babysitter, and they're not there to coddle you when you mess up. If your account gets hacked due to your negligence, tough luck, it's on you. You don't get to blame the casino for not holding your hand through internet safety basic lesson. Repeating for emphasis: grow up and protect yourselves Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on September 10, 2023, 10:46:38 PM

- Has your concern with the stakes mate been resolved? It sounds like a lot of money to be one of the VIP customers at Stakescom, right? Maybe you are rich, and you just make gambling on the high-stakes gambling platform a hobby. Being a VIP in stakes is a privilege because you get many benefits.

Also, as far as I know, stakes will not let their good reputation be damaged just because of an issue that they are complaining about. If it has not been resolved, just wait for its response to you about that matter.

Your quote is too much, why not just crop it or make the image smaller with [img width=xxx]

I don't think so, because until now the OP has not provided clearer news.
He has been a bettor on stake.com for several years and maybe with a high number of bets to reach VIP level, but doesn't know why this happened, is this OP's negligence?

I don't think this is entirely stake.com's fault, maybe there is something else that he hasn't realized about this incident.
This is my personal assumption.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 10, 2023, 11:00:30 PM

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

There is no way to prove responsibility of the site (stake) as stake is not a part of hacking or placing any bet on behalf of the user of their site. Based on your first question I want to say that the team of stake may know details of the campaign.

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This is really bad for cryptocurrency people.Stake phishing site hack your wallet.So always becarefull people Didn't add phishing site in your wallet. didn't connect any site in your wallet. becarefull people always safe this.

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You are simply caught in scammers game OP, so the blame is yours for not been very careful online, it's been a long time that scammers have been using fake email to hunt down their victims and some of them tricks looks neat than the others. It's left for you to check every details very well and make sure that the emails are from the real company, it's good to be curious as this have saved my ass few times before.

When that curiosity comes or you suspect a link, you can reach out to the company and tell ask them if it's from them, that's where you will find out the truth, but if you lacks patience you won't want to do the findings.

I do get tons of scam emails this days from both casino platforms and also other crypto platforms but before I check them out I always contact the team or customer services and it's easier to do with telegram unless they don't have telegram, some use discord too, always verify before taking a step.

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Quote from: Maxbet1 on September 09, 2023, 03:57:33 PM

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It's probably a spoofed email. This problem has been also been discussed in stake forum in the past. The hacker appears to use almost the same email address as stake but he was just changing "L" to the capital "i(I)".
There have been many hackers used this old trick. You must be careful. I have received a bunch of phishing emails as well.

My guess it's coming from

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[email protected]

I have received some phishing emails that used capital i(I) instead of L which is lead to the phishing email from scammer.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on September 11, 2023, 01:16:13 AM

Quote from: Nrcewker on September 10, 2023, 11:00:30 PM

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

Well regardless of the fact the the OP got affected by any hacker or he himself lost the bets, in both cases stake is not responsible for his losses.

It is the responsibility of the gambler to keep safe guard his system and also not to click on any malicious links. Gambling sites are only responsible for any glitches that occur in the gambling site, which did not happen in this case.

You are very correct bud, completely agree with you, but then, it's rather unfortunate that some gamblers will always turn around to blame the casino for all their loses, both one that is as a result of the casino and one that is as a result of their own decisions or negligence.

Gambling is all about winning and losing, when we the gamblers win, the casino loses, and when we the gamblers lose, the casino wins, and when we lose due to a general hack on the casino, a reputable casino will make sure to refund all their customers affected by the incident as long as they still have funds to settle everyone and continue to run their business, but when the hack occurs on just a persons account, that is no longer the responsibility of the casino, but that if the player, the player him or herself will have to bear what ever loss that occur from the incident, since the hack only happened due to the gamblers negligence and not the casino, as what ever hack that came through the casino itself should affect almost every user of that casino, not just one person.

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