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Any information when it will available for mortal users? How do you think, few players played crash because it was not interesting, or because there are not much vip users?
There's an update today and I think the game is already available to everyone since i'm not a vip user and I could play the game.

Here's a screenshot of their multiplayer crash game.

How do you think, few players played crash because it was not interesting, or because there are not much vip users?
Imo there's only a few vip users playing the game during the beta phase because it might not be their type of game.
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The casinos most revenue however is from the 95% that gamble less than 5 figures, because there are many of those people and since they are mostly gambling with scared money, they usually are greedy and fearful and the casino makes a profit off them. Someone who bets in the 5 figure range usually has a net worth of 7 figures and they gamble without greed or fear and usually end up winning, if not they do it for fun.
The people with money who spend millions of dollars in casinos will be given a VIP status and they will give them perks and other offers and lower house edges to gamble and they will do that for compulsive gamblers who usually spent money on them and if you are a good gambler they will black list you and will never allow you to gamble in the first place buddy, there are many documented cases you can find online and if you want a particular case check the documentary on Don Johnson.
legendary
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Honestly, who plays 0.25 btc hands on blackjack? That is literally 2.5-3 thousand dollars each hand, that is a huge whale move if I have seen one, normally in real life you sit on a blackjack table and you will realize the biggest is usually 50 bucks per bet, I rarely ever see a person betting anything more than that, keep in mind this is a regular casino blackjack table, not Las Vegas big 5 star hotel with insane entertainments type of table, which means this dude is betting so much that if he cashed it out to dollars, go to Vegas and bet on blackjack he would be treated like a huge whale even there as well among all other whales. If you are attracting that type of customers to just sit at home and gamble on a website than you know you must be doing something right.

If you think that this is a big amount, then you must be wrong because there is more than just 0.25 btc play on stake. It is a big amount for us but this is just some tiny pennies for big whale so it does not really looks big for them. You should checked on their few pages back there when someone bet huge amount and got profit here. It seems that you are new to gambling industry that makes you amaze on this kind of bet  Grin
0.25 btc per hand on blackjack actually very high amount and i'm sure it was not all in bet which mean the players playing with plenty of bets use 0.25 btc for every hand and imagine if the players playing 30 times bets or more with it then i'm sure this players can be called as the whales in online gambling industry

I can make an assumption here that he is indeed a middle whale, because there is no way that I could bet 0.25 btc per games. This is too much for any normal players here. They can even bet this huge because of it is stake, I do not think that someone can bet this huge amount randomly on other sites. It must be really painful if they do not get paid. But on stake with really huge bankroll and with the same roof as primedice make this possible Grin


Its pretty much no different than any regular casino. Most of the people that go to a physical casino usually gamble a few hundred, maybe less than 5% or even 1% or so gamble in the 5 figure range.

Most people usually get paid on a Friday and blow their entire paycheck by Saturday. However the casino maybe makes $500-$1000 off those types of players. When some rich businessman gambles its usually in the 5 figure range and they usually have a special room for those betters. And it comes with huge perks whether they gamble or not. From what I heard they get a free hotel stay, free dinners and free excusions.

The casinos most revenue however is from the 95% that gamble less than 5 figures, because there are many of those people and since they are mostly gambling with scared money, they usually are greedy and fearful and the casino makes a profit off them. Someone who bets in the 5 figure range usually has a net worth of 7 figures and they gamble without greed or fear and usually end up winning, if not they do it for fun.
legendary
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Yesterday, I was lurking for some time to check in on the new game and saw a few users playing crash. Unfortunately it was only available for vip users.

Is it the multiplayer version or it's like chartbet?



Any information when it will available for mortal users? How do you think, few players played crash because it was not interesting, or because there are not much vip users?

actually , there was some information in the topic if you read a dozen or so posts before
crash is going to be a multiplayer version of the chartbet game
i.e. the round will start/end for all of the players simultaneously and there won't be an individual provably fair but a global one  (just for this game)
and everything else is the good old chartbet , with some minor changes
VIPs are given the early beta test privileges that is why you can see the bets take place
legendary
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We are talking about blackjack, yeah there have been a lot more betting in dice or any other game and they have been over 0.25 for sure but when it comes to blackjack having a 0.25 betting hand is a lot, maybe there are people who do more as well but I have not seen anyone risk that much in a blackjack game.

More over the topic was having thousands upon thousands dollars putting into one single blackjack hand and how it compared to casinos in Las Vegas or Monaco and what not and I can really testify that it is more than those places depending on the table. Obviously, there are whales betting more in those places as well but the regulars and people there to only have a bit of fun do not bet that much PER HAND let alone total. That is why stake is literally as big as a Las Vegas casino in my point of view.
legendary
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Honestly, who plays 0.25 btc hands on blackjack? That is literally 2.5-3 thousand dollars each hand, that is a huge whale move if I have seen one, normally in real life you sit on a blackjack table and you will realize the biggest is usually 50 bucks per bet, I rarely ever see a person betting anything more than that, keep in mind this is a regular casino blackjack table, not Las Vegas big 5 star hotel with insane entertainments type of table, which means this dude is betting so much that if he cashed it out to dollars, go to Vegas and bet on blackjack he would be treated like a huge whale even there as well among all other whales. If you are attracting that type of customers to just sit at home and gamble on a website than you know you must be doing something right.

If you think that this is a big amount, then you must be wrong because there is more than just 0.25 btc play on stake. It is a big amount for us but this is just some tiny pennies for big whale so it does not really looks big for them. You should checked on their few pages back there when someone bet huge amount and got profit here. It seems that you are new to gambling industry that makes you amaze on this kind of bet  Grin
0.25 btc per hand on blackjack actually very high amount and i'm sure it was not all in bet which mean the players playing with plenty of bets use 0.25 btc for every hand and imagine if the players playing 30 times bets or more with it then i'm sure this players can be called as the whales in online gambling industry

I can make an assumption here that he is indeed a middle whale, because there is no way that I could bet 0.25 btc per games. This is too much for any normal players here. They can even bet this huge because of it is stake, I do not think that someone can bet this huge amount randomly on other sites. It must be really painful if they do not get paid. But on stake with really huge bankroll and with the same roof as primedice make this possible Grin
legendary
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Yesterday, I was lurking for some time to check in on the new game and saw a few users playing crash. Unfortunately it was only available for vip users.

Is it the multiplayer version or it's like chartbet?



Any information when it will available for mortal users? How do you think, few players played crash because it was not interesting, or because there are not much vip users?
legendary
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Yesterday, I was lurking for some time to check in on the new game and saw a few users playing crash. Unfortunately it was only available for vip users.

Is it the multiplayer version or it's like chartbet?



I'm not quite sure about the type of the new crash game, I'm VIP user but I did not take the chance to try the crash game when it was being offered through telegram vip channel. I missed to announcement and I thought that I was too late to send them message if I wanted to try the crash game. As I remember symphonized has ever said that there will be multiplayer feature, probably there will be two options on the game (multiplayer and individual type) as he said it as "feature". Lets just wait when it is officially released.
legendary
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Shuffle.com
Yesterday, I was lurking for some time to check in on the new game and saw a few users playing crash. Unfortunately it was only available for vip users.

Is it the multiplayer version or it's like chartbet?

legendary
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Honestly, who plays 0.25 btc hands on blackjack? That is literally 2.5-3 thousand dollars each hand, that is a huge whale move if I have seen one, normally in real life you sit on a blackjack table and you will realize the biggest is usually 50 bucks per bet, I rarely ever see a person betting anything more than that, keep in mind this is a regular casino blackjack table, not Las Vegas big 5 star hotel with insane entertainments type of table, which means this dude is betting so much that if he cashed it out to dollars, go to Vegas and bet on blackjack he would be treated like a huge whale even there as well among all other whales. If you are attracting that type of customers to just sit at home and gamble on a website than you know you must be doing something right.

If you think that this is a big amount, then you must be wrong because there is more than just 0.25 btc play on stake. It is a big amount for us but this is just some tiny pennies for big whale so it does not really looks big for them. You should checked on their few pages back there when someone bet huge amount and got profit here. It seems that you are new to gambling industry that makes you amaze on this kind of bet  Grin
legendary
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I think the whole point is, there are plenty of people who think Ripple and XRP is a scam and their coin has nothing to do with the company itself and just because the company gets more deals and contracts doesn't mean the coin holders will make more money because it is not like shareholder or dividend type of deal, so xrp will be the same like it was after a deal whereas it is portrayed as when ripple has a new deal the price should go up.

It is a highly centralized and controlled coin that mostly owned by one company and can change whatever they feel like changing in the coin and that is why people dislike it. That is why it should never be in the same sentence as stake. However, I understand your position as well since XRP is top 3 in coins list for market cap and that makes it look legit.
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Not a fan of alts for gambling either. It WAS fun and seemed like a good idea at one time, now we all need to define digital money a lot better.


If you go to many of the gambling sites out there, people actually do place bets with coins other than Bitcoin. And right now its fairly cheap to send Bitcoin transactions, in the last 24 hours you could of sent a transaction with 1 sat/byte so basically a typical transaction could be as low as 250 sats if its 1 input and 2 outputs which is about 3 cents. However people still are using alts.

Gambling sites are realizing this and this is why they are adding alts, not because the bitcoin network is expensive to transact but because there are people out there that own coins other than Bitcoin.

So say there are 2 gambling sites, both featuring dice and say that one accepts Ripple and the other doesn't. Some gambler has a stack of XRP and doesn't own any Bitcoin, which site do you think they would deposit to? This way Stake would gain a customer.

This is the customers that they are targetting for. Many people sold their BTC since it quadruppled since the beginning of the year but many are still holding alts which didn't move by much.



business is business and as much as some of the owners like or dislike certain alts
if they see an open market that they are missing out on , they will not hesitate and add that coin
I understand and share actmyname's sentiment towards XRP , it is not even a proper crypto in my books
but , unfortunately , in this world money rule the world and if something is profitable and legal - it is going to be taken advantage of
in this case XRP  happened to be one of the most deposited coins ( according to the Stake's representative in this thread ) , so I guess it was a good move from the business point of view

Almost willing to bet they dont keep XRP as an option...almost Smiley

The potential earnings on XRP compared to bitcoin appear SO low.

Someone betting 1XRP last week was betting $0.39, which is a $0.29 bet today.

Compared to 0.0001 BTC last week was betting $1.24, which is now $0.95 today.

Stake is the one gambling XRP stores value and that XRP/DOGE customers are equal value to a bitcoin gambling customer. It really isn't likely at all that businesses take this approach long term because these coins are just for traders to swap and ditch for quick profits on their race to the bottom. The cost to cater to more coins and customers who have random coins will take away from other things some of these sites could be doing to make the gambling experience better.

We shall see though, it's all gambling at this point.
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Although I don't use this service very often, I would like to say that this team is very hardworking and constantly developing something new for its users. In addition, they offer extra gaming opportunities to their users through various campaigns such as bonuses and investment bonuses that are distributed at certain times. On the other hand, this service, which is among the pioneers of the sector, can also be used comfortably as it has proven itself.

You should really play here, first thing is they will sometimes offer some bonus coin for you yo test the site. Although it is not that much but still it is better than claiming faucet. And I even can make a 20x payout from this. Second thing, they always give some oppoetunities to earn more coin by giving some event, so it is worth to play here. Try to make account then you will know the benefits
Faucets are exactly for that reason to begin with, for people who have never heard of stake (I don't know if anyone left in the crypto world that hasn't heard about stake lol) to come here and check it out, starting a new account is super simple and you just get some money from the faucet and gamble, if you have fun then you can deposit more and actually gamble, if you don't like it (doubt it) then you can just leave.

Faucet gives the people that type of advantage to check out the casino, its small enough that it can't be really abused by the bad people but big enough that you can test out and see if you will like it or not and decide to deposit or not. Plus if any newbie check here and all other casino related topics they will see that stake is literally the leader in every aspect ever.
legendary
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Not a fan of alts for gambling either. It WAS fun and seemed like a good idea at one time, now we all need to define digital money a lot better.


If you go to many of the gambling sites out there, people actually do place bets with coins other than Bitcoin. And right now its fairly cheap to send Bitcoin transactions, in the last 24 hours you could of sent a transaction with 1 sat/byte so basically a typical transaction could be as low as 250 sats if its 1 input and 2 outputs which is about 3 cents. However people still are using alts.

Gambling sites are realizing this and this is why they are adding alts, not because the bitcoin network is expensive to transact but because there are people out there that own coins other than Bitcoin.

So say there are 2 gambling sites, both featuring dice and say that one accepts Ripple and the other doesn't. Some gambler has a stack of XRP and doesn't own any Bitcoin, which site do you think they would deposit to? This way Stake would gain a customer.

This is the customers that they are targetting for. Many people sold their BTC since it quadruppled since the beginning of the year but many are still holding alts which didn't move by much.



business is business and as much as some of the owners like or dislike certain alts
if they see an open market that they are missing out on , they will not hesitate and add that coin
I understand and share actmyname's sentiment towards XRP , it is not even a proper crypto in my books
but , unfortunately , in this world money rule the world and if something is profitable and legal - it is going to be taken advantage of
in this case XRP  happened to be one of the most deposited coins ( according to the Stake's representative in this thread ) , so I guess it was a good move from the business point of view
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Not a fan of alts for gambling either. It WAS fun and seemed like a good idea at one time, now we all need to define digital money a lot better.


If you go to many of the gambling sites out there, people actually do place bets with coins other than Bitcoin. And right now its fairly cheap to send Bitcoin transactions, in the last 24 hours you could of sent a transaction with 1 sat/byte so basically a typical transaction could be as low as 250 sats if its 1 input and 2 outputs which is about 3 cents. However people still are using alts.

Gambling sites are realizing this and this is why they are adding alts, not because the bitcoin network is expensive to transact but because there are people out there that own coins other than Bitcoin.

So say there are 2 gambling sites, both featuring dice and say that one accepts Ripple and the other doesn't. Some gambler has a stack of XRP and doesn't own any Bitcoin, which site do you think they would deposit to? This way Stake would gain a customer.

This is the customers that they are targetting for. Many people sold their BTC since it quadruppled since the beginning of the year but many are still holding alts which didn't move by much.

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I am not a fan of Ripple or its centralized system. A platform that allows the use of it is indirectly (or directly, if you want to see it that way) increasing the adoption of the coin.
This means more usage of a coin that will end up in the palms of corruption.

We already know fiat is garbage. Why don't we know that Ripple is?

Not a fan of alts for gambling either. It WAS fun and seemed like a good idea at one time, now we all need to define digital money a lot better.

If "crypto" doesn't have a money then why would anybody buy ANYTHING involved in crypto. We believe bitcoin is that money and the altcoins drag down the value of bitcoin the longer they stink up the space and do nothing but leach peoples bitcoin.

Bag holders of Ripple probably want to dump it on gambling a lot more than they would their bitcoin....but that is the whole point. A business in the "crypto" space should WANT peoples bitcoin for goods and services. Wanting Ripple is a "questionable" business decision at best....idiotic at worst.

Stake gets credit for not being one of those "we have our own currency" gambling sites with an altcoin (how many of those do we need stealing peoples bitcoin for a useless Altcoin)

If Ripple is really for "internal bank swaps" (as it was originally sold to people as), it is probably going to be regulated at some point. The Ripple team has a coin that isn't XRP that banks actually DO use, so adding it to a gambling site seems very odd. Very very odd.

Ethereum has that fork coming up, none of these coins were originally trying to be "digital money," its just profitable for them to pretend these things are "money."

Even bitcoin is pretty useless as money...its a digital store of value at best still and we love it but the shit-coins drag it dowwwnnnn

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There are still many gamblers playing with Ripple so it is not something negative that was added to Stake Wink
All depends on personal preference as well.

The coins that are added are always asked to the community here at Bitcointalk or at our Forum.
It all depends on the scale of which you're considering.

Overall, the inclusion of Ripple means that you're allowing it to be used more... to propagate across the crypto ecosystem for a longer time. Even if you are not a fan of Ripple, that is what is happening. It's like if you allowed Bitconnect as an available coin to be used at Stake.
Yeah sure, but let's face it, Bitconnect turned out to be scam / pronzi scheme Wink
Yes... that's exactly the point I'm trying to show.

I am not a fan of Ripple or its centralized system. A platform that allows the use of it is indirectly (or directly, if you want to see it that way) increasing the adoption of the coin.
This means more usage of a coin that will end up in the palms of corruption.

We already know fiat is garbage. Why don't we know that Ripple is?

I see your point, that also makes the coin more active to everyone if they do decide to use and express their good thinkings to everyone else and so creates a chain where more people will use it and maybe it will grow in price Wink


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