Topic: Still Love Democracy? - page 11. (Read 6040 times)
It is not perfect, but no one has invented a better system for now.
Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.
Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.
Also, the lesser the official, the lesser the expenses which means mire budget in improving a country.
Yes, you are right partially, that we have a lot corruption in democracy, a lot fights, injustice etc.
But.... can you really compare life in democracy with life of average person 500 years ago?
Or 2 000 years ago?
Even democracy is not perfect yet, quality of our life is much better than before.
If not democracy, than, what is alternative?
Please, show me?
Anarchy?
Democracy can mean many things to many people. Heck, even some dictatorial regimes prefer to call their system to be democratic while at the same time they are using the state power to suppress people and to spread lies just to create fear.
In my idea, democracy means that the government is coming from the people, for the people and by the people. The power emanates from the voters and that power should be used for the greater good of the people.
However, there are some people who prefer someone to lord over them as long as that ruler can provide them all the basic stuffs they need. They don't care if they don't have the freedom others are enjoying as long they have something to eat everyday.
As for me, I still love democracy and I hate it if someone would be curtailing my Bitcoin freedom lol.
In my idea, democracy means that the government is coming from the people, for the people and by the people. The power emanates from the voters and that power should be used for the greater good of the people.
However, there are some people who prefer someone to lord over them as long as that ruler can provide them all the basic stuffs they need. They don't care if they don't have the freedom others are enjoying as long they have something to eat everyday.
As for me, I still love democracy and I hate it if someone would be curtailing my Bitcoin freedom lol.
I can see your point. I love democracy too. Despite all the flaws it has, you at least won't be put in jail for using Bitcoin in a democratic country. And I agree that some people sell their freedom for the food and seeming security. It is their choice to make of course but I think it's not worth it.
Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.
Democracy is a failed ideology. It encourages ethnic polarization and uncontrolled population growth. More population means more votes, and more votes mean more power. In third world countries, people indulge in uncontrolled population explosion, so that they could capture power through democracy.
Democracy means freedom. I will only fully believe in democracy if the real freedom is acheved like freedom from poverty, freedom from criminality, freedom from graft and corruption, freedom from war and other much needed freedoms.
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.
Also, the lesser the official, the lesser the expenses which means mire budget in improving a country.
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
That's the true problem of democracy in todays modern world. When democracy was invented you didn't have nearly as much people as you do now, and back then it was easier to come up to the one single mutual idea, but now... now it's just the corruption at it's finest.
Democracy is good because it brightens the streets and highways. Up and down the tarmacadam, billboards of happy, smiley faces declare a zest for life wrapped in a slogan that commits said face to a duty of "BUILDING THE FUTURE", "SECURING THE FUTURE, MOVING FORWARD", or any other form of propulsion. Another one is that we can smile back at said faces and reply, Do they take us for fools?
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
In America, the people are above the Government democracy. Read my post at the bottom of this link to see how https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17152909.
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
George Orwell has taught us how TPTB want to manipulate people.
Of all government forms democracy sure has the best propaganda.
They make you give away your power, and give you back "voting".
They want to make you think that you are still in power now that you can "vote".
But nothing could be further from the truth.
-sf-
What does democracy mean anymore?
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
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When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
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It means that there is only one person the people can vote for. In addition, they are required to vote or die.
Exactly, so the word democracy has no meaning or expectation of outcome.
It's like the word "relationship".
Can mean many things.
It can be a good one or an abusive one.
But the word itself gives no indication.
-sf-
Word democracy have real meaning.
It comes from Greek word ''demos'' which means people.
So, democracy means that people rule and can choose their political representatives.
Of course, democracy is not ideal political system and many leaders can abuse it but still we don't have anything better.
It's fact.
What does democracy mean anymore?
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
It means that there is only one person the people can vote for. In addition, they are required to vote or die.
Exactly, so the word democracy has no meaning or expectation of outcome.
It's like the word "relationship".
Can mean many things.
It can be a good one or an abusive one.
But the word itself gives no indication.
-sf-
What does democracy mean anymore?
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
It means that there is only one person the people can vote for. In addition, they are required to vote or die.
What does democracy mean anymore?
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
When North Korea calls itself officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) then what does it even mean?
-sf-
Why we must have a democracy?
Democracy gives citizens the ability to influence laws and policies through the election of representatives. Through support of certain candidates and public communication, citizens are able to influence the direction of economic, social and political values. Because of this power in the hands of everyday citizens, the theoretical political control of the country lies with the majority as opposed to a select few in power.
Democracy gives citizens the ability to influence laws and policies through the election of representatives. Through support of certain candidates and public communication, citizens are able to influence the direction of economic, social and political values. Because of this power in the hands of everyday citizens, the theoretical political control of the country lies with the majority as opposed to a select few in power.
And the majority is what? Educated, intelligent group of responsible people? No, the majority is the mob, the easily influenced group that can be lead by money or promises that later become no more than a pile of crap. In every society there's much more illiterate morons than professors, which means that if they all cast a vote it will always be as the morons want it.
Democracy is an idea, the people should be able to decide what they want their country to do but so many times, the interests of the few overcome the interests of the many.
That is the main problem, direct democracy is something that must be improved in every country, things as referendums are a must!
Referendums must be optimized to cost less, aka. digital voting, volunteers etc. and require less signatures to be taken so the nation actually has the means to correct actions from politicians they do not support.
Elected politicians often forget that they are where they are to serve the nation and not vice versa and that's why direct democracy must be improved.
Democracy is a growing system, we had it for a long time but we must improve it so the individual has more power.
And yes, I still love it, although flawed, it's still the best system we have.
The current system of democracy does not meet their requirements. I believe that the government is the sphere which requires special education and does not tolerate publicity. For these purposes, democracy can be destructive.That is the main problem, direct democracy is something that must be improved in every country, things as referendums are a must!
Referendums must be optimized to cost less, aka. digital voting, volunteers etc. and require less signatures to be taken so the nation actually has the means to correct actions from politicians they do not support.
Elected politicians often forget that they are where they are to serve the nation and not vice versa and that's why direct democracy must be improved.
Democracy is a growing system, we had it for a long time but we must improve it so the individual has more power.
And yes, I still love it, although flawed, it's still the best system we have.
Whose requirements?
Democracy can be destructive if implemented badly, corruption WILL happen if everything is not transparent, but this is not a problem of democracy but a problem of control.
That's exaclty what I said in my previous reply, direct democracy must increase as politicians often don't reprensent the will of the people who they're supposed to represent
I believe they should also be graded by the nation and their salary judged on the average grade
Most of them would probably starve, so I'd put a min. and max. salary so they can at least eat
Market competition is what improves everything, race to become the best, to earn the most by giving the buyer what he wants
And here we are the buyers
We pay them to represent us, if they do not do so we will grade them badly and they will earn less
At the new elections we will pick somebody else and he wouldn't give a damn for 4 years unless we had an option to decrease his salary
I have an idea of digitalazing the whole political process so politicians remain under control of the people during their 4 year rule, not just before the elections
Political dynasties occur everywhere and politics is a battle of families. Democracy today is useless, it is just a guise but the truth remains that the people are less free, they become more closer to poverty and hardship while the oligarchs that rules the government enslaves them and enjoys a happy and luxurious life. Sometimes a communist country with a good leader brings more freedom to the people rather than a democratic country run by enslaving and corrupt individuals.
Democracy gives citizens the ability to influence laws and policies through the election of representatives. Through support of certain candidates and public communication, citizens are able to influence the direction of economic, social and political values. Because of this power in the hands of everyday citizens, the theoretical political control of the country lies with the majority as opposed to a select few in power.
Democracy to me is still the best form of government to me. There is a saying for countries that have witnessed quite a number of coups that "the worst democracy is better than the best military government" for the fact that I have a choice to make of the notion that I have a choice to make in the governance of my country is enough reason why I choose democracy. Another is the of criticism where civilians can do against government and not scared of soldiers knocking on your door the next hour is enough.
Democrasy is not the best form of government at all in today's time. Why? Well because you havea lot more people than you did when democrazy was created and people can havfe a lot more power now, also democrazy is a lot more available to corruption.
General democracy might not be the best form of government. But democracy as it is in America just might be. Why? Because the American democracy has a little twist to it that allows the people to overrule the government any time they want.
On top of this, we need to realize that the 12-person jury can overrule all laws. How to get an issue in front of a 12-person jury? File a claim of injury in a court of law, against government, or against a government person, and require a jury.
In addition, Federal Rules of court state that there need to be 4 things before court can even be held:
1. A complainant or claimant (plaintiff);
2. An accused (defendant);
3. REAL injury, harm or damage;
4. At least one witness, and evidence.
But if Government accuses you of anything, and you don't require these 4 things, they can do anything they want.
What this means is that most government laws don't have any affect on you. Why? What about a speeding stop? The fine is, say, $120 dollars. Have you harmed anyone or damaged his property? No? They don't have a case except if you don't require them to show real injury to someone.
How about smoking some pot at home? Did you harm anyone with real harm or damage? No? They don't have a case except if you don't require them to show real injury to someone.
"But I can't afford to fight them" Yes you can. You can require damages for them filing a false claim against you to the tune of:
1. Whatever your fine would have been - now you get it from them;
2. Loss of time, a job, and other damages they did to you by filing a false complaint against you;
3. Court costs;
4. Depending on the case, more $$$.
Your attorney is an officer of the court. His first obligation is to the court and not to you. If he won't require that they bring forward an injured person, he is screwing you. Fire him, and sue him for damages.
It's in the Federal Rules of Court. If they go against their own rules, sue them. Take them to court.
In addition, Federal Rules of court state that there need to be 4 things before court can even be held:
1. A complainant or claimant (plaintiff);
2. An accused (defendant);
3. REAL injury, harm or damage;
4. At least one witness, and evidence.
But if Government accuses you of anything, and you don't require these 4 things, they can do anything they want.
What this means is that most government laws don't have any affect on you. Why? What about a speeding stop? The fine is, say, $120 dollars. Have you harmed anyone or damaged his property? No? They don't have a case except if you don't require them to show real injury to someone.
How about smoking some pot at home? Did you harm anyone with real harm or damage? No? They don't have a case except if you don't require them to show real injury to someone.
"But I can't afford to fight them" Yes you can. You can require damages for them filing a false claim against you to the tune of:
1. Whatever your fine would have been - now you get it from them;
2. Loss of time, a job, and other damages they did to you by filing a false complaint against you;
3. Court costs;
4. Depending on the case, more $$$.
Your attorney is an officer of the court. His first obligation is to the court and not to you. If he won't require that they bring forward an injured person, he is screwing you. Fire him, and sue him for damages.
It's in the Federal Rules of Court. If they go against their own rules, sue them. Take them to court.
Democracy to me is still the best form of government to me. There is a saying for countries that have witnessed quite a number of coups that "the worst democracy is better than the best military government" for the fact that I have a choice to make of the notion that I have a choice to make in the governance of my country is enough reason why I choose democracy. Another is the of criticism where civilians can do against government and not scared of soldiers knocking on your door the next hour is enough.
Democrasy is not the best form of government at all in today's time. Why? Well because you havea lot more people than you did when democrazy was created and people can havfe a lot more power now, also democrazy is a lot more available to corruption.
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