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Quote from: Galley on December 23, 2020, 06:07:42 AM

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 23, 2020, 04:10:38 AM

I like Blackjack and I have a decent amount of experience with it on Stake. I consider Blackjack as one of those games that can actually help overcome the house edge in the long term as long as you use optimal strategy as pointed out here.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

It looks like you are using Martingale strategy here which is way too risky since I have encountered pretty long loss streaks while playing Blackjack on many occasions on Stake and other sites.

I liked blackjack because apart from its lowest house edge among the provably fair games I learned it easily even when it was basic when I first tried to play it. But I know I still have some unknowns just like the reference you shared discussing other rules, basic and text strategy. It just seems hard to remember. Thanks to that, I didn't know there was such a thing I don't know those yet because I only do hit and stand. I do not use Split or Double. I also do not take insurance. I only use soft 17 like most dealers.

You are right that the use of martingale is dangerous because I have failed several times to use it. But I can't do anything because this is my only strategy now that sometimes and even works more often.

Using the martingale strategy is dangerous with every game because nobody has an infinite bankroll and over a long playing streak every outcome is possible. I have seen people lucky enough to get away with a huge profit after a few lucky bets and other slowly losing the whole bankroll over a million bets. Everything is all about luck and chances Wink

A lot depends on luck. There were times when you play for a long time at a small rate, and nothing can be raised. It would seem that everything is already and then you bet at random to the maximum, as much as possible. And here she is fortune. Several times I have succeeded. The main thing at such moments is to stop in time.

Everything is about luck, no matter how hard you try, you can never outrun the casino edge. Of course there are a few lucky players who will "exploit" the system and beat the house: only time I saw that was by mistake, when people miss what they want to bet and end up being lucky.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 24, 2020, 04:44:20 AM

"Stake reserves the right to perform additional KYC/AML checks as a condition of receiving prize." So they will check for multi accounts and they will require KYC/AML checks....

So it will be difficult to have 50 different ID's and proof of address ...etc.. etc. Roll Eyes

In any way, most of the users will fail the KYC/AML requirements.. because a lot of them are playing from "restricted" countries via VPN's. Roll Eyes

Scammers these days know how to bypass these issues by making their accounts seem trustworthy since they have a ton of experience with these things which is why KYC won't be enough in this scenario in my opinion. They need to implement additional rules in these cases to deter scammers.

Scammers are prepared for this and might they used a fake id which looks legitimate so that they can successfully cheat on the casino they want to attack. And for sure additional rules will be hard to take them especially if the frauds knows how to manipulate things especially we have available VPN's around which they can use a different IP's. I believe a combination of fake id and vpn will give a hard time for a casino to spot a fraudulent activities .

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 24, 2020, 04:44:20 AM

"Stake reserves the right to perform additional KYC/AML checks as a condition of receiving prize." So they will check for multi accounts and they will require KYC/AML checks....

So it will be difficult to have 50 different ID's and proof of address ...etc.. etc. Roll Eyes

In any way, most of the users will fail the KYC/AML requirements.. because a lot of them are playing from "restricted" countries via VPN's. Roll Eyes

They will only ask for KYC only if they find something suspicious related to the account which is generally the case with all casino sites out there. What if they don't find anything suspicious related to the account?

Scammers these days know how to bypass these issues by making their accounts seem trustworthy since they have a ton of experience with these things which is why KYC won't be enough in this scenario in my opinion. They need to implement additional rules in these cases to deter scammers.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on December 24, 2020, 06:16:45 AM

I'm impressed with the continuous stream of small bonuses via reload, boost, and Christmas bonus! OMG, users can play every day for free!
So much benefit as a VIP member, but to rank up is quite costly. Anyway, how much $ wagers to become a platinum member?

If you are starting from zero, you need to wager $250,000 to reach platinum 1. It costs a lot of money indeed, so it is not recommended to play/wager just for levelling up. Play as what we used to play only and let the account ranked up naturally but ofc you can do as you wish. Perhaps you have good strategy to wager more but small chance to lose big. Below is the complete requirements for each level:

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Diamond: $25,000,000

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Id like to come in here and just say thanks to the staff of stake!
Thanks for the continous bonusses and reloads you haven been giving out to us players.

Very appreciated!

Have a merry christmas and stay healthy!

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Quote from: babygun on December 23, 2020, 06:54:32 AM

That were the good old days Grin

. I remember I got once a tip of 0.001 BTC (on another site) and back than it was worth 4$ and I was already excited Grin

I think to be eligible for rain, you need to wager 1000$, they raised the minimum just to avoid abusers.

That 10 000$ random draw is also nice. No requirements what so ever to participate!

Yea, and the tip still on going until now. I've seen whales tipped lot on chat (but rarely seen 0.01 btc). Wagered $1000 is too much i think, it's just like you want to join in wagering contest Wink

Quote from: RealMalatesta on December 24, 2020, 01:23:32 AM

The difference between back in the day and today is not only the whales but also the understanding of bitcoin and how people see it. Back in the early days of primedice we had a lot of different type of people in bitcoin, we mostly got in because we wanted to stay away from banks and want to build something totally different. That was the whole idea of bitcoin as well, and that is what we were in love with.

Obviously price of it went high, as much as 100-200 dollars but even at that point thinking that was around the max, we didn't really care about trading and profiting from it all that much, maybe some minor group but the majority was there because we wanted decentralization.

At that point it was easier for people to share, they were sending people money left and right because it wasn't "money" they were sending, it was actually propaganda for bitcoin, like "come here and leave those banks behind" type of marketing on decentralization for us, hence sharing was good. Nowadays we all know that is not the case anymore Cheesy

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The main thing which make difference is about bitcoin price. Lot of people were don't like HOLD bitcoin for long time and as soon as they win something, they cashed out immediatelly or tipped to everyone on chat.

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I'm impressed with the continuous stream of small bonuses via reload, boost, and Christmas bonus! OMG, users can play every day for free!
So much benefit as a VIP member, but to rank up is quite costly. Anyway, how much $ wagers to become a platinum member?

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Quote from: xandry on December 23, 2020, 08:04:40 AM

Quote from: Symphonized on December 22, 2020, 06:48:27 PM

On Christmas Day, we'll be dropping $1,000 in 10 random player accounts to help us celebrate the holiday season!

Will you get lucky? More information: https://promotions.stake.com/10k-random-draw/

So anyone who just registering 50 accounts will have 50 times more chance of winning? You just want to increase the number of registrations on Stake? It is necessary to have at least minimum requirements against deception.

Well.. they said they wanted to do something different this year..... so there you have it... a no requirement or restrictions free random giveaway. If you looked closely, you would notice one of the rules... "Stake reserves the right to perform additional KYC/AML checks as a condition of receiving prize." So they will check for multi accounts and they will require KYC/AML checks....

So it will be difficult to have 50 different ID's and proof of address ...etc.. etc. Roll Eyes

In any way, most of the users will fail the KYC/AML requirements.. because a lot of them are playing from "restricted" countries via VPN's. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: janggernaut on December 22, 2020, 07:59:49 AM

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I really don’t understand their logic, because if they didn’t have money then why wager in the first place?.

Because they think they could earn more than they've wagered. Whales, or someone who won a lot or a high roller can easily tip or give rain to those who "seems" supported them. Back then i saw whales tip 0.001 btc - 0.01 btc to each person who stay on chat during their huge bets. Wagering $100 is nothing if you can earn much or more than that

The difference between back in the day and today is not only the whales but also the understanding of bitcoin and how people see it. Back in the early days of primedice we had a lot of different type of people in bitcoin, we mostly got in because we wanted to stay away from banks and want to build something totally different. That was the whole idea of bitcoin as well, and that is what we were in love with.

Obviously price of it went high, as much as 100-200 dollars but even at that point thinking that was around the max, we didn't really care about trading and profiting from it all that much, maybe some minor group but the majority was there because we wanted decentralization.

At that point it was easier for people to share, they were sending people money left and right because it wasn't "money" they were sending, it was actually propaganda for bitcoin, like "come here and leave those banks behind" type of marketing on decentralization for us, hence sharing was good. Nowadays we all know that is not the case anymore Cheesy

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Quote from: maxreish on December 23, 2020, 03:04:47 AM

Very excited for that christmas day event in stake. Aside from 100 players who will gonna be lucky with 1k usd, there would be 10 surprise players that can be chosen even without tickets. I can see many surprising events, bonuses are coming. Like these speed 24 hour/ 24 bonus drops today every hour.

These players are indeed too fast to claim it in just seconds. With different wagered requirements the highest I saw was 25k usd wagered for the last month. But overall, stake make a great job giving out free money as bonuses to their players.

Free money will always causes you to lose money, it is not something people would actually care all around every single second, it will be at peak levels whenever people end up seeing this type of deals, such as big rains for example. When you have higher and higher minimums, that doesn't mean that people will stop bothering others, or not even stop people from going to website, it is just a thing that will make sure that they do not wager and that is not even helping the website neither because they are making sure beggars focus on other things than wagering.

When you allow a very very small minimum wagering you give those poor people something to do, but when you remove that, those poor people do not have anything else they can do but to beg for money. This is why I believe it is quite obvious that people will continue to ask for handouts on every website.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 23, 2020, 08:49:01 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2020, 07:17:23 AM

Nothing is better, strategy does not works on both short and long terms. The one which works is luck, nothing else, playing all in (yolo) cant be better than other strategies if your luck does not smile at you.

Every gambler is aware of luck and its importance in gambling, but we were discussing strategies here which you clearly failed to understand since the luck factor is obvious.

Also, majority of the gamblers can attest to the fact that yolo gambling strategy is better than every strategy out there since it provides you the ability to overcome the house edge in the short term.

This strategy is very much needed in gambling in my opinion because that is the most important thing where you can find skills in our abilities, yeah, even though this is all a factor of luck, but in gambling, don't just play it, we must know how to get a good chance if luck isn't there

If Yolo gambling is better to be strategized then I think it needs to be improved in strategies out there are still less capable but everyone is always different in gambling but for me still that strategy is really needed to add our skills in gambling and this will of course be. get better when playing plain.

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Quote from: Text on December 23, 2020, 05:17:40 AM

I liked blackjack because apart from its lowest house edge among the provably fair games I learned it easily even when it was basic when I first tried to play it. But I know I still have some unknowns just like the reference you shared discussing other rules, basic and text strategy. It just seems hard to remember. Thanks to that, I didn't know there was such a thing I don't know those yet because I only do hit and stand. I do not use Split or Double. I also do not take insurance. I only use soft 17 like most dealers.

You are right that the use of martingale is dangerous because I have failed several times to use it. But I can't do anything because this is my only strategy now that sometimes and even works more often.

Yes,,, me too. BJ has always been the prime candidate because if you follow strategy faithfully and take advantage of double down offers, extra side bets etc, lowest house edge gives you good wagering amounts. Definitely not the game for martingale though,,, you maybe at most places from smallest to biggest bet is around 10x losing streak max.

Play BJ long enough and this is sooo easy to hit;)

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 23, 2020, 07:17:23 AM

Nothing is better, strategy does not works on both short and long terms. The one which works is luck, nothing else, playing all in (yolo) cant be better than other strategies if your luck does not smile at you.

Every gambler is aware of luck and its importance in gambling, but we were discussing strategies here which you clearly failed to understand since the luck factor is obvious.

Also, majority of the gamblers can attest to the fact that yolo gambling strategy is better than every strategy out there since it provides you the ability to overcome the house edge in the short term.

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Quote from: xandry on December 23, 2020, 08:04:40 AM

Quote from: Symphonized on December 22, 2020, 06:48:27 PM

On Christmas Day, we'll be dropping $1,000 in 10 random player accounts to help us celebrate the holiday season!

Will you get lucky? More information: https://promotions.stake.com/10k-random-draw/

So anyone who just registering 50 accounts will have 50 times more chance of winning? You just want to increase the number of registrations on Stake? It is necessary to have at least minimum requirements against deception.

Good point, it is obvious that there will be some people (abusers/cheaters) who are trying to create multiple accounts for this promo only.
The main idea for this promo is basically great to give something for anyone without any restrictions but it wont be good if there are many people create multiple accounts for this promo.
On the other side, I do believe Stake is aware about this possibility so I hope Stake can minimize it by getting those multiple accounts banned/blocked before the draw.

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Quote from: Symphonized on December 22, 2020, 06:48:27 PM

On Christmas Day, we'll be dropping $1,000 in 10 random player accounts to help us celebrate the holiday season!

Will you get lucky? More information: https://promotions.stake.com/10k-random-draw/

So anyone who just registering 50 accounts will have 50 times more chance of winning? You just want to increase the number of registrations on Stake? It is necessary to have at least minimum requirements against deception.

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Quote from: Haunebu on December 23, 2020, 07:12:56 AM

Quote from: Text on December 23, 2020, 05:17:40 AM

You are right that the use of martingale is dangerous because I have failed several times to use it. But I can't do anything because this is my only strategy now that sometimes and even works more often.

Martingale does work sometimes in any game, but I advise going all in which has been proven to be a better strategy in both the short term and long term.

If you are primarily looking for fun and don't care too much about losses, go with Martingale. If you are focused on making money, going all in with every bet is the way to go which actually beats the house edge sometimes.

Nothing is better, strategy does not works on both short and long terms. The one which works is luck, nothing else, playing all in (yolo) cant be better than other strategies if your luck does not smile at you. OK no need to discuss it further, it is not the right thread to discuss general gambling strategy.

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Quote from: Text on December 23, 2020, 05:17:40 AM

You are right that the use of martingale is dangerous because I have failed several times to use it. But I can't do anything because this is my only strategy now that sometimes and even works more often.

Martingale does work sometimes in any game, but I advise going all in which has been proven to be a better strategy in both the short term and long term.

If you are primarily looking for fun and don't care too much about losses, go with Martingale. If you are focused on making money, going all in with every bet is the way to go which actually beats the house edge sometimes.

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Quote from: janggernaut on December 22, 2020, 07:59:49 AM

Quote from: Juggy777 on December 22, 2020, 05:45:53 AM

I really don’t understand their logic, because if they didn’t have money then why wager in the first place?.

Because they think they could earn more than they've wagered. Whales, or someone who won a lot or a high roller can easily tip or give rain to those who "seems" supported them. Back then i saw whales tip 0.001 btc - 0.01 btc to each person who stay on chat during their huge bets. Wagering $100 is nothing if you can earn much or more than that

That were the good old days Grin

. I remember I got once a tip of 0.001 BTC (on another site) and back than it was worth 4$ and I was already excited Grin

I think to be eligible for rain, you need to wager 1000$, they raised the minimum just to avoid abusers.

That 10 000$ random draw is also nice. No requirements what so ever to participate!

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Quote from: acquafredda on December 23, 2020, 05:35:05 AM

Quote from: Text on December 23, 2020, 05:17:40 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on December 23, 2020, 04:10:38 AM

I like Blackjack and I have a decent amount of experience with it on Stake. I consider Blackjack as one of those games that can actually help overcome the house edge in the long term as long as you use optimal strategy as pointed out here.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/4-decks/

It looks like you are using Martingale strategy here which is way too risky since I have encountered pretty long loss streaks while playing Blackjack on many occasions on Stake and other sites.

I liked blackjack because apart from its lowest house edge among the provably fair games I learned it easily even when it was basic when I first tried to play it. But I know I still have some unknowns just like the reference you shared discussing other rules, basic and text strategy. It just seems hard to remember. Thanks to that, I didn't know there was such a thing I don't know those yet because I only do hit and stand. I do not use Split or Double. I also do not take insurance. I only use soft 17 like most dealers.

You are right that the use of martingale is dangerous because I have failed several times to use it. But I can't do anything because this is my only strategy now that sometimes and even works more often.

Using the martingale strategy is dangerous with every game because nobody has an infinite bankroll and over a long playing streak every outcome is possible. I have seen people lucky enough to get away with a huge profit after a few lucky bets and other slowly losing the whole bankroll over a million bets. Everything is all about luck and chances Wink

A lot depends on luck. There were times when you play for a long time at a small rate, and nothing can be raised. It would seem that everything is already and then you bet at random to the maximum, as much as possible. And here she is fortune. Several times I have succeeded. The main thing at such moments is to stop in time.

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