Stake.com - Unfair and unethical. - page 2.

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Quote from: bitgov on December 18, 2021, 11:15:10 PM

I think that a fairly probable scenario is that the OP intentionally did not use the benefits, because he accumulated them to use them when a satisfactory amount was collected. Unfortunately for him, in the meantime, for some reason, Stake.com closed his account. He knows the account was closed according to the rules, so he can do nothing with it, but now he is trying to get at least the benefits back.

I think it's unlikely for OP to not intentionally claim them since the amount you'd get per rank depends on certain factors like gameplay and losses. Then again if his account is self-excluded similar to the post he linked then it's best for him to wait for the duration to finish.

Quote from: RILWAN on December 18, 2021, 09:48:00 AM

I will suggest the ops drop a complaint on the main thread to see what exactly are his benefits for having a VIP account and why he is not getting those benefits on the account.

OP already did just a few hours after that post he made another on the ANN thread but there's no response though.

Quote from: Stratoo77 on December 17, 2021, 05:53:23 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

Im not a fan of stake but saying he had no clue about VIP benefits is bullshit.

Every time you get a new VIP level the support contacts you via live chat and gives you a bonus.

So, saying he doesn't know about this makes 0 sense.

This situation seems quite strange to me as well. Information about bonuses is always very visible. Perhaps, however, it is about other benefits that the OP did not use.
Either way, this situation must be considered individually by the Administration.
On the other hand, we do not know why his account is inactive.

If he intentionally decline the use of benefits then why he is here trying to Ruin one good gambling site reputation? and also OP seems to be a Newly created account that try to shout out the name of Stake by the reason that we don't really know.

The question is, is it really that he would like to be able to use the remaining bonuses, or if this thread was created just to damage the opinion of Stakes.com
I think the situation would be clearer if the OP would said why his account was blocked.

Do we really believe that he will come back here to clear everything that matters to us?

OP does not even online for the next 2 days after posting this thread , and asking about if he would be using the remaining bonus? that is answerable by NO because he is banned already and the reason is still unanswered .
But i do believe that Stake is in good position to answer this if He will appear again here to answer or follow up what is the score behind His issue.

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I think that a fairly probable scenario is that the OP intentionally did not use the benefits, because he accumulated them to use them when a satisfactory amount was collected. Unfortunately for him, in the meantime, for some reason, Stake.com closed his account. He knows the account was closed according to the rules, so he can do nothing with it, but now he is trying to get at least the benefits back.

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I don't think this thread is created for real reason , because OP literally created this His account to post this thread and then Logged out right after Upping the post .
and up to now never comes back to clarify all of our concerns considering that he has an issue to Stake.com.

So i believe this is not serious matter or he realizes that it is His mistake that makes this situation comes along.

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 18, 2021, 06:50:08 PM

Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

No mate he is not trying to help that User on the link instead he is comparing His case as it is also against stake.com.

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Complain this to stake itself if you're trying to help that user. Address of what you've found and discuss it with stake. But do you think that they'll grant you what you're asking for.
Whatever that benefit is from stake, it's earned and you even if you say that you're entitled for it, you've got to earn that.

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Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

I have searched for articles online and found this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-self-excluded-from-stake-but-cannot-make-withdrawal-5365985

Here, the user has the opportunity to withdraw funds from their account even if the account was closed.

I therefore want to address this in my post and hope the Stake.com administration reads this and provides feedback.

The reason I am addressing this now is that I think about this all the time and I have the right to receive VIP benefits like other users. There is money I have gambled and am entitled to these !!

You did not mention here what is the reason why your account was closed, Stake.com like all the other casinos will look at it on a case to case basis and why in hurry to post it when you can address it via support, have they declined, or do you think they will decline your request, you are accusing them of something that they are not aware of, you're threatening them or bullying them with your post title, talk to them and ask politely about your rewards if they decline then accuse them.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 18, 2021, 12:50:28 PM

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1 - who closed your account and why was your account closed?

The more important question that should have been answered already. The case he provided is about self-exclusion and we cannot tell if he also asked for the same.

What's clear to me is he's begging for the rewards he believes he's entitled to while the other case was asking for the money he actually deposited. I think there's a huge differenve there.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on December 17, 2021, 03:44:49 PM

I don't know what happen to this casino, lately, there is a thread that appreciated stake and having a comparison to bitsler and now, stake again has an issue.

Wrong. He was actually whining and complaining about Bitsler while praising Stake heavily on that thread. He created another thread regarding the same topic very recently.

^ That is what I mean, I smell something revenge from each casino, look at the OP after posting this, and leave the forum, but never mind just my opinion.
I don't understand creating this thread it should be on their ANN thread, then problem solve because we know that the casino mentioned by OP has gained also a reputation here.

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Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

1 - who closed your account and why was your account closed?

2 - How is it possible to be a VIP member and not know that you have certain benefits?

3 - What do you mean you wasted a lot of time?

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Quote from: pieppiep on December 18, 2021, 09:34:50 AM

When you are a VIP on any casino, you have more privilege than the regular gamblers and if you have a problem, the site will take care of your problem and solve it as soon as possible. Unless you did a cheat on their site, even if you have a badge VIP, they will not let you get your money because of a cheat. But if you tell an honest story to them, I am sure they will help you and solve your case. You can ask on their ANN, send a ticket to them or even PM'ing @OP who manage their thread so they can be aware of your case and check it and solve it.

I will suggest the ops drop a complaint on the main thread to see what exactly are his benefits for having a VIP account and why he is not getting those benefits on the account.
I hope the problem gets solved in the nearest future

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Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

Pretty sure it was your fault for not knowing it? I mean I don't think stake is withholding information of their VIP benefits to their users right? I mean that'd probably end up in a loss for them in the long term, and they might as well just remove the VIP benefits in the end.

Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I have searched for articles online and found this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-self-excluded-from-stake-but-cannot-make-withdrawal-5365985

Here, the user has the opportunity to withdraw funds from their account even if the account was closed.

The issue was resolved as you can see in the title, I don't think that should even be presented as proof of stake is a bad casino, just calm down and contact their customer support or their thread here and converse properly.

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When you are a VIP on any casino, you have more privilege than the regular gamblers and if you have a problem, the site will take care of your problem and solve it as soon as possible. Unless you did a cheat on their site, even if you have a badge VIP, they will not let you get your money because of a cheat. But if you tell an honest story to them, I am sure they will help you and solve your case. You can ask on their ANN, send a ticket to them or even PM'ing @OP who manage their thread so they can be aware of your case and check it and solve it.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

Im not a fan of stake but saying he had no clue about VIP benefits is bullshit.

Every time you get a new VIP level the support contacts you via live chat and gives you a bonus.

So, saying he doesn't know about this makes 0 sense.

And I would like to add if you are betting a big amount of money and you spend a lot of time in one casino, you should at least check all the benefits and their VIP rewards, on one casino I'm playing your rank is being displayed along with your profile and there's always a newsletter about VIP rewards, I wonder how these things escaped your attention, anyway I hope the support this issue in a fair manner.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on December 17, 2021, 03:44:49 PM

^ You can post it there on their ANN thread regarding your problem if you want to address it to their administration or directly send PM to Stunna their forum representative. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/stunna-81292.
I don't know what happen to this casino, lately, there is a thread that appreciated stake and having a comparison to bitsler and now, stake again has an issue. Have this issue have not solved? I saw the thread has a mark of (SOLVED).

I am agree with you op is like complaining his/her account in Stake.com and make a thread here in gambling discussion instead of comemnting the ann thread of stakes.com so that the administrator or the owner of that casino must be easy to catch his/her attention.

Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com where I was Platinum 3 and am at 83% to Platinum IV and at that time I had no idea that you could get VIP benefits from a VIP Host something I did not know anything about . I have wasted a lot that time.

I have searched for articles online and found this here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solved-self-excluded-from-stake-but-cannot-make-withdrawal-5365985

Here, the user has the opportunity to withdraw funds from their account even if the account was closed.

I therefore want to address this in my post and hope the Stake.com administration reads this and provides feedback.

The reason I am addressing this now is that I think about this all the time and I have the right to receive VIP benefits like other users. There is money I have gambled and am entitled to these !!

OP try to visit their ann thread so that stake.com casino facilitator will take an action about your complain.

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Quote from: Reatim on December 18, 2021, 04:05:09 AM

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Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

Im not a fan of stake but saying he had no clue about VIP benefits is bullshit.

Every time you get a new VIP level the support contacts you via live chat and gives you a bonus.

So, saying he doesn't know about this makes 0 sense.

This situation seems quite strange to me as well. Information about bonuses is always very visible. Perhaps, however, it is about other benefits that the OP did not use.
Either way, this situation must be considered individually by the Administration.
On the other hand, we do not know why his account is inactive.

If he intentionally decline the use of benefits then why he is here trying to Ruin one good gambling site reputation? and also OP seems to be a Newly created account that try to shout out the name of Stake by the reason that we don't really know.

The question is, is it really that he would like to be able to use the remaining bonuses, or if this thread was created just to damage the opinion of Stakes.com
I think the situation would be clearer if the OP would said why his account was blocked.

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Quote from: acroman08 on December 18, 2021, 01:58:13 AM

Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

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do the support also inform the gambler about VIP hosting? because if the support only contacts you to give you a bonus for reaching a new VIP it's possible that support never mentioned anything about the VIP hosting(which is what OP mentioned in his post).

Yes support will inform you once you are reaching the minimum level to have VIP host.
Based on my experience when I reached Platinum 1 few years ago IIRC, support informed me about who is the assigned VIP host for my account.
I have no idea how OP can claim that he did not receive any VIP host or VIP benefits.
The best option to do by OP is by asking live support to check his account, and support will be able to check the history of the account related to the VIP benefits.

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Quote from: sovie on December 18, 2021, 12:44:40 AM

Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

Im not a fan of stake but saying he had no clue about VIP benefits is bullshit.

Every time you get a new VIP level the support contacts you via live chat and gives you a bonus.

So, saying he doesn't know about this makes 0 sense.

This situation seems quite strange to me as well. Information about bonuses is always very visible. Perhaps, however, it is about other benefits that the OP did not use.
Either way, this situation must be considered individually by the Administration.
On the other hand, we do not know why his account is inactive.

If he intentionally decline the use of benefits then why he is here trying to Ruin one good gambling site reputation? and also OP seems to be a Newly created account that try to shout out the name of Stake by the reason that we don't really know.

There is a ticket that can be filed as stake support is always there to give answer , and also He can directly PM the Admin here in forum for quick response but instead? he create this thread and quoting another existing thread about Steak issue, this seems to be strategically delivered and not really an newbie case.

Quote from: Wiwo on December 18, 2021, 12:40:00 AM

I have been using stake.com for a while now but am not a regular user I just go there place my bet and pay little attention to how the site ranking works, but I will advise you to contact stake admin on this forum to know what exactly happens that you did not get VIP rank.

Then Maybe He missed the chance of directly communicating because he did not mentioned here in His thread .

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Quote from: Wiwo on December 18, 2021, 12:40:00 AM

I have been using stake.com for a while now but am not a regular user I just go there place my bet and pay little attention to how the site ranking works, but I will advise you to contact stake admin on this forum to know what exactly happens that you did not get VIP rank.

Stake support is 100% accurate , they can give answer quickly if OP did contact them about this issue instead of addressing here.
there is something in Intention OP why bring this here directly .

I think these words are the key to this whole situation:

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I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com

I don't know why OP didn't use VIP bonuses, but I think his post is simply meant to make his case public. Probably the account has been closed for some negative reason and by talking about it publicly he wants to exert pressure on Stake to despite the blockage, his bonuses will be used anyway.

Stake keeps their Name on top of every gambling site together with Primedice , they will never let issues like OP's post to make their name questionable .
I guess there are no constant communication in OP's part towards the support so this happens.

The fact that OP created this thread definitely shows that there is a communication problem between him and Stake.com.
I'm just saying that we don't know the reason why his account is inactive. If he blocked it himself, then I think there shouldn't be problem with getting along. However, if it has been blocked for a policy violation, it can be a much more difficult situation.

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Quote from: Maasdamer on December 17, 2021, 10:35:55 PM

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do the support also inform the gambler about VIP hosting? because if the support only contacts you to give you a bonus for reaching a new VIP it's possible that support never mentioned anything about the VIP hosting(which is what OP mentioned in his post).

Quote from: Espen88 on December 17, 2021, 03:30:59 PM

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just do what DoublerHunter suggested since stunna does respond to issues being posted on their thread and scam accusation board.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on December 18, 2021, 01:28:16 AM

Quote from: btc78 on December 18, 2021, 12:55:36 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on December 18, 2021, 12:40:00 AM

I have been using stake.com for a while now but am not a regular user I just go there place my bet and pay little attention to how the site ranking works, but I will advise you to contact stake admin on this forum to know what exactly happens that you did not get VIP rank.

Stake support is 100% accurate , they can give answer quickly if OP did contact them about this issue instead of addressing here.
there is something in Intention OP why bring this here directly .

I think these words are the key to this whole situation:

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I had an account (which is closed) on Stake.com

I don't know why OP didn't use VIP bonuses, but I think his post is simply meant to make his case public. Probably the account has been closed for some negative reason and by talking about it publicly he wants to exert pressure on Stake to despite the blockage, his bonuses will be used anyway.

Stake keeps their Name on top of every gambling site together with Primedice , they will never let issues like OP's post to make their name questionable .
I guess there are no constant communication in OP's part towards the support so this happens.

PM Stunna , he will surely address this issue .

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