Topic: Stake.com Signature Campaign - A new kind of future - page 4. (Read 2173 times)

Can we apply for the campaign further, or what's been stated in the opening post is the final list of the participants.

No my friend, I saw your post history and did not find anything to be Spam.  You were removed because this person reported some of the good posters even.






Sad to see those who were loyal to Stake being removed. This is a real loyal person that he will retain the signature even though he will not be paid per post.  

It is not about being dumb to use same address on different accounts,we can easily caught them tracking their transfers like what other managers does on different altcoin bounties,trust me and people who are suggesting this,this will help alot

Oops, sorry, that should be Hero/Legendary.

Just wanna say thank to Steve and Stake for the chance for being involved on the campaign since the start. I have to admit we have some arguments by private message on telegram about the campaign since the beginning but I appreciate your decision. I received 75% of my total received merit while joining your campaign seems to be nothing compared to the number of my deleted posts but it does not really matter for me.
As what you can see on my Stake's account, what I've spent is more than what I've received from the campaign and probably you can confirm that I never cashed out my campaign payment just after I received it every week. Of course it has nothing to do with the accusation that I'm a type of spammer, I participated because I like the site personally, because I like gambling, and I have to admit that there is a chance to earn extra money for my gambling activity on Stake. I've tried my best in all campaign that I've joined so far, but if it was not good enough for most people in this forum then I apologize for it. I'll try to be a better poster as I can.


One question, why you removed XinXan but you keep Bardman while they seems to be the same person?
Prove that they are probably the same person:


As archived

The same bitcoin address as you can see on Bardman profile page as archived

I have no personal issue with this member, but it wont fair for other participants. Even if you do not care about alt account joining the same campaign as long as they are great posters but it is not fair in this removal case.

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Last but not least, good luck with the campaign. I'll keep the signature for my own benefit as I can use my referral link now on the signature.

Looks much better. I would be careful with the character count though as it's not always indicative of a good post. People in the past have just unnecessarily waffled on when they didn't need to just to hit their x amount of character requirements. Some users even added invisible junk to the end of their post so the bot that was counting their characters would be tricked into thinking it was a countable post. I could have stopped there but lets just string this paragraph out until I hit one hundred characters for sure. Some more text just in case. That should do.


Why does it matter? Being a Legendary doesn't mean you make better posts and if they were all making the same quality posts then maybe they should all be paid the same, but that's up to the campaigns and if they're ok with paying the same for smaller sigs. Personally I don't care whether someone is getting 1 cent or ten dollars per post and that's up to the person whether they want to accept the rates or not, but what I am concerned is the spam. Hopefully that will stop now with these changes as long as Steve keeps on top of things.


Now I know someone is doing their job because you were one of the problem posters obviously just forcing yourself to post. It also can't be that toxic if you immediately try to get another advertisement:




Some people are that dumb or sometimes they use addresses that are later spendlinked and that's when they're busted. When you've got dozens of accounts it will become difficult to manage them all effectively and many screw up this way by using the same telegram or address or whatever. Having users pay into their own accounts would probably be easier for you to spot abuse via IPs and such, but maybe that's not something you would do.


Why? And why did you stop at Hero? Because you're not Legendary and that rank doesn't effect you?

America is putting pressure on all exchanges not to trade with its citizens. A behavior that is not appropriate for the crypto market ...

Stake excludes bounty hunter from his campaign, a longtime participant. Another inappropriate behavior ...

You're right ... I think we've overestimated you too much ...

That's great, less spam and bullshit to wade through!

after i saw the list of accepted people i saw many of them never made a post in the last 2 weeks ~ 3 months and the total post made will be too low because there are just 10~12 member that active posting.
btw will the contest still run for this week? because i just read the thread and i don't see any info about the bonus

Some thoughts:
If you put the rate in the campaign's topic title, you'll get many applications.
According to Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns, these are the highest pay rates for lower ranks. Once word gets out, you can expect many applications including alt-accounts. I know from experience that checking posts from Members is a lot of work, as most of them aren't worth it. Jr. Members will be even worse.
You can make it less work by using Merit for selection first. If you happen to find a rare Jr. Member with good posts but no Merit, please report them here so we can Merit them.
You have the rare opportunity to mean something for lower ranks, it would be really nice to see that used to reward the rare good users. Just imagine when a Member wearing Stake signature means he's a great poster!

Hmm, for me that's a lot better compare to the previous pay rates. At least the participants will now become more motivated to create quality posts because of the reward increase.
There will be a two sides of the story regarding this matter. The 27 who got chosen will be glad of course but on the other hand the remaining which are all eliminanted will surely felt bad after reading this news (including me as well). Honestly, I'm worrying a little bit because there's a tendency for you to get bashed by members you removed so prepare for it and I hope you can handle them in all peace. Don't get me wrong, I'm not scaring you I'm just saying the upcoming possible scenarios.
That's because of the lower ranked members you hired. As we look on the previous spreadsheet (why I can't gind it any longer?) most of them wasn't able to make even a single post. I don't exactly know the reason behind that but that's the sad truth.
That was I great move because you are now complying to a typical signature campaign rules . I foresee that from now on this campaign will be more less toxic simply because participants are no longer pressured of creating tons of posts for the sake of increasing the reward they could get. This means less spams and shitposts.
Honestly I am very sad that my name wasn't on the list. Yeah! I'm aware of my lapses as your participant but it wasn't my intention at all. Sorry if I only made 5 posts last week, I already told you my reason but let me repeat it for the rest to know. It happened because I got sick that's why I don't have the energy to make greater number of posts (in which you understand, thanks) and for that I'm really sorry. I'm not saying this to make an excuse I'm just stating my own side to clear once and for all that I'm not a spammer, a shitposter or a member with poor attitude. I hope you will give me a chance once again to prove you that I'm also deserving to become part of your campaign.

This post is a proof that I'm not a shitposter. I consider this post as a quality post. I know it is not so technical/geeky like we can see in the Technical Discussions Section but at least this is not a shitty post. If you still demand a post with even more quality then I will gladly give you one with as much as I can. I hope you will consider me again, thanks .

I can't win no matter what I do unless I sacrifice my life and bank account and even then someone will complain a Jr member got an extra few dollars. It's not even because people are unhappy I put the rates 3-5x higher, the highest they've ever been. It's just they think they're so much better than other people and need to be above them based on a rank that means nothing. I've realised the only thing ranks give are a better banner not quality of post. I'm a member and I know I can make higher quality posts than all of these spammers with hero/legendary that fill Bitcointalk



Thank you and I wish you the best of luck with your next campaign

OP is asking for forum members feedback, I was just giving mine, it does not have to be implemented if he don't agree with it. Peace mate.

In case you missed.

Had a blast working with Steve for the last couple of months and I thought he was a decent manager overall due to the following factors :

- Always made payments on time without any long delays
- Acted professionally with everyone
- Cleared any queries immediately majority of the time

Only issue is that he tried doing something different(No limit posting in almost all boards etc) which is pretty gutsy due to the money constraints involved and he try his best to reduce spam wherever possible(Even in the telegram group), but the rules could have been stricter(Accepting fewer quality participants and higher rates per post) which could have reduced spam even further.

Don't really care what others feel about him. In my opinion, he tried his best to be a decent campaign manager at the end of the day and never failed to make a single payment which is why I would gladly join any of his future campaigns. So many members of this forum basically ganged up on him in a pathetic manner excluding a select few instead of advising him in a constructive manner. This is a bit similar to the aTriz situation who was another manager that I worked with in the past and am sad to see his current state.

Personally, I feel that I was removed due to many of my recent(Months) posts getting deleted(Somewhere around 20) which was weird since I never felt post deletion was the primary barometer to judge a poster in this forum unless the number of posts being deleted are crazy high. Honestly, I had a great time working on this campaign promoting Stake and winning the contests regularly and don't have any qualms against anyone.

Looking forward to working with you again in the future Steve. Thank you!

Mind your own business. They can pay the same rate to anyone ? By the way, you are a hero member, let us know how can we respect you ?  


Oh You are wearing SIR Yahoo Signature (Windice) already and you want all of the campaigns should be Manged by SIR Yahoo.

SIR  


Become a campaign Manager and the implement these suggestions in your campaign and do not spam here.  



Oh really ? You are wearing sportsbet signature.  They should monitor your posts as you are just spamming the thread. Spammers are already been handled by Steve in good way.  No need for you to spam and get pay for this spam post.  



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Final Word:

Don't you see everyone here is spamming and yet they are ignored because they are not wearing stake signature  

You mean I'm over estimating the lower ranks? because this is over 3x what Legendary/hero was getting over 5x what Sr was getting. A Jr member can be a higher quality poster than a Legendary the only reason people do the pay gaps is for the banner

First of all, I'd like to say that my earlier post was not "hate", it was "logic".
Second, I haven't said anything about the pay rate you are paying per 10 posts, I said about the "comparison" between Jr and Senio/Hero/Legendary... It may also go to member/full member rank.
Third, it is your campaign and you have the right to pay whatever amount you want to pay to whatever rank. We, as a member of this forum, have the right to comment about it, either positive or negative.

I do appreciate the steps you have taken to cut out the spam. A big thanks to you!

But still, I'd say that you have logically underestimated Senior, Hero & Legendary members when compared with Jr/Member/F.Member.

Unrealistic pay rate. All rank same rate isn't wise decision. All user experiences isn't same. However its depend on you how are you going to pay participants, we can't make comment about it.

Main thing is monitor replies of your participants how their replies/post are potential. At least you have to monitor spammers as well in order to get good results.

I suggest for the rate to be not uniform, every rank should have different rate.

I guess the following rate would be competitive enough, you can already have a good poster that will be loyal to your campaign.

Here's my suggestion for 10 posts per rank.

Hero - 20 usd
Sr - 15 usd
Member - 11 usd

if you take a look at other signature campaigns you never saw the pay rate the same as other ranks


actually there are many accounts found with the same address maybe you can read this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/known-alts-of-anyone-user-generated-1206112
it countains many account that use the same bitcoin address