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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 08, 2023, 01:20:17 PM

One other thing, and please no more monster replies that congest this thread.

What explanation did you receive that denies you to deposit and basically play at stake. They must have said something and give you a reason.
Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .
If you were winning and they want to get rid of you I would understand, been through that at countless sites actually.
But since you don't win a lot, wouldn't they want you to stick around?
Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because it jeopardises your account and its VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

It is quite unfortunate that some casinos will exit a player simply because they feel that the player is winning too much on the gambling site, such operational manner because such character exhibition will cause the casino to lose the loyalty and trust of the gambling community at some point, let say we have a few of those scammy site and such we have to avoid such possibility because stake.com is one of the many reputable casinos that we have in the gambling industry today.

But much more also, we have to know that there have not been so many of those cases against stake before and anyone putting up such accusations should be ready to back the claims up with some evidence.

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One other thing, and please no more monster replies that congest this thread.

What explanation did you receive that denies you to deposit and basically play at stake. They must have said something and give you a reason.
Obviously, such as everybody that plays casino games, you are a losing player, otherwise you would not complain about the house edge .
If you were winning and they want to get rid of you I would understand, been through that at countless sites actually.
But since you don't win a lot, wouldn't they want you to stick around?
Or did you once maybe make a mistake, showing your "real" IP while logging in and you are from a restricted area and therefor don't want to make KYC because if jeopardies your account and it's VIP perks? No accusation, just a possibility.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 07, 2023, 10:34:21 AM

In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

Well, have someone send you funds via tip if you can't deposit yourself.

Once a casino breaches our agreement and unjustifiably blocks me from depositing, I will not deposit anymore because they also unjustifiably could block me from withdrawing.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM

Of course this only would work if you are not blocked from betting.

As explained above, even if I am not blocked from betting, they could block me from withdrawing.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM

On the other hand, why would you want to make bets if the casino is a scam. It's a lose lose situation.

No, it is a win win situation:

1) I need to wager 500,000 USD to reach the next nevel and receive a 6,400 USD bonus.

Stake claims that their in-house Black Jack has a 0,5% house edge when using the optimal playing strategy.

0,5% house edge minus around 0,3% rewards = 0,2% of 500,000 USD = 1,000 USD loss plus 6,400 USD next level bonus = 5,400 USD plus

2) I get hard proof of my experienced house edge during wagering the 500,000 USD

Based on the bets transaction history in my Stake account I can not see what my experienced house edge is.

The only way I could see it is to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate my experienced house edge!

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM

About the missing 10%, that are still 500k$ in wager. Taking an "only" 1% house edge in consideration ( obviously it's more ) you will lose over 5k playing while getting the missing 10%. So it doesn't really make sense to chase it yet anyway.

See above.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 04:21:13 PM

And since there are no "milestones" within the 100% it's impossible to claim 90% of the reward. If they would do that once everybody who is broke at some point wants to do it. It's designed to keep you playing and depositing, "only" some % to go, wager wager wager. Roll Eyes

Maybe you missed something, but I do not demand to pay the already cleared 90% of 6,400 USD because I am broke.

I demand to pay the already cleared 5,760 USD because they unjustifiably block me from depositing and clearing the remaining 10%.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 07, 2023, 10:34:21 AM

In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

Well, have someone send you funds via tip if you can't deposit yourself.
Of course this only would work if you are not blocked from betting.

On the other hand, why would you want to make bets if the casino is a scam. It's a lose lose situation.

About the missing 10%, that are still 500k$ in wager. Taking an "only" 1% house edge in consideration ( obviously it's more ) you will lose over 5k playing while getting the missing 10%. So it doesn't really make sense to chase it yet anyway.

And since there are no "milestones" within the 100% it's impossible to claim 90% of the reward. If they would do that once everybody who is broke at some point wants to do it. It's designed to keep you playing and depositing, "only" some % to go, wager wager wager. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 07, 2023, 10:55:05 AM

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 09:57:58 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again.... Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.

The guy is just an idiot.

A player wins 42-43% of hands in black jack but he thinks it's slightly less than 50% of hands, like it's the same as a coin toss minus house edge. I've done the math for him, and showed him plenty of links, but he insists Stake is rigged because he doesn't win as often as his fantasy math says he should.

Can't blame any casino for ignoring him after he repeats the same stupid thing the first 10 times.

And lol at thinking a casino should pay pro-rated loyalty rewards to a lunatic bc he won't verify.

TwitchySeal already informed us in the other thread that he is too stupid to understand the difference between bets won and dealer hands won!

Now he repeats the same nonsense that a player wins 42-43% of dealer hands in Black Jack!

Yes, a player wins 42-43% of dealer hands in Black Jack, but the nonsense is that this circumstance is not related to my case as I speak about bets and not dealer hands!

Quote from: TwitchySeal on April 23, 2023, 02:52:14 PM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on April 23, 2023, 02:10:52 PM

2) I posted proof how Stake scammed me:

Quote from: BlackyJacky on April 22, 2023, 04:21:03 PM

PROOF OF THE SCAM

Info 1)

If you take a look at my statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.

Info 2)

The advertised house edge for the Stake in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means longterm I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

Losing 0,5% out of 180,904 bets placed = 900 bets lost.

If you compare Info 1) with Info 2), you can see that I lost 8,327 bets instead of the 900 bets I should lose = 9 times more!

While there is a deviation from the expected outcome, it can not be 9 times more after 180,904 bets!

Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because they are neutral and you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.

4,6% of the bets lost while I should lose only 0,5% means my experienced deviation of the 180,000 coin flips is 4,1%!

Now let's take a look at the standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)

My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 34 times higher than the standard deviation (4,1% : 0,12% = 34)

B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)

My experienced deviation of 4,1% is 11 times higher than the 3 times standard deviation (4,1% : 0,36% = 11)

Info 4)

The Stake bet transaction history only states 180,000 single bet events and no overview of my experienced house edge.

To get my experienced house edge from the bet transaction history, I would need to take a look at all 180,000 bets and calculate it manually!

If the cards were dealt fair and I lost only 0,5% of all bets placed while the statistics states that I lost 4,6%, then the Stake statistics is rigged!

In either case, the Stake in-house Black Jack system is provably rigged and Stake has to compensate at least the 30,000 USD I lost from my pocket.

Their strategy to ignore me, while they are clearly at fault, will fail! Wink

This is not proof of scam. It's really just proof that either you don't understand very basic math concepts or you don't want to learn very basic math concepts because you understand they will disprove your entire argument.

When you play one round of black jack, which is what the stats refer to as a "bet", these are the probabilities for each of the three possible outcomes:

https://i.gyazo.com/32faa13ec0a1e8fb3f020990465e8e0b.png
(they will vary slightly depending on the rules being used)

As you can see, you are significantly more likely to lose than to win. This is due to two factors:

A) The house edge
B) Your average win is slightly more than your average loss since blackjack pay out 3-2, not even money.

B is the one you keep ignoring. Stop ignoring it. Better odds when you win = you will win less often.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 07, 2023, 10:55:05 AM

-snip-

Imagine, talking shit on the same casino while he think bad for him.

The shit things, he still playing or access the things he think is shit ~XD It's just a same like, you falling into the hole and know the exact location of the hole but still falling into the same hole ~LOL

I blieve, If not wrong he also want to report or make allegation case court. Still waiting until now ~XD.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 09:57:58 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again.... Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.

The guy is just an idiot.

A player wins 42-43% of hands in black jack but he thinks it's slightly less than 50% of hands, like it's the same as a coin toss minus house edge. I've done the math for him, and showed him plenty of links, but he insists Stake is rigged because he doesn't win as often as his fantasy math says he should.

Can't blame any casino for ignoring him after he repeats the same stupid thing the first 10 times.

And lol at thinking a casino should pay pro-rated loyalty rewards to a lunatic bc he won't verify.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 09:57:58 AM

Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again.... Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

No, if you used their service based on the written agreement that level two verification is not compulsory, they are not entitled to get it!

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 09:57:58 AM

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

Problem 1)

I do not give proof of my personal details to criminals

Problem 2)

I used their service based on our written agreement that level two verification is not compulsory for me and they do not have any justification to demand it.

If someone does not have any justification to demand something from me, I do not give it, simple.

Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on November 07, 2023, 09:57:58 AM

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.

Yes, this shows how shady they are, but they can not change the conditions of our relationship without my consent.

In my case for example, they blocked me from depositing after I have cleared 90% of the next VIP level which gives a 6,400 USD bonus.

They can of course decide at any time that they do not want me anymore as their customer, but in this case they have to compensate the 90% of 6,400 USD = 5,760 USD I have already cleared.

I do not mind at all if Stake does not want to take my Bitcoin anymore, other casinos will gladly do, but they have to give me 5,760 USD for the 90% I have already cleared.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

You again.... Roll Eyes

They can ask for KYC whenever they went, email or no email.
It's written in their terms, so no need to complain again.

Unless you have something to I don't know what would be the problem providing KYC.

They said a lot in the past like " once you got it, you will keep your VIP " , "we will never ask for KYC", blablabla. A lot has changed at stake in the past year.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

Level two verification is not compulsory, but it will boost your rewards during the promotions that are done. As long as this email is not asking you to click on any link to do some kind of verification, then you should be fine.

A lot of the emails that are send out these days are attempted Phishing attacks, but they come with a section where they want you to click on something to login into your account... so that they can steal your login details. Roll Eyes

Be Safe... do not click on links in email. Wink

If level two verification is not compulsory, how can they justify to block me from depositing until I delivered level two verification?

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Well, a big congratulations to you bud, and i am ultimately wishing you the best of luck in winning the ultimate prize in the challenge.

Unfortunately for me, slot games at the moment isn't really my thing, there are period i feel so lucky and very eager to try my hands on slot games, and there is other period when i just feel that playing any games that is slot related will mean me just wasting my money.

80x is a very nice multiplier, now, imagine that you had at least $50 bet on that game when you won with that multiplier, that would have been a sweet $4000plus, money good enough to start some really good business.

Anyways, one of the downsides of gambling is that we never know when we are about to win so that we can increase our bet Grin

, once again bud, good luck on winning the ultimate prize in the challenge.

Thank you! I know I will win a regular prize, like $5, but 80x is never enough to win the ultimate prize. From my experience the multiplier must be above 400x to end up in the top 25. But, of course, it's fun, and additional $5 to my already good win wouldn't hurt.

Recently in another challenge on Stake Forum, "Win a bet on Video Poker by hitting 4 OF A KIND", I got 4 Aces with my initial hand:

I see it as a big luck and I'm very happy about it.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on November 05, 2023, 03:34:53 PM

I wonder what is more popular in steak casinos - sports betting or slot machines?
I think slots come first

Slot machines/games is most popular in most casinos based on my personal experience, and this I think is because, not every gambler are into sports, betting on sports requires that the gambler have a good knowledge of sports in general, like he has to know about different teams and clubs, he has to know their strengths and weaknesses, he has to also know the individual strength of players and so on. This is the only way the gambler have a chance at winning most of his or her bets, anything outside of this, the gambler might just be throwing money away because he or she will just be placing bets on teams or clubs he or she have no clue of.

Slot games on the other hand require non of this knowledge, Infact, one requires absolutely no gambling experience to play and win in slot games, I would say that, majorly every gambler today who started gambling before they started watching and following sports, started their gambling journey with slot games.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on November 05, 2023, 03:34:53 PM

I wonder what is more popular in steak casinos - sports betting or slot machines?
I think slots come first

If you see a lot of streamers out there, you will definitely watch and see them playing slot games and we also know that slot games do not require analysis and predictions to place bets, so everyone can play them, even minors must understand how to play slots without You have to learn again, just spin then wait for the win and jackpot because slot games only rely on luck, that's how it works, it's very easy and not like you bet on sports betting.

Sports betting at least you have to master the knowledge about the sport you want to play and every bet of course requires good analysis in order to win the bet, even so it still relies on luck too, if you ask everyone in this thread slot games or sports betting, which one? which is very popular at Stake, of course people will say Slot. because it is a game for all groups and everyone can play it easily. Wink

I don't think that the simplicity of slots make it more popular choice than sports betting. Also, sometimes it's simple for people to bet on sports because all the calculation and analysis is done for free for you and that's expressed in odds. For example, low odds mean higher probability of win while high odds mean lower probability of win.

Quote from: ryzaadit on November 06, 2023, 06:41:52 AM

Before you ask these question, on gambling which sector gambling are more often being stream/video (Slot/Sportbook) off-course the answer are gonna to be (Slot). Because we have more people stream/video about slot rather than sportbook.

Are you sure that slots are more popular than sports betting? Yes, more people stream slots because there is more action in it and it's more viewable, how can one get interested by watching how someone bets on sports? Slots are more visual and attractive to watch, also, streamers often express their emotions on slots because you win or lose in a second but we also have to keep in mind that people watch sports, not how someone bets on them.

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Quote from: BlackyJacky on November 06, 2023, 05:32:00 PM

Did anyone else receive an email from Stake that level two verification is not compulsory?

Level two verification is not compulsory, but it will boost your rewards during the promotions that are done. As long as this email is not asking you to click on any link to do some kind of verification, then you should be fine.

A lot of the emails that are send out these days are attempted Phishing attacks, but they come with a section where they want you to click on something to login into your account... so that they can steal your login details. Roll Eyes

Be Safe... do not click on links in email. Wink

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Quote from: piebeyb on November 06, 2023, 01:06:46 AM

Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on November 05, 2023, 03:34:53 PM

I wonder what is more popular in steak casinos - sports betting or slot machines?
I think slots come first

If you see a lot of streamers out there, you will definitely watch and see them playing slot games and we also know that slot games do not require analysis and predictions to place bets, so everyone can play them, even minors must understand how to play slots without You have to learn again, just spin then wait for the win and jackpot because slot games only rely on luck, that's how it works, it's very easy and not like you bet on sports betting.

Sports betting at least you have to master the knowledge about the sport you want to play and every bet of course requires good analysis in order to win the bet, even so it still relies on luck too, if you ask everyone in this thread slot games or sports betting, which one? which is very popular at Stake, of course people will say Slot. because it is a game for all groups and everyone can play it easily. Wink

I am not entirely sure about that to be fair. Sports betting is a giant in the world of gambling and could there be a lot of people who would love to play that? I think there could be some sort of situation that could make it better. I am not saying it is going to be the most gambled one, but it certainly feels like it wouldn't be impossible to handle neither, looks like it could definitely happen.

I think it would be realistic to say that if one of them is leading, the difference must be not so great and could be something more smaller than what we expected. I believe that stake still doesn't have proper odds, there are other places with better odds, if Stake managed to fix that, sports could be bigger than all other games.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on November 05, 2023, 03:34:53 PM

I wonder what is more popular in steak casinos - sports betting or slot machines?
I think slots come first

It isn't really matter of opinion.

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More than 70% of a casino's revenue comes from slot machines.

And that's on average. When you look at the rtp numbers, it's easy to understand why. Some people seem to say that making decent living by betting in sports, or with poker, because odds on that are way better if you know what you are doing. But no one is claiming to make living with slots. No one would even believe that claim.

But slots are easier and changes to win high multipliers is exciting. Especially when you really can't make mistakes. You don't make wrong bets because you can't affect to outcome with slots. That's kind of comforting. You just win if you win. There's nothing deeper. I have almost zen like state playing slots.

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