Topic: Stake phishing - page 6. (Read 1432 times)

Yes, I think all casinos will also say that it is all the player's responsibility, you should not click on any links because basically Stake may have warned this, it's just that the OP may have missed it so he doesn't know much, because I too have experienced phishing whatever hacker gets into my account, he will never be able to withdraw because of my 2FA unless he plays my balance, but I will usually log out the session on another IP and change the password.

I think a problem like that is a bit strange indeed, it's true what you say, we also won't know if the user might lose the bet, so this doesn't prove anything to say that Stake has a problem because it's all the user's responsibility, it should be if it's an email, why not? verify it on this forum to find out more about whether an email is safe from phishing or not, sometimes laziness can also harm ourselves, I think this will be a valuable lesson for the OP to be more careful in the future.

Well regardless of the  fact the the OP got affected by any hacker or he himself lost the bets, in both cases stake is not responsible for his losses.

It is the responsibility of the gambler to keep safe guard his system and also not to click on any malicious links. Gambling sites are only responsible for any glitches that occur in the gambling site, which did not happen in this case.

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

      -  Has your concern with the stakes mate been resolved? It sounds like a lot of money to be one of the VIP customers at Stakescom, right? Maybe you are rich, and you just make gambling on the high-stakes gambling platform a hobby. Being a VIP in stakes is a privilege because you get many benefits.

Also, as far as I know, stakes will not let their good reputation be damaged just because of an issue that they are complaining about. If it has not been resolved, just wait for its response to you about that matter.

You can't see the name on the screenshot. You can see only the name until op proves that. You know anyone can use the name of stake to create an email account. Even a scammer can create almost the same email of stake as the scammer has a phishing domain which is difficult to understand by fresher.

True. You can't just accuse Stake without showing valid proofs and yet you come to warn other bettors to stay away from Stake. You know I've known Stake for long and I know they're reputable enough not to resort into wrong acts that will damage their credibility. After all, what you have are just speculations and maybe false accusations so we cannot agree on your post. Just learn to improve the security of your account by not disclosing your personal details easily, that way you don't get easily scam.

I agree with tou on this,  stake have been the most targeted in recent time and rising crisis that have befall the casino made it more suspicious to see any further attacks as related to any form of hack to be a targeted tool to further afflict more harm to stake in one way or the other.

And looking from ops statement,  one will already know that,  stake is not at fault in this phising attack on ops account,  since if the hacker have access to his email to be able to get the withdrawal code,  it then means that the hack was an insider job.

Thank you for quoting OP's comment and I understand that you are trying to help but can you, please, edit the size of the images to make them smaller? Big images are a pain in the a** for us who have slow Internet connection.
Besides, OP is a newbie so even if he uses the img tags, the images will not show up.


Stake made it clear in their ToS that they won't be liable for such losses. See:

Besides, if they were to refund phishing victims then how can they know the player is not just lying by pretending his account got hacked?

I do think that when a hacker gets a hold of a certain fund, they will definitely waste NO time in transferring and getting your funds from your wallet. Just to be safe, make sure to transfer your funds into a new account/wallet and report this issue as soon as possible for Stake to take cognizance of your case.


Still, try reaching out to their customer support service but I doubt that your funds or whatever amount is stolen would be recovered. As such, may this be a learning lesson on your end to NEVER click any random e-mails or links coming from unknown sources. While this experience may be unfortunate, may this teach you on how to be more careful next time.

I don't even also think on why stake will do a refund on cases where their user got phising attack, this is not their obligation so I provably say that this is users fault for not verifying the email they receive. If there's a possible refund then provably they might be a target of another abuse so its good not to take any of it and just warn this user about those people spreading phising links to hack peoples account for sure from this they can atleast lessen up the number of newbie victims of this attacks.

The email looks like was sent from the official stake email account, can you show the complete email address of this one so we all can see whether it is from official stake or fake one.
However I have never heard about loyalty bonus, does stake provide this kind of bonus officially maybe for high rollers only?
I would to see an official response from Stake about this case so it will be clear whether it is real phising or not, without knowing the email address of the sender and without official response from Stake.

OP if you're having difficulty of embedding picture on your posts, this thread might help you:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-how-to-add-image-on-bitcoin-talk-post-5297889

as relates to the post, there's actually tons of scammer everywhere and that's the sad reality that we have to face. So as a random player, you must also need to diversify your funds at least into three locations and keep your funds and money safe with you.

If a gambler has been involved in the online casino industry for a long time especially if he is also a crypto user then obviously he already understands phishing links so he rarely tries to enter such links.
But here it seems like the OP was interested in what was being offered so he dared to take a very dangerous action and ended up losing some money.

It's true that those who don't really understand the act of theft from accessing phishing sites must learn from cases like this especially for the OP he must start learning in the future so that he doesn easily believe in things that look suspicious of a scam.

Sometimes someone needs a bitter, detrimental experience in order to learn more about always being careful and thank you to the OP for the experience shared here because it can provide lessons and knowledge for those of us who may not know much about scam sites that share phishing links.

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We cant really tell or directly be able to point out fingers that the ones behind those hacking is really coming out from their competitors on which we could really that able to say that there are really those capable ones on hacking out a site which they do see that it is really that popular and really having tons of funds inside of it. They would really be normally be finding ways or methods on exploiting it out or seeing or checking out if there would be some holes. This is one of the risks as a business owner which is related to gambling which you should really be that take priority when it comes to security but we know that there's no such thing about 100% security on this world which does basically means that nothing is unhackable.It did really just turns out that there's a solid breach on this one.

In the situation which a certain user have been able to use up his funds or having the access then it does make sense knowing about those exploits. This might be one the case that would really be related to it.
Its true that whenever you do make out some withdrawal on which it does require up some codes or verification for it to succeed which same as mentioned if ever that it was successfull then this simply
shows that the hacker does have the email access as well.

I rarely click on promotional emails, but if I need to log in again after clicking the promotional email I will stop the process immediately. New tab, open the right URL (if you are an active user you are probably already logged in), and check the promotional page. Simple as that...

Well, scammers are everywhere, and there will always be scammers around. If you don't take care of yourself, others won't be able to protect you, it was and will be! There's nothing more to be said here, we learn from our mistakes... and we pay for our mistakes! The only question is how much we will pay... it's certain that some will pay more and some will pay less... but we all pay!

So so sad indeed most especially in casino where the fund are sent to gamble with and after winning huge amount your reward get diverted to another person being the scammer, The best possible solution to such thing is for individual gamblers to be very careful with links their visit and as a matter of fact always and only use the secured website link may by book marking the site in your browser.
We have to minimize the level at which we log in to our accounts using new devices or browsers, hackers may have installed some malware into those browsers and be able to monitor your activities.

Well, many people have learnt this long time ago, but it's rather unfortunately that op is just learning about this now, although I can not completely blame him, anybody can fall victim to such, because the way this hackers build the clone website, it sometimes takes only very good and 100 percent security consciousnesses to detect that the site is fake, most of the time, the only way to know that the site is a clone is by looking at the site's web address, which will always be different from the web address of the original website ..
Even though most of the time, the difference is always by a letter which look alike, so that people will not discover if not looking with extreme care and concentration..

So as long as we are here online, it is very mandatory for us to always be very careful with clicking links, to avoid being a victim to such a tail.

I won't blame him entirely for that hacking incident. Hackers make it so believable that you could fall into that trap too. It's hard to guess what kind of mail he got without the screenshot. But I am sure the hacker copied the real one and made a fake that is identical. I guess I can make a suggestion in order to prevent such a thing. I have used this kind of service on many platforms.

So let me explain:-
As the hacker is logging in from a different device and location, there should be location and device-based login security. If you are logging in from a different device and location, you need to provide a 2FA code or a mail verification code in order to log in to that device. I don't know how much this could affect the privacy of users but I think this will improve the security to a different level. I am not a Stake user so I don't know if it is available or not. If not available then getting it on the platform will help this kind of hacking.

And the most important thing is, the platform can provide security only to an extent. In order to maintain the best security, we need to keep our accounts safe on our own. Don't click on every link you get via email. Verify first.

[I feel sorry for that incident OP. Hope you can resolve the issue. Get help from live support if possible and secure your account ASAP.]

It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.