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Quote from: peter0425 on December 19, 2021, 11:23:11 PM

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

Yes mate. He can address that to stake for them to assess the situation and compare it to himself. He can justify why the other user is getting this and that and while him, he's not getting any.
That's all he need to do and this sucks when you see others are going good and you think that you deserve also something that they get and rant online instead of going to the support to ask legitimately.

yeah , but the thing is that OP seems to not care mate ..

he is not even coming back here from the very moment he posted this case.

i believe that he now find the reason why he need no reason to come back here.

There are those that are giving the complaints of others and as well as their main concerns. But after posting it, they don't go back. Well, usually if they're serious, they would go back. But it seems that they are not serious about it and just left.
Maybe they just want to discredit a casino that they don't like and saw some little part to discredit and show it to the public.

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Quote from: dustboy on December 20, 2021, 12:16:58 PM

Missing information here is about the reason why his account was closed. If it was closed because the account broke the Stake's rules, I do not think there is a way to recover the account to get the missing VIP benefits (if it is true story that he never received VIP benefits when his account is still active).

Yes, that’s exactly it. I think that if OP had disclosed the reason why his account was closed in the first place, this would have completed this puzzling narration. And now that OP is being inactive, I don’t know if we’ll ever know.

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Quote from: sovie on December 20, 2021, 03:03:42 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on December 19, 2021, 11:23:11 PM

it's almost a week now ? but op never come here again , means we are expecting nothing here now.

In fact, I'd love to know what really happened there. We cannot say with certainty that the whole story was made up by the OP. However, if he does not come back with answers, unfortunately we will have to admit that the whole thing is just a hoax.

Missing information here is about the reason why his account was closed. If it was closed because the account broke the Stake's rules, I do not think there is a way to recover the account to get the missing VIP benefits (if it is true story that he never received VIP benefits when his account is still active).

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All this information is clearly mentioned on the Terms & Conditions and FAQs page. I think you must refer to them or should have some research over the internet so there would be no ambiguity in such cases. Also in my opinion Stake.com administration will not check this post.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 19, 2021, 11:23:11 PM

it's almost a week now ? but op never come here again , means we are expecting nothing here now.

In fact, I'd love to know what really happened there. We cannot say with certainty that the whole story was made up by the OP. However, if he does not come back with answers, unfortunately we will have to admit that the whole thing is just a hoax.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 19, 2021, 06:45:58 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on December 18, 2021, 07:13:07 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

Yes mate. He can address that to stake for them to assess the situation and compare it to himself. He can justify why the other user is getting this and that and while him, he's not getting any.
That's all he need to do and this sucks when you see others are going good and you think that you deserve also something that they get and rant online instead of going to the support to ask legitimately.

yeah , but the thing is that OP seems to not care mate ..

he is not even coming back here from the very moment he posted this case.

i believe that he now find the reason why he need no reason to come back here.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 19, 2021, 10:33:26 AM

I don't think OP will come back here any time to explain anything to us or answer questions. It seems that this account was only used to create this thread and that is the end of his story. See that since opening that thread, he hasn't logged in even once. It was just his alt account to create this theather.

You are right. Now that you’ve mentioned it, it really made sense. That being said, it only means that we will never find out the answers on any questions we have been posting here, and neither we can get anything out of this thread.

it's almost a week now ? but op never come here again , means we are expecting nothing here now.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 19, 2021, 06:45:58 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on December 18, 2021, 07:13:07 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

Yes mate. He can address that to stake for them to assess the situation and compare it to himself. He can justify why the other user is getting this and that and while him, he's not getting any.
That's all he need to do and this sucks when you see others are going good and you think that you deserve also something that they get and rant online instead of going to the support to ask legitimately.

If he wanted to settle this case diplomatically and quietly, he would definitely write directly to the support. The fact that he made his case public proves that he has either already talked to the support and was refused, or he knows that there is no chance of getting anything back because his account has been banned for cheating.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 19, 2021, 06:45:58 PM

Quote from: peter0425 on December 18, 2021, 07:13:07 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

Yes mate. He can address that to stake for them to assess the situation and compare it to himself. He can justify why the other user is getting this and that and while him, he's not getting any.
That's all he need to do and this sucks when you see others are going good and you think that you deserve also something that they get and rant online instead of going to the support to ask legitimately.

The OP has not returned in this thread yet. So don't know his ultimate goal here. Also, this should be in under gambling discussion board or scam accusations (if he wants to), not on this board. Based from my experience, he should have chatted the stake support because they do reply on that chat board. Don't know what extent of communication have the OP with the stake support.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 18, 2021, 07:13:07 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

Yes mate. He can address that to stake for them to assess the situation and compare it to himself. He can justify why the other user is getting this and that and while him, he's not getting any.
That's all he need to do and this sucks when you see others are going good and you think that you deserve also something that they get and rant online instead of going to the support to ask legitimately.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 19, 2021, 10:33:26 AM

I don't think OP will come back here any time to explain anything to us or answer questions. It seems that this account was only used to create this thread and that is the end of his story. See that since opening that thread, he hasn't logged in even once. It was just his alt account to create this theather.

You are right. Now that you’ve mentioned it, it really made sense. That being said, it only means that we will never find out the answers on any questions we have been posting here, and neither we can get anything out of this thread.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on December 19, 2021, 10:08:16 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on December 19, 2021, 09:37:50 AM

is it possible that OP's account is bought? I mean if support informs the gamblers when they reach the minimum level to have a VIP host, then there is no way OP will not know what benefits he'll get.
and if the account is bought the possible reason why OP's account was closed is that stake.com realized that the account was sold to OP?

That could be a possible scenario, I am also thinking that maybe OP was contacted by the support team but OP missed out on the notification. It really puzzles me how OP’s account was closed, I hope OP will be able to answer all of our concerns and satisfy our curiosity.

I don't think OP will come back here any time to explain anything to us or answer questions. It seems that this account was only used to create this thread and that is the end of his story. See that since opening that thread, he hasn't logged in even once. It was just his alt account to create this theather.

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Quote from: acroman08 on December 19, 2021, 09:37:50 AM

is it possible that OP's account is bought? I mean if support informs the gamblers when they reach the minimum level to have a VIP host, then there is no way OP will not know what benefits he'll get.
and if the account is bought the possible reason why OP's account was closed is that stake.com realized that the account was sold to OP?

That could be a possible scenario, I am also thinking that maybe OP was contacted by the support team but OP missed out on the notification. It really puzzles me how OP’s account was closed, I hope OP will be able to answer all of our concerns and satisfy our curiosity.

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Quote from: panjul07 on December 18, 2021, 08:43:59 AM

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is it possible that OP's account is bought? I mean if support informs the gamblers when they reach the minimum level to have a VIP host, then there is no way OP will not know what benefits he'll get.
and if the account is bought the possible reason why OP's account was closed is that stake.com realized that the account was sold to OP?

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 19, 2021, 05:31:00 AM

Did you notice that he did not mention why his account was "blocked" from withdrawals after his account was closed? Stake might have done this, because he abused some kind of exploit and are then not eligible for any proceeds from his gambling.

Also saying that he did not know about the VIP bonuses and privileges are also bullshit. (The Customer Support staff contact you when you level up and they post all your privileges connected to your new level.... and it is displayed under your account under the VIP tab) Roll Eyes

Some users make this kind of mistake and this has led to the block of the account, sometimes the user requests to close their account, and after that withdrawal request will result in not getting the withdrawal and the account closed.
I will advise further contact with the admin of stake if anything can be done.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 19, 2021, 05:31:00 AM

Did you notice that he did not mention why his account was "blocked" from withdrawals after his account was closed? Stake might have done this, because he abused some kind of exploit and are then not eligible for any proceeds from his gambling.

Also saying that he did not know about the VIP bonuses and privileges are also bullshit. (The Customer Support staff contact you when you level up and they post all your privileges connected to your new level.... and it is displayed under your account under the VIP tab) Roll Eyes

It was the first thing I thought about when I read his post. I think it is obvious that Stake.com has blocked his account due to a ToS violation. To get revenge, OP created this thread in the hope that it would damage Stake.com's reputation. I'm sure he won't come back to this thread as its author, but he's definitely watching what's going on here.

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Did you notice that he did not mention why his account was "blocked" from withdrawals after his account was closed? Stake might have done this, because he abused some kind of exploit and are then not eligible for any proceeds from his gambling.

Also saying that he did not know about the VIP bonuses and privileges are also bullshit. (The Customer Support staff contact you when you level up and they post all your privileges connected to your new level.... and it is displayed under your account under the VIP tab) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: pieppiep on December 19, 2021, 04:02:31 AM

Quote from: RILWAN on December 18, 2021, 09:48:00 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on December 18, 2021, 09:34:50 AM

When you are a VIP on any casino, you have more privilege than the regular gamblers and if you have a problem, the site will take care of your problem and solve it as soon as possible. Unless you did a cheat on their site, even if you have a badge VIP, they will not let you get your money because of a cheat. But if you tell an honest story to them, I am sure they will help you and solve your case. You can ask on their ANN, send a ticket to them or even PM'ing @OP who manage their thread so they can be aware of your case and check it and solve it.

I will suggest the ops drop a complaint on the main thread to see what exactly are his benefits for having a VIP account and why he is not getting those benefits on the account.
I hope the problem gets solved in the nearest future

Usually, when a VIP has a problem or complains to the site, the site staff will give more attention to them and solve the problem as soon as possible because that is related to their reputations. And it is not easy to become a VIP on their site so the staff must take care of them carefully.

I guess he will not come back here and clarify the situation Grin

If I have a VIP account on any gambling sites, I will not leave it anyway like @OP but still, try to use it for gambling because becoming VIP is not easy and I am sure there will be a benefit that a VIP will get. So it does not make sense if he does not use his VIP to get that benefits unless he only writes a fake story Grin

What does not make sense to you or what is fake to you? After all, OP wrote that his account was closed: "I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com".
If his account was closed due to a policy violation, he might not have used all the benefits. He probably knows that he will not get them back, which is why he created this thread in revenge.

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Quote from: RILWAN on December 18, 2021, 09:48:00 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on December 18, 2021, 09:34:50 AM

When you are a VIP on any casino, you have more privilege than the regular gamblers and if you have a problem, the site will take care of your problem and solve it as soon as possible. Unless you did a cheat on their site, even if you have a badge VIP, they will not let you get your money because of a cheat. But if you tell an honest story to them, I am sure they will help you and solve your case. You can ask on their ANN, send a ticket to them or even PM'ing @OP who manage their thread so they can be aware of your case and check it and solve it.

I will suggest the ops drop a complaint on the main thread to see what exactly are his benefits for having a VIP account and why he is not getting those benefits on the account.
I hope the problem gets solved in the nearest future

Usually, when a VIP has a problem or complains to the site, the site staff will give more attention to them and solve the problem as soon as possible because that is related to their reputations. And it is not easy to become a VIP on their site so the staff must take care of them carefully.

I guess he will not come back here and clarify the situation Grin

If I have a VIP account on any gambling sites, I will not leave it anyway like @OP but still, try to use it for gambling because becoming VIP is not easy and I am sure there will be a benefit that a VIP will get. So it does not make sense if he does not use his VIP to get that benefits unless he only writes a fake story Grin

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Quote from: Wexnident on December 18, 2021, 09:36:56 AM

Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

Pretty sure it was your fault for not knowing it? I mean I don't think stake is withholding information of their VIP benefits to their users right? I mean that'd probably end up in a loss for them in the long term, and they might as well just remove the VIP benefits in the end.

Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I have searched for articles online and found this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-self-excluded-from-stake-but-cannot-make-withdrawal-5365985

Here, the user has the opportunity to withdraw funds from their account even if the account was closed.

The issue was resolved as you can see in the title, I don't think that should even be presented as proof of stake is a bad casino, just calm down and contact their customer support or their thread here and converse properly.

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I doubt he'll come back, if he intended to prolong this thread he would be active in this thread from the time he created the thread. the instant he creates a thread and then disappears so he just wanted to destroy the stake.com image

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Quote from: Reatim on December 18, 2021, 11:24:37 PM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

Im not a fan of stake but saying he had no clue about VIP benefits is bullshit.

Every time you get a new VIP level the support contacts you via live chat and gives you a bonus.

So, saying he doesn't know about this makes 0 sense.

This situation seems quite strange to me as well. Information about bonuses is always very visible. Perhaps, however, it is about other benefits that the OP did not use.
Either way, this situation must be considered individually by the Administration.
On the other hand, we do not know why his account is inactive.

If he intentionally decline the use of benefits then why he is here trying to Ruin one good gambling site reputation? and also OP seems to be a Newly created account that try to shout out the name of Stake by the reason that we don't really know.

The question is, is it really that he would like to be able to use the remaining bonuses, or if this thread was created just to damage the opinion of Stakes.com
I think the situation would be clearer if the OP would said why his account was blocked.

Do we really believe that he will come back here to clear everything that matters to us?

OP does not even online for the next 2 days after posting this thread , and asking about if he would be using the remaining bonus? that is answerable by NO because he is banned already and the reason is still unanswered .
But i do believe that Stake is in good position to answer this if He will appear again here to answer or follow up what is the score behind His issue.

If he does not come back to clarify the situation, or at least answer the question why his account was blocked, situation would be clear. It would mean that he did so only to damage Stake.com opinion. We will be just not sure why he did it.

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