Topic: Stellar - page 27. (Read 521267 times)

Thanks for your answers, at the end I believe Stellar has more future than Ripple but distribution needs to improve or make a difference from what is Ripple already, and regarding the sale of XRPs yes, but the part people thought was emotionally driven was the sale announcement not the sale act itself.

Best regards.

most of the unclaimed lumens are going toward people building things: https://www.stellar.org/blog/build-challenge/


cryptoadoption: Oh mean the distribution is centralized. Yeah this is true. but it is temporary and everything else, the network and the code and the ecosystem is decentralized.

"October 5, 2016: The first round of the lumen giveaway to bitcoin holders will conclude. If there are unclaimed lumens, they’ll go to Stellar.org’s operational fund.

Due to regulatory restrictions, this program is closed to residents of the U.S. states of New York, Georgia, New Hampshire, and Connecticut as well as the nations of Iran, Cuba, North Korea, and other countries subject to sanctions by the United States. These restrictions are subject to change to account for changes in regulatory posture."

Why will the unclaimed lumens go to Stellar.org? Why just not touch it and leave it be if no wants it. I believe Stellar.org is getting short in funds and must find a way to get lumens without making it look bad on their side.

You started as a Ripple fork. Lumen distribution remains horrible and is to a large degree centrally controlled.

Your regulatory compliance efforts will ensure Stellar will never be completely decentralized. For example:

"October 5, 2016: The first round of the lumen giveaway to bitcoin holders will conclude. If there are unclaimed lumens, they’ll go to Stellar.org’s operational fund.

Due to regulatory restrictions, this program is closed to residents of the U.S. states of New York, Georgia, New Hampshire, and Connecticut as well as the nations of Iran, Cuba, North Korea, and other countries subject to sanctions by the United States. These restrictions are subject to change to account for changes in regulatory posture."

https://www.stellar.org/developers/guides/compliance-protocol.html

Perhaps what you offer will have some value to banks and corporations. Just please don't pretend that Stellar is decentralized.

cryptoadoption: what part of Stellar do you think is not decentralized?

Stellar sucks for the same reason as Ripple, it is not decentralized

I guess, a better option would be allowing bitcoin holders to sign a message through their private key and claim Stellar. Something similar is possible for CLAM.

I think, if u can rope in dooglus to allow Lumens to be used in Just-Dice alongside CLAM, it would be a great exposure for Stellar and will have a great +ve impact on price.

From: https://www.stellar.org/blog/bitcoin-claim-lumens/


^^WTF is this? Bitcoin holders need to hand over their verified Facebook account details to you or verify themselves at participating exchanges to get claim Stellar? I mean, what kinda moronic honey-trap Stellar network is trying to become?

M28MmickT: If I don't think that XRP is going to be worth much long term why do you think I should be obligated to hold on to it? I didn't start selling right when I left ripple (when I was the most angry) I gave them a year to see if things would look better but to me it still seemed like the company wouldn't last long term so it was time to sell. Of course it is impossible for me to be totally objective but I was trying to make a rational choice. But I really don't think it was emotionally driven decision which is what I think you are implying when you say it was childish.

We have done several auctions of lumens which is similar to a crowdsale. SDF is currently selling some of its lumens on kraken right now to pay for our operations. So anyone can go be an early adopter, get lumens and help SDF.

>And for the end, don't look for someone to build apps on your platform
This isn't our platform. This is owned by the world. It will be built by you guys. It is all open source and an open protocol much like bitcoin. If Stellar is going to work other people need to get involved. I think there are a lot of people out there that are dissatisfied with how money and payments work and Stellar can greatly improve things and democratize/decentralize these concentrations of power. This technology can be very liberating and empowering but it does take a community of people to contribute to it.

Where is claim page ?? Cant find it..

Lumen is XLM, previously called stellar or STR

You can claim your free lumens till October 5th.


https://www.stellar.org/blog/bitcoin-claim-lumens/

Now what is lumen ? Is it something different from XLM, which is represented here - http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/stellar/ ? Moreover, can these be collected anytime in future against previous bitcoin holdings ?

Thankyou for responding me, it speaks well of a Dev, now continuing the questions what about the ripple dump? ,
I did not say it was bad to announce it, what is bad was the dump itself, you already had made alot before it because at first months price was 5k/ BTC , it semmed like you wanted to destroy the project with that action rather than taking "your profit" and that was because of internal disputes common users doesnt care at all.

That action was very inmature, people had no fault on your internal disputes, not even banks do that when they change their owner.

And regarding the premine, I believe you should had made a crowdsale with stellar to get better and fast distribution instead of doing the same than with ripple, your mode of distribution take years to get it well distributed without people holding amounts capable of crashing the price to 0 at any moment, if you still have billions why dont you make a crowdsale now? Looks less fishy than your way of distribution.

And for the end, don't look for someone to build apps on your platform, why dont you better build them yourself and your hired staff you have 3 millions USD from Stripe. Have a nice day Mr. Mccaleb

I never followed up on this, the redemption at least, as I specifically wasn't holding a ton of coin during the 'airdrop' and didn't move.my coins to new addresses with a key I wouldn't mind sharing. So this amounted to 30 cents per Bitcoin? This doesn't seem like anyone got too many of these then, I understand why the price didn't react.

X-ray and klintay: this is why we also have this program for most of the unclaimed lumens: https://www.stellar.org/blog/build-challenge/
If you build a project on stellar you can get *a lot* of lumens

Its true...I am not even going to bother redeeming...

i could agree with this, why the heck people who owning 10btc only get 1,911.72 lumens which is only .0000649% of total lumens,and even worst with those who own only a little bit,maybe this giveaway only specialized for the rich,and i can't even sure the lumens will be claimed more than 3% of total

Polo is participating in the giveaway, but I'm not sure when they will be disbursing the coins. Bittrex has yet to confirm that they are participating. Your best bet is probably just to wait on Polo.

I have a small amount of BTC with Polo. But sadly Polo has not yet integrated with lumens  yet. So noone of us who hold BTC in Polo wont be able to claim it.

Does anyone know whether Bittrex or any other exchange has integrated lumens giveaway yet?

I earning with stellar 0.1 btc a 2 years ago,that is my best opinion with altcoins