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I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.

There may be less variance, but unless my math is off, you'll lose more betting both sides of baccarat.  Here's my math:

Lets say we're going to do 10,000 2 unit wagers on dice and 10,000 1 + 1 unit wagers on Baccarat both sides:

1.0102x dice:
98% (9,800 bets) of the time will return 2.024 units for a total of 19,835.2 units
2% (200 bets) of the time will return 0 units

Total bet: 20,000
Total won: 19,835.2
Result: -164.8

Baccarat, 1 unit on Player and 1 unit on Banker:
Player Wins 44.62% (4,462 bets) of the time will return 2 units each time: 8924 units
Tie 9.53% (953 bets) will return 2 units each time: 1906 units
Banker 45.85% (4585 bets) will return 1.95 units each time: 8940.75 units

Total bet: 20,000
Total won: 19,770.75
Result: -229.25

That's very well presented and quite interesting. now i guess the question would be, which is faster?  Wink
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I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.

There may be less variance, but unless my math is off, you'll lose more betting both sides of baccarat.  Here's my math:

Lets say we're going to do 10,000 2 unit wagers on dice and 10,000 1 + 1 unit wagers on Baccarat both sides:

1.0102x dice:
98% (9,800 bets) of the time will return 2.024 units for a total of 19,835.2 units
2% (200 bets) of the time will return 0 units

Total bet: 20,000
Total won: 19,835.2
Result: -164.8

Baccarat, 1 unit on Player and 1 unit on Banker:
Player Wins 44.62% (4,462 bets) of the time will return 2 units each time: 8924 units
Tie 9.53% (953 bets) will return 2 units each time: 1906 units
Banker 45.85% (4585 bets) will return 1.95 units each time: 8940.75 units

Total bet: 20,000
Total won: 19,770.75
Result: -229.25
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People seriously consider betting 1mil on dice to maybe win 250000$ in the race? Doubt it. When I play dice as soon as I raise the stakes I lose within the next 5-10 "throws" (with 98% win chance). Imagine betting 1mil.
That's the fact, no one will intend to spend such a big amount on dice for the sake of increasing the wager. As in the post, even with 98% win chance one easily losses this fund, and I kept watching the games played by MalteseFalcon. He has been playing Baccarat continuously while reaching the first position. By the time he was betting with the amount of around $27000 on a single bet.

I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.
They could have done it playing any game ever, but that is not the point, people are questioning if he is legit gambler or if Stake actually screwed them over for the win. I believe they didn't, stake is rich enough that they could give 1 million dollars as a giveaway and they could make some money with it. That is the type of thing that I believe could happen but not on Stake, they are just way too big to do something like this if you ask me.

This is why I believe this was all just a thought about someone who couldn't comprehend that someone would wager 80 million dollars. I am not saying that they didn't wager for the win, they probably did, but they didn't care if it was for 250k or if it was 5 bucks, all they cared was winning because they already have enough money, someone who can wager 80 million dollars wouldn't care about 250k neither.
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Isn't it better to do it on roulette since hitting a tie on baccarat is more likely to happen compared to hitting a zero on roulette.
That's what he means. If you want to increase your wager, you want to bet as often as possible on a likely outcome, with a low house edge.

Roulette HE>Baccarat HE> Dice HE.
Roulette have 2.7% house edge at stake. So, it would never be a good idea to play Roulette for making wager in the long term. Baccarat HE is slightly higher than Dice game. That's why I prefer Dice game for making wager. If anyone really looking for a safer game for making wager then I will suggest Blackjack. It has only 0.57% HE at stake. But Blackjack don't have auto betting feature, as a result it won't be a faster way of making wager like Dice, Baccarat and other games.
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I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.

It's commonly known Baccarat has the lowest house edge in a casino, I think. But no, you still can't compare to dice:)

Lowest possible Baccarat house edge WITHOUT commission is 1.01.

Dice is 1%.

Isn't it better to do it on roulette since hitting a tie on baccarat is more likely to happen compared to hitting a zero on roulette.

That's what he means. If you want to increase your wager, you want to bet as often as possible on a likely outcome, with a low house edge.

Roulette HE>Baccarat HE> Dice HE.
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I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.
Isn't it better to do it on roulette since hitting a tie on baccarat is more likely to happen compared to hitting a zero on roulette.

I remember watching one of eddie's stream a while back, once the race is about to end within a minute or two he'd go for plinko since that's one of the games where you can do burst betting.
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager

For dice the max bet is 100BTC (~$5.8 million).

So the fastest $80m could be done at 1 bet per second is ~14 seconds.



Yes I know that, unfortunately there is no 'MalteseFalcon' name on the big win list in the Dice game meaning he doesn't play Dice
No one can be sure whether he is real or not, let it be a mystery and MEGARACE history records Cheesy

There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.

People seriously consider betting 1mil on dice to maybe win 250000$ in the race? Doubt it. When I play dice as soon as I raise the stakes I lose within the next 5-10 "throws" (with 98% win chance). Imagine betting 1mil.
That's the fact, no one will intend to spend such a big amount on dice for the sake of increasing the wager. As in the post, even with 98% win chance one easily losses this fund, and I kept watching the games played by MalteseFalcon. He has been playing Baccarat continuously while reaching the first position. By the time he was betting with the amount of around $27000 on a single bet.

I dont think its as commonly known, but Baccarat is a safer and faster way to increase your wager. Placing a bet only on Player and House will result in a draw a large majority of the time and funds lost are significantly lower than the 1.0102 dice strat.
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager

For dice the max bet is 100BTC (~$5.8 million).

So the fastest $80m could be done at 1 bet per second is ~14 seconds.



Yes I know that, unfortunately there is no 'MalteseFalcon' name on the big win list in the Dice game meaning he doesn't play Dice
No one can be sure whether he is real or not, let it be a mystery and MEGARACE history records Cheesy

There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.

People seriously consider betting 1mil on dice to maybe win 250000$ in the race? Doubt it. When I play dice as soon as I raise the stakes I lose within the next 5-10 "throws" (with 98% win chance). Imagine betting 1mil.
That's the fact, no one will intend to spend such a big amount on dice for the sake of increasing the wager. As in the post, even with 98% win chance one easily losses this fund, and I kept watching the games played by MalteseFalcon. He has been playing Baccarat continuously while reaching the first position. By the time he was betting with the amount of around $27000 on a single bet.
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There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.

People seriously consider betting 1mil on dice to maybe win 250000$ in the race? Doubt it. When I play dice as soon as I raise the stakes I lose within the next 5-10 "throws" (with 98% win chance). Imagine betting 1mil.

That is just an example for the above speculation of the player who wagered $80 million in the race.
Speculation came because some people did not see his name till few days before the race ended so some people started to say that this player wagered $80 million overnight.

It only took a $300k bet to put his name on the big wins list as I can see 2 users with payout under $300k is ranked 2nd and 3rd
That's my reason why I'm not sure he plays Dice. Honestly, I wonder what game is being played, maybe I can imitate it to boost my rank.

What makes a bet get listed on that big wins list is not the bet amount, but the payout amount.
$300k bet but if someone did it with 1.1x wont make him on the list, that's why betting 1 million wont make someone be on the list if the payout is under the top 3 big win.
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There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.

It only took a $300k bet to put his name on the big wins list as I can see 2 users with payout under $300k is ranked 2nd and 3rd
That's my reason why I'm not sure he plays Dice. Honestly, I wonder what game is being played, maybe I can imitate it to boost my rank.
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager

For dice the max bet is 100BTC (~$5.8 million).

So the fastest $80m could be done at 1 bet per second is ~14 seconds.



Yes I know that, unfortunately there is no 'MalteseFalcon' name on the big win list in the Dice game meaning he doesn't play Dice
No one can be sure whether he is real or not, let it be a mystery and MEGARACE history records Cheesy

There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.

People seriously consider betting 1mil on dice to maybe win 250000$ in the race? Doubt it. When I play dice as soon as I raise the stakes I lose within the next 5-10 "throws" (with 98% win chance). Imagine betting 1mil.
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager

For dice the max bet is 100BTC (~$5.8 million).

So the fastest $80m could be done at 1 bet per second is ~14 seconds.



Yes I know that, unfortunately there is no 'MalteseFalcon' name on the big win list in the Dice game meaning he doesn't play Dice
No one can be sure whether he is real or not, let it be a mystery and MEGARACE history records Cheesy

There is no his name under the Big Win list in the dice game does not mean that he did not play game.
There are only 3 big wins on the list, he can be on 4th 5th and so on.
No one knows what game did he play, he may play dice by betting few hundred thousands dollar per bet with the highest win chance.
Lets say he bet $1 million with 1.02-1.1x payout, the profit is only $20k-100k so it wont be on the top 3 list.
Overall you cant say that he does not play dice game at all just because his name is not on the top big win list.
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After watching the megarace last weekend the major wins were on their new slot game Stake millions.
Seemed like fun and from what I remember it was a game made specifically for them from one of the gaming partners.
Kind of unique and will give it a shot once I get a balance on the site again.
Just about 1.45% away from platinum II, this is where most of the balance goes trying to get to this vip rank.
It seems like this is where Stake gives you a dedicated VIP host from now on. From what I recall the owner saying on the livestream a couple of days ago regarding this change suddenly.
This has changed from being a gold vip member when I first started using the site over 2 years ago back at the beginning of 2019.
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Incredible to see people wagering THAT much on dice, even more incredible to see it being spent on slots with 3.5x the house edge, phew! But I guess he must have tried to play big stakes to win slots jackpot. In any case, full credit to the player, Stake must be very happy to have such high rollers playing there. I don't think I'll ever in my lifetime wager even 10% of that in one contest.
Same here. Wagering millions of dollars is no joke. Some of these whales are usually interested in long-term profits which is why they don't usually focus on short-term losses or profits based on what I observed.

Even though slots has a high house edge when compared to games like blackjack which have a low house edge, these high rollers still prefer primarily for the fun factor.

Yeah, even at current "huge" prices, 1 million is still 20 BTC wager. On a very fine day I may be able to get 0.5 BTC if I take a lot of risks with a significant deposit. More likely than not I'd lose a lot more if I tried to compete. Which is why I never compete in wager contests in the first place.

But yeah, it's all about fun for them and hey, if I had 20 BTC lying around I'd definitely splash out on slots the bigger the JP the better!
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After completing the 1 Million dollars wagering contest successfully, stake have started another new giveaway from today. This is like weekly raffle where user will receive tickets by doing wager. There will be 20 winners at every week and each of them will receive $5k in btc. Check more details here: Stake's Weekly $100,000 Giveaway

Obviously big whales will have the maximum chance to win prizes from the raffles, but it is fully luck based. So, anyone may see the dream to win prize from it. Having a single ticket could bring the prize as well.
Basically, who gets more tickets while 1 ticket equals $1000 wagered so obviously there will be whales who will have a big chance and I think this is how it gets from the tickets we generate.
If on the basis of luck it doesn't hurt to try, hopefully, there is a part in it, so this contest will only run one week, and not much more is expected.

IMO, the little gambler will have a hard time seeing what to get with the ticket.
Here also luck can get win to the gamblers. With duelbits or Roobet came across similar contest. In that I saw few winners among the top list with very few tickets. Some even got six tickets. Maybe as that here in Stake we can expect some lucky gamblers. Hope I'll be one among the lucky, so this week somehow I need to wager $1000 to get a ticket and win a prize by the weekend.
So, if you haven't reached $1000 wagered then you won't be able to take part in this giveaway contest so wagered should be $1000 as much as possible to be able to participate in this contest.
If there are 6 tickets entered in the list of winners, it means that they are destined so strong with definite luck, therefore there is no harm in trying.
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager

For dice the max bet is 100BTC (~$5.8 million).

So the fastest $80m could be done at 1 bet per second is ~14 seconds.



Yes I know that, unfortunately there is no 'MalteseFalcon' name on the big win list in the Dice game meaning he doesn't play Dice
No one can be sure whether he is real or not, let it be a mystery and MEGARACE history records Cheesy
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if a player came up with an $ 80m wager a day this might be a little questionable. You can calculate the max bet in each game and combine it with a $ 80 million wager
I see it took 2 weeks for the top 10 players to increase their wager to $10-30 million.
You can believe in whatever you want, that is the beauty of freedom of speech, you can say whatever you want and your belief is not something anyone can argue as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. However simple math shows that if you are using a both, dealing with max bet possible, it would take less than an hour to reach 80 million dollars, there are now gambling bots that can wager much much faster than anyone else, and that allows people to reach to very high level places.

I am not saying that it is guaranteed that Stake didn't cheat, I can't prove that neither, but just because someone gambled 80 million dollars on one day doesn't automatically mean that is a cheat neither, that is not good enough argument for stake to be a scammer website after nearly 6 years of operations (with primedice) just so they do not have to give this amount of money.
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