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Quote from: babygun on July 12, 2023, 06:16:01 PM

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No wonder, you getting "KYC".

It's about "Sportbook". The first time, you response to my post about "KYC" you share the story of getting KYC for 50$ and I respond to you again with a message game potential is most of the time "Sportsbook". In a recent post, you shared more detail about the promotion is about "Sportsbook". Not really surprise my speculationa are correct,with my 2+ years experience in gambling thread most of problem with casino especially KYC are more often from "Sportbook" user comparing to (Casino/Slot) user.

Sportsbook can make casinos lose more money compared to other game casinos like (Casino/slot), that's why they prohibited advantage users to play sportsbooks. How they do it ? by limited the bet size, prohibited the user playing on their casino, and the last things make them facing "KYC". Same happen on "Landbase" casino about BJ, they prohibited card-counter because even the counter still can lose so much money they prohibited them comparing to other user who are playing like (Roulete).

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Quote from: o48o on July 12, 2023, 04:31:02 PM

Sure, they can ask it but for $50 it sounds unusual. Did you try to withdraw it to your bank or something?

You also mentioned promotions, may i ask if this is how you got the money? Not that it should should matter but i am trying to follow their logic of what triggered it, and why would they single you out for 50 bucks. I don't recall having to do kyc in Duelbits and i think i have withdrawn more than 50.

I always make a small deposit (only crypto) on the sites that I join, but when there are promotions (mostly sportsbet related) I try to take advantage of it (higher odds, risk free bets, ...). It can be shocking that casinos ask you KYC for low amounts, but it happened to me already a couple of times that I got used to it lol. I also have the impression that we are moving towards a trend that all crypto casinos will ask for KYC (for small or big amounts). But as ryzaadit mentions, it always depends on a couple of factors if you get asked for KYC or not.

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Quote from: babygun on July 11, 2023, 10:38:51 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on July 11, 2023, 02:51:41 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 11, 2023, 02:26:37 PM

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That's why, I most the time on casinos with higher limit withdraw without KYC.

I already withdraw a few some casino like "Duelbits" and have experienced withdrawing 3,500$ they're not requested me KYC. Stake my high withdraw 8000-9000$, and being processed without KYC.

I'm not saying they're free KYC, but they are could be have higher limit withdraw without KYC and depends your activity/factor (Waggering, Deposit, type game you're playing). I also thinking, they have group/support/CM on Local, why stake not using verification like these by their local-team to verified document Level 3/4.

I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.

Sure, they can ask it but for $50 it sounds unusual. Did you try to withdraw it to your bank or something?

You also mentioned promotions, may i ask if this is how you got the money? Not that it should should matter but i am trying to follow their logic of what triggered it, and why would they single you out for 50 bucks. I don't recall having to do kyc in Duelbits and i think i have withdrawn more than 50.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 12, 2023, 01:30:36 PM

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To be honest.

About these KYC stuff, each individual have a different case of "KYC" things. Might be on other side they're getting KYC and other side not, so just tried not too see one side only. From my experience playing casino. I see so many case on other user like they got KYC on my Casino I told and thinking is good like (Duelbit, BK8, Stake, Rollbit) some of them get a triggered KYC with a low fund. However, comparing to my self don't have found or issue withdraw more than the amount they're withdrawn.

That's why, I always told everyone depends on a few factor (potential):
- Your deposit.
- Your game.
- Your activity.
- Your account.

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on July 12, 2023, 02:15:19 AM

You seem shocked!
Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.

After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.

I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.

Holy moly! KYC for 50 bucks itself was outrageous, but KYC for 20 bucks along with so much documentation is just plain insanity. I never gambled at Bitsler and I will never recommend it just because of your issue.

Personally, I would submit KYC only if it's related to big withdrawals or if they find something legitimately suspicious related to my account.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on July 12, 2023, 02:19:27 AM

Quote from: babygun on July 11, 2023, 10:38:51 PM

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In-case for you, got the money from promotion and yeah the KYC are gonna to be triggered because you are promotion (free). Meanwhile me ? who are deposit and getting trigered KYC for 50$ ? that's really f*ck up for me, however based on the case most of these trigered KYC are depends on the game you are playing. Example, like Sportbook they could be trigered you comparing to user who are playing slot/casino game.

I have deposited several times here without taking into consideration signature money they pay us and the KYC was never triggered,it was me that wanted to go and verify myself as Level 2 KYC for the benefits of taking part in more promotions than people without KYC.I agree though KYC should only be asked after a certain good amount of money is deposited or withdrawn like minimum of 1000 and that is what most casinos do,they let you play freely until that amount and if you surpass it then KYC is automatically triggered.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 12, 2023, 03:04:25 AM

Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on July 12, 2023, 02:15:19 AM

You seem shocked!
Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.

After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.

I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.

Currently there are many KYC related cases in this crypto gambling industry, I have no idea why but seems that KYC is getting stricter these days. Afaik uploading ID + selfie photo is more than enough for most cases. Utility bill or bank statement is just complicated and I think there should be a better reason for any site to ask such document from their players. It does not make senses if utility bill is being asked for small withdrawal request. I do not even think that pure fiat casinos ask that complicated KYC verification, at least based on my own experience in local fiat casinos. Of course different country, different casino, may have their own rules.

There is no problem if casinos ask for a KYC for a valid reason or if they see any suspicious activity, if the amount is high or players place bets on sports. But, I have never seen a casino ask for KYC documents when a player deposited $10, played their in-house games and attempted to withdraw the funds after a few minutes. But, when a casino asks for KYC for a $20 withdrawal when the player never took any bonuses and did not play any games other than in-house games, I am unsure why they need a KYC.

Moreover, they don't accept local documents; they don't accept e-statements. Who takes physical statements these days? It feels somewhat scammy when a casino makes everything challenging for its players. Who will spend their days collecting those documents to withdraw just $20?

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Quote from: Learn Bitcoin on July 12, 2023, 02:15:19 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 12, 2023, 12:50:00 AM

KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank.

You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.

You seem shocked!
Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.

After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.

I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.

Currently there are many KYC related cases in this crypto gambling industry, I have no idea why but seems that KYC is getting stricter these days. Afaik uploading ID + selfie photo is more than enough for most cases. Utility bill or bank statement is just complicated and I think there should be a better reason for any site to ask such document from their players. It does not make senses if utility bill is being asked for small withdrawal request. I do not even think that pure fiat casinos ask that complicated KYC verification, at least based on my own experience in local fiat casinos. Of course different country, different casino, may have their own rules.

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Quote from: babygun on July 11, 2023, 10:38:51 PM

I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.

I wasn't really surprised by the KYC regulations in several casinos including the one you mentioned, that's why I chose Stake because they didn't ask me to do KYC for withdrawing tens of dollars let alone small money, but I don't want to compare which is the best of all sites gambling platform because I believe that every casino has different rules too, so why stick around at that casino.

To be honest, completing KYC for small withdrawals is definitely wrong in my opinion, but if it doesn't bother you that's fine too, as long as you're comfortable with it, unless you're not comfortable with it it's best to leave, find a better casino no asking you to complete KYC just to withdraw small money. although KYC is indeed a trend lately Wink

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Quote from: babygun on July 11, 2023, 10:38:51 PM

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In-case for you, got the money from promotion and yeah the KYC are gonna to be triggered because you are promotion (free). Meanwhile me ? who are deposit and getting trigered KYC for 50$ ? that's really f*ck up for me, however based on the case most of these trigered KYC are depends on the game you are playing. Example, like Sportbook they could be trigered you comparing to user who are playing slot/casino game.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 12, 2023, 12:50:00 AM

KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank.

You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.

You seem shocked!
Would you believe me if I said Bitsler asked me for a KYC to withdraw my $20 worth of TRX? Yes, they did it. I deposited $10 worth of TRX and doubled it by playing a dice game. After a few minutes, I requested to withdraw my funds, which was declined. They asked me for KYC. Well, I have submitted my ID card and then a selfie withholding my ID card and piece of paper writing Bitsler and username.

After that, they requested a utility bill or bank statement with my address. I submitted my utility bill, which was written in the local language. They denied it and asked for different papers. I downloaded my bank statement, and they denied it again, saying e-statement is not allowed. They want a statement with the stamp and signature of the bank officer. Meanwhile, I gambled again and lost it.

I don't think I have to explain how terrible the experience was.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 11, 2023, 02:26:37 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on July 11, 2023, 01:43:07 PM

Meanwhile, the document (local) like water bill & other are using local language because is being used 98% are only for our country.

A user of Stake is trying to complete the level 3 KYC verification since last 4 months: Impossible KYC Requirements - Stake.com - Withholding $6000 USD.

The user is a resident of Thailand, and he had submitted electricity bill documents which were in Thai language. Stake team has rejected the documents. Even they didn't accept his documents which were in English. The submitted documents need to be in 'Latin international format' as Stake.com accepts this format only. Utility bills are in local language in most of the Asian countries. So, the level 3 and level 4 verification will be complicated for a lot of gamblers who live in Asia.

I honestly think that they are stalling the verification, because they do not have someone that can read/write the Tai language. I think they might outsource the verification of these documents and whomever is responsible, does not have the ability to validate the documents.

Stake will not do this on purpose, because lots of other gamblers has done the level 3 and level 4 verification. In any way... $6000 is nothing for them, because they are making millions of Dollars every week. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: babygun on July 11, 2023, 10:38:51 PM

I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.

KYC for 50 freaking bucks? Nothing wrong with it? Nonsense. There's plenty wrong with it. Only hardcore fans of the site would want to continue playing where they request KYC for such small amounts to be frank.

You are part of the minority who have no issues providing KYC regardless of whatever the reason is.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 11, 2023, 02:08:18 AM

Slot machine games, especially to get the jackpot, don't need any strategy but just need luck, that's why gamblers will feel happy if they get lucky so they will continue to play slot games, I'm not a slot lover, but it seems like there are indeed many gamblers who like this game in casinos. because people expect luck more than discovering a strategy to gamble in casinos and win every game.

I know every possible jackpot in some casinos has been set by the system or the dealer for that why I don't really like this slot game even though there are lots of gamblers who play slot games, for example my friend yesterday won $ 100 from the jackpot slot he was very happy even though he previously losing $ 1000 at least winning once has been fun Wink

I agree that it would be pretty difficult to find a strategy that works, I mean you just spin it and the result is there, what kind of strategy could you do that would make you richer? I think it will not be possible and all we need to care of in that case would be making a profit based on luck. Slots are fun, there are layers and there are chances and it's just overall something that is very entertaining to play because of how much fun it is.

Money should not be the first aim, I understand the desire to make money, but if you are going to gamble anyway then it would be smart to gamble on slots so that you would at least have some fun while doing it, because in the end you are going to lose your money if you keep doing it for long enough time.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on July 11, 2023, 02:51:41 PM

Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 11, 2023, 02:26:37 PM

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That's why, I most the time on casinos with higher limit withdraw without KYC.

I already withdraw a few some casino like "Duelbits" and have experienced withdrawing 3,500$ they're not requested me KYC. Stake my high withdraw 8000-9000$, and being processed without KYC.

I'm not saying they're free KYC, but they are could be have higher limit withdraw without KYC and depends your activity/factor (Waggering, Deposit, type game you're playing). I also thinking, they have group/support/CM on Local, why stake not using verification like these by their local-team to verified document Level 3/4.

I got asked to do KYC at Duelbits for a withdrawal of 50$ after some issues I had when participating in promotions and this happened quite a few times on other casinos also when I tried to withdraw relative small amounts. Nothing wrong with it, as according to the terms they can always ask KYC and this is really the trend nowadays.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on July 11, 2023, 02:26:37 PM

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That's why, I most the time on casinos with higher limit withdraw without KYC.

I already withdraw a few some casino like "Duelbits" and have experienced withdrawing 3,500$ they're not requested me KYC. Stake my high withdraw 8000-9000$, and being processed without KYC.

I'm not saying they're free KYC, but they are could be have higher limit withdraw without KYC and depends your activity/factor (Waggering, Deposit, type game you're playing). I also thinking, they have group/support/CM on Local, why stake not using verification like these by their local-team to verified document Level 3/4.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on July 11, 2023, 01:43:07 PM

Meanwhile, the document (local) like water bill & other are using local language because is being used 98% are only for our country.

A user of Stake is trying to complete the level 3 KYC verification since last 4 months: Impossible KYC Requirements - Stake.com - Withholding $6000 USD.

The user is a resident of Thailand, and he had submitted electricity bill documents which were in Thai language. Stake team has rejected the documents. Even they didn't accept his documents which were in English. The submitted documents need to be in 'Latin international format' as Stake.com accepts this format only. Utility bills are in local language in most of the Asian countries. So, the level 3 and level 4 verification will be complicated for a lot of gamblers who live in Asia.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on July 11, 2023, 12:18:51 PM

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That's really shit.

They don't know, the document with an "English" are most the time is "ID". Like a Passport or Driving ID, because we can use it as an "International Document" on other countries.

Meanwhile, the document (local) like water bill & other are using local language because is being used 98% are only for our country.

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Quote from: maydna on July 11, 2023, 06:32:27 AM

Quote from: o48o on July 10, 2023, 05:04:43 PM

I haven't encountered them either, maybe it's because i don't play that often. Currently once a week with biggest bets i can afford. But then again it would be weird if everyone would saw them, casinos would end up getting broke for giving huge jackpots to every other player. Waiting for jackpots is like a form of white whale to me. I am sort of obsessed even though i understand i might never get the biggest one. I would need to be a very lucky man. But that's why i am playing, i feel lucky.

You may get lucky one day. You have to keep playing responsibly so that your losses won't be big and you can still enjoy gambling. Perhaps, it will still take some time because no one knows when we can get that luck. We can only keep playing while continuing to hope, and as long as we are always in good self-control, there is nothing to worry about because we will not exceed the boundaries we have set. But don't get obsessed with winning because it's not easy. We must be careful in spending money to gamble to avoid big losses.

I know, that's one of the reasons i keep playing. That and the fact i have won decent amounts in the past by playing with smaller bets. And i totally have my budget in control these days. And even when i don't have problem with that i do need to manage my gambling time better. That's my next goal for more balanced life and pursue new things with the new time i have made for myself. Also my ADHD medication helps on all that and makes me less impulsive.

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