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Topic: Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future - page 2. (Read 2173 times)

legendary
Activity: 3584
Merit: 4420
As you can see @SteveStake you can never make everyone happy. Users always find something to complain about.

I personally didn't have a problem with the number of users in your campaign but the participants that were in it. With a large number of participants there will be a few spammers, that's a given IMO. It just looked as though noone was doing any sort of quality control which is why so many others offered services.

The issue of paying all users the same is a different approach but I can't say the reasoning behind it is no good. Great point with the fact that no matter the rank a Newbie could be a better poster than a Legendary.

Users have just always seen pay increases the higher the rank. Kinda like they earned the right to earn more. They have put in the work to rank up. Now more then ever because it's so hard for some to get those golden merits.

Kudos on cleaning up the campaign and as long as you show you are doing your job(like now) then most users will not or should not have any issues with Stake.

Side note, would users quit pestering him about hiring me or any other manager. If they wanted a manager to help or take over, they woulda contacted 1 of the many that offered. The fact that he cleaned house shows me alot and he probably has it under control. I appreciate the referral but this thread has nothing to do with that stuff.

Ps I must've gone crazy. Did anyone else see I merited Thule lol. Who knew he could make a decent post with a point without going ape on someone.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 595
I haven't found my name on the list of members, so I'm gonna ask you why?  Shocked
My messages can't be called spam. You won't get 192 merit for spam.
So why was I removed?
I hope this is just a misunderstanding. Embarrassed

Steve just don't tell us how they pick the members because if you see the winner contest for HQ post in the past like Ailmand and Genemind that usually won the contest still got kicked
sr. member
Activity: 728
Merit: 317
Crypto Casino & Sportsbook
I haven't found my name on the list of members, so I'm gonna ask you why?  Shocked
My messages can't be called spam. You won't get 192 merit for spam.
So why was I removed?
I hope this is just a misunderstanding. Embarrassed
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1290
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Hey stephen!
How can I re-apply to the campaign?

Best chance to know the answer is wait for the Final announcement, based on the spreadsheet published in the OP, no new members were added yet, so I guess there's no final decision made yet.

I believe not all who got remove are spammers, so basically, they should be given a chance to work with stake again since some of them are really loyal to the campaign, and that loyalty if you are lucky to be selected again, will be compensated with a better rate.

Rate per post only has increase since max post were down to 30, so that would still lessen members income here compared to what they earned in the past which they can make over 100 posts a week, even if it's already spammy.



I think the main reason to  pay more for higher ranks is that you can put real links in higher rank sigs (I think Jr and Member cant put links, just text, and for google this makes a difference). Higher ranks allows better visibility also.

Agree, but if stake values more the post quality over the signature visibility,  then the new rate is just fair and reasonable.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
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despite the fact that my main account has 24 times more posts, and thus displays the signature 24 times more.


Since when are old posts receiving the same amount of views like new posts ?
I would not deny that higher post count will get more displays in total but surely not counting it 1:1
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 5622
Non-custodial BTC Wallet
A lot of people are saying the pay rate shouldn't be the same for all members.
Have you considered the number of posts made in the past? If I wanted to join, you'd pay me the same for my main account as you'd pay for LoyceMobile, despite the fact that my main account has 24 times more posts, and thus displays the signature 24 times more.

I think the main reason to  pay more for higher ranks is that you can put real links in higher rank sigs (I think Jr and Member cant put links, just text, and for google this makes a difference). Higher ranks allows better visibility also.

I never thought much about number of posts. Do spammers have higher than normal number of posts?this could be an interesting statistic. I think more veteran users usually have a higher number of posts.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
A lot of people are saying the pay rate shouldn't be the same for all members.
Have you considered the number of posts made in the past? If I wanted to join, you'd pay me the same for my main account as you'd pay for LoyceMobile, despite the fact that my main account has 24 times more posts, and thus displays the signature 24 times more.
full member
Activity: 924
Merit: 148
Hey stephen!
How can I re-apply to the campaign?

You should ask him if it is ok there are a lot of participants that were dropped in the list that are wearing avatar like you, it's hard for new participants to wear that new avatar because it will not work anymore, the team might reconsider you because of the avatar you are wearing but of course your posting history will be a big factor..
Sure. But it is hard to contact team both in telegram and on this forum.
They are spammed after recent changes.
I can't even tell Steven about a small payment issue because everything is spammed lol.
hero member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 567
Hey stephen!
How can I re-apply to the campaign?

You should ask him if it is ok there are a lot of participants that were dropped in the list that are wearing avatar like you, it's hard for new participants to wear that new avatar because it will not work anymore, the team might reconsider you because of the avatar you are wearing but of course your posting history will be a big factor..
sr. member
Activity: 2254
Merit: 258
Steve has addressed all the issues about Stake.com and has come out a new rules and a new pay rate, I think it's time that we show respect to the guy on his decisions to drop a lot of participants and how the pay rate is structured, let's now move on things will change for the better
let's give it to the guy who can listen and come out with a hard decision like this.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1047
thecryptocurrency.directory
A lot of people are saying the pay rate shouldn't be the same for all members. Is this because you believe if I make different rates based on rank then the rate will go higher for upper ranks? The only thing having a different pay rate will do is take money away from the lower ranks, it won't change anything for Legendary/Hero.

 Steve really is one different manager I have never seen this before but glad that he increase the pay rate, there are people reapplying I wonder if Steve will accept them again or give them a second chance if I'm on his shoes I'll take a chance on new applicants but there are good posters that were dropped also I guess they also deserve second chance.
hero member
Activity: 2310
Merit: 757
Bitcoin = Financial freedom
A lot of people are saying the pay rate shouldn't be the same for all members. Is this because you believe if I make different rates based on rank then the rate will go higher for upper ranks? The only thing having a different pay rate will do is take money away from the lower ranks, it won't change anything for Legendary/Hero.
They are just suggesting rank based pay rates because higher the rank more the signature space you get.

But it depends on the one who manages it and I too don't think same pay rate for all the campaign participants which give space for HQ low ranked poster to earn same as HQ high ranked member.
member
Activity: 184
Merit: 60
A lot of people are saying the pay rate shouldn't be the same for all members. Is this because you believe if I make different rates based on rank then the rate will go higher for upper ranks? The only thing having a different pay rate will do is take money away from the lower ranks, it won't change anything for Legendary/Hero.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1169

Last week's pay rate - $3, $2, $1, $0.50 per 10 posts (rank based)
Current pay rate - $11 per 10 posts (all ranks)

Last week's paid post limit - ∞
Current paid post limit - 30 (10 per day)

Last week's total posts - 1521
Current total posts - A lot less


It is good that you change the pay rates and making it higher than possible I only wish you can bring back the Bitcoin payment since there is no limit with the number of posts but that is your decision and I respect that,

And now that it has a limit on the last week limitless post I guess it will sure prevent spam's and burst posts, Since I have suggested it in the past on Telegram when I am only starting on the Campaign, There are many users that are contradicting this because they prefer posting without limit, So I keep my silent back then,

And I have seen that many are not in favor with the same rank payments but I am cool with it and it is still your decision if you would change it or not, well past is past and I guess you have done a great move regarding this,


Last week's total members - 125
Current total members - 27


I have seen that a lot of members had been removed even some good quality posters but overall a lot had been removed and again it is your call as a campaign manager and I am thankful because I am still in the campaign, I will do my best and strive even harder,

full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 127
Match365> be a part of 150BTC inviting bonus
Good to see that there is a changes for this signature campaign. This 100 min characters will reduce the spam. I think it's all good now, or maybe it could be even better if people in this campaign will spread their posts on the whole week. 

Because of the reason that steve will only accept participants in here, I want to regain my position in this campaign. Since I think that I'm making good quality post while being in this campaign. Safe to say, the basis of a quality post is having merits. I received many of those and I received on different known people in this forum.

Needs to be reviewed for merit abuse:
r1a2y3m4 merit received: 19 | Posts deleted: 22
The probable answer for quickseller in putting my name on his list is this: Ask these people:dbshck(staff), asu(top 3 merited user)crwth(DT1 if I'm not mistaken), cabalism13.

The campaign of stake.com is looking good now and it changed for the better. I would like to join again. No spam, quality post will come.
jr. member
Activity: 84
Merit: 2
Have a look, I think these are quality post . I can share my some post link in below:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51357311

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51342817
sr. member
Activity: 854
Merit: 281
I am glad you are making some positive changes to your campaign. Provided you can monitor your participants, your campaign shouldn’t generate too much spam (and harm to the forum).

I will withdraw my request to have your signatures banned. Although I will continue to allow anyone to continue posting in the thread for now.

I am also happy that despite my criticisms of certain sensitive topics at Bitcointalk the OGs of the forum have decided to give me a chance and continue with this campaign. While I was thinking of leaving this campaign, I decided to stay as the pay rate is better and it looks like the mood toward this campaign has changed as well.

Anyway, I appreciate the feedback and am working to improve the quality of my posts. From now on it's just about quality all the way, and the new pay structure in my view incentivizes that.
hero member
Activity: 1218
Merit: 557
Change is good as it helps you to revive and make some decisions which can help the company as well in the long run.

Couple of my observations:-

Instead of having standard pay rate for all member rank you can segregate the pay rate based on rank.
Instead of having max post 10 per day can reduce to 8 and can make max to 32.
If it permits you can increase the members for this campaign to max 50 or can increase slowly as whatever suits it.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.
It is indeed a nice move by Steve and as long as Steve is able to throw out spammer from his campaign then I guess how much and how Steve is paying is not our business at all.

Good luck Steve to you, your business and people enrolled in your campaign.
sr. member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 355
Seems like Steve will be more strict in monitoring the participants performance in this campaign.

Yeah... let's make good posts for the good for the forum.

actually, i still don't know what the criteria he made to choose the current member?
because of the active member and the most member receive rewards from HQ POST from the contest still got removed,
can @SteveStake share what the criteria for him to choose the current member? is it because the current member made a less post from the other?

I hope nobody gets angry at my post here. The way I am seeing it is that Steve is just using his own discretion in choosing who remains and who to kick in the campaign. I was kicked too but I am not complaining all because I decided to left even before Steve decided not to pick me...for the reason that I am afraid to be banned here. And I think we have to respect the decision of the campaign manager no matter how unacceptable it maybe.
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