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CLIMATE CHANGE 'AS CERTAIN AS AUSCHWITZ,' CLAIMS GUARDIAN

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Global warming ‘deniers’ are as bad as ‘Holocaust deniers’ because climate change is as “as certain as Auschwitz”, a Guardian columnist, Nick Cohen, has claimed. (H/T Marc Morano at Climate Depot)

Anyone who disagrees with this is a “bed-wetting kidult”, he says.

Oh, and also, climate change deniers are a bit like people who believe in aliens.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/23/Climate-Change-As-Certain-As-Auschwitz-claims-Guardian

I enjoyed that article (the original guardian article). Nick Cohen knows what he's talking about.
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Lol. I honestly did not expect these results. Maybe the feminists, but definitely not the environmentalists. Feminists being disliked I can understand, because they upset the traditional male/female relationship, and a lot of people are still stuck in that mindset. Plus I think there's a large proportion of lesbians in feminist movements so there's homophobia as well.

But environmentalists is strange. The "tree-hugger" "hippie" phase was like the 70s-90s when envrionmentalism was still new and it was mostly young people trying to change society. You'd think environmental protection is sort of a given in today's society in that most of us agree on it and support it.


Let me show you why the "new" feminists are full of gas. Here is a video. Posted the 19th of March 2014. The link may be dead in a few weeks, who knows. Here is a screen shot that lady ever existed if youtube decides to take it down.

Take all your time, there will be no deadline. Visit all your favorite feminist websites. I am sure you are aware of them since you seem to know exactly what they stands for. Contact them directly. Ask them about this video and what they are planning to do about it. You can even tell them you are not expecting any type of boycott or petitions or pushing for anything on TV. You just want them to cover this and other cases of abuse in the Middle East. Not much really. Just a simple article with a link once a month. No more.

Let us know what happen.

LoL back at you.



What happens when a blonde girl walks through Cairo University campus?



http://youtu.be/mzLh9g6QV_k

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That's a pretty classic response Nathonas, I think you've been watching far too much television if you genuinely believe that but because I've already argued in this thread I will give a TLDR version of my arguments about feminism and environmentalism.

I just don't like modern feminists because they're really just sexists who hate men and want favourtism, they don't fight for equal rights at all, they use political pressure to attack men and encourage it, they're an insult to the real feminists back in the day who fought for the right to vote and wanted equal treatment.

I don't like Environmentalists not because they're tree hugging hippies, but because they're a bunch of hysterical alarmists who flip out over every little thing in life without providing scientific evidence to back it up. They are never satisfied and they don't even bother to fight against real threats to our environment like Nuclear Power which I guarantee will reduce large plots of land to radioactive creators if we allow the morons in charge to build them. They would probably get a lot more support if they argued about Nuclear Power than if they cried about a certain species of animal dying out or about a chemical process which frankly can be cleaned up a lot more easily than radioactivity can.

It's nothing to do with what they stand for, it's the fact they behave like a bunch of assholes.
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Lol. I honestly did not expect these results. Maybe the feminists, but definitely not the environmentalists. Feminists being disliked I can understand, because they upset the traditional male/female relationship, and a lot of people are still stuck in that mindset. Plus I think there's a large proportion of lesbians in feminist movements so there's homophobia as well.

But environmentalists is strange. The "tree-hugger" "hippie" phase was like the 70s-90s when envrionmentalism was still new and it was mostly young people trying to change society. You'd think environmental protection is sort of a given in today's society in that most of us agree on it and support it.
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While I was growing up, one of my dad's girlfriends was vegetarian (and had been since she was like 15). One time we went to this indian place that we went to somewhat regularly and she ordered the same thing she ordered everytime, only this time she noticed miniscule bits of chicken in it. Apparently, those chicken bits were part of the recipe and she had been eating them everytime we went there. I'll always remember the look on her face when the waiter told her  Shocked

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I wish I could witness that moment.
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I worked with a girl who was a vegetarian, who was very nice...opposite of your description.

I should clarify, my girl had a more meek and kind personality (and she never pushed her veganism on anybody), but I have met OTHER vegetarians/vegans that are not so..reserved.

Then one day she came back from lunch with this dazed, happy grin....I figgured she done fallen in love or got stoned or something.  Everyone noticed it.  Asked her what's happened.  Her grin gets bigger and in pure happiness she said...

"I just had a Hamburger...."

Lol, I'm glad she liked it.

While I was growing up, one of my dad's girlfriends was vegetarian (and had been since she was like 15). One time we went to this indian place that we went to somewhat regularly and she ordered the same thing she ordered everytime, only this time she noticed miniscule bits of chicken in it. Apparently, those chicken bits were part of the recipe and she had been eating them everytime we went there. I'll always remember the look on her face when the waiter told her  Shocked
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That's because environmentalists and feminists (and vegetarians) tend to be over-bearing, hypocritical, and unwilling to take criticism.

Mind you, not all of them are like that, I've met many vegetarians and environmentalists in my life that were calm intellectual people that I genuinely liked. I've never actually met a likeable feminist (although i'm sure they exist).

Another study, featuring 17 male and 45 female undergraduates, confirmed the pervasiveness of those stereotypes.

Not much of a study   Lips sealed
I think you have a point there concerning how people self-identify. 

For someone to self identify as a feminist...
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While I've noticed vegetarians being lumped in with the other two groups, I've not noticed any real (as in socially acceptable and intense) hostility toward them like the others.

I don't know about elsewhere, but I live in the NW U.S. and here it's pretty socially unacceptable to be vegetarian. People give them crap about it at restaurants just based on their order (even if they haven't brought up the fact that they are vegetarian). Shit, it's so socially acceptable to bash vegetarians there's even commercials that do it; usually depicting a man on a date with some psychotic girl that's flipping out b/c he ordered meat and is therefore committing 'murder'. I dated a vegan girl for a little under a year back in college, she definitely got crap for it all the time. Especially when she wouldn't order anything when people invited her out to restaurants that didn't have any vegan options.


I suspect a lot of that is because most vegetarians aren't actively trying to punish other people for eating meat (or at the very least, maybe because those that do are considered animal rights activists instead.)

I don't know man, I've met some crazy over-bearing vegetarians in my time. I've even had some spend an entire meal lecturing me about what i'm eating. But you're probably right about the latter part, most of the vegetarians that do shit like that usually have some higher cause they've devoted their minds and souls to.

I worked with a girl who was a vegetarian, who was very nice...opposite of your description.

Then one day she came back from lunch with this dazed, happy grin....I figgured she done fallen in love or got stoned or something.  Everyone noticed it.  Asked her what's happened.  Her grin gets bigger and in pure happiness she said...

"I just had a Hamburger...."
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While I've noticed vegetarians being lumped in with the other two groups, I've not noticed any real (as in socially acceptable and intense) hostility toward them like the others.

I don't know about elsewhere, but I live in the NW U.S. and here it's pretty socially unacceptable to be vegetarian. People give them crap about it at restaurants just based on their order (even if they haven't brought up the fact that they are vegetarian). Shit, it's so socially acceptable to bash vegetarians there's even commercials that do it; usually depicting a man on a date with some psychotic girl that's flipping out b/c he ordered meat and is therefore committing 'murder'. I dated a vegan girl for a little under a year back in college, she definitely got crap for it all the time. Especially when she wouldn't order anything when people invited her out to restaurants that didn't have any vegan options.


I suspect a lot of that is because most vegetarians aren't actively trying to punish other people for eating meat (or at the very least, maybe because those that do are considered animal rights activists instead.)

I don't know man, I've met some crazy over-bearing vegetarians in my time. I've even had some spend an entire meal lecturing me about what i'm eating. But you're probably right about the latter part, most of the vegetarians that do shit like that usually have some higher cause they've devoted their minds and souls to.
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That's because environmentalists and feminists (and vegetarians) tend to be over-bearing, hypocritical, and unwilling to take criticism.

While I've noticed vegetarians being lumped in with the other two groups, I've not noticed any real (as in socially acceptable and intense) hostility toward them like the others.

I suspect a lot of that is because most vegetarians aren't actively trying to punish other people for eating meat (or at the very least, maybe because those that do are considered animal rights activists instead.)


Another study, featuring 17 male and 45 female undergraduates, confirmed the pervasiveness of those stereotypes.

Not much of a study   Lips sealed

True, but it wasn't the only one. As I recall, at least several all pointed to the same outcome.
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That's because environmentalists and feminists (and vegetarians) tend to be over-bearing, hypocritical, and unwilling to take criticism.

Mind you, not all of them are like that, I've met many vegetarians and environmentalists in my life that were calm intellectual people that I genuinely liked. I've never actually met a likeable feminist (although i'm sure they exist).

Another study, featuring 17 male and 45 female undergraduates, confirmed the pervasiveness of those stereotypes.

Not much of a study   Lips sealed
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Why the fuck there's such a group of "fat people" who identify themselves by that.

Do they take pride in being fat? It's not actually like really believing in something.






Do you take pride in being ignorant, racist, xenophobic, homophobic and Islamaphobic? You really do seem like a hateful person. What are you really angry with?

Don't see what this has to do with environmentalists and feminists either?
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Why the fuck there's such a group of "fat people" who identify themselves by that.

Do they take pride in being fat? It's not actually like really believing in something.





Whats next, dumb people joining in groups, and starting a Dumb People Pride?
Oh wait, it's done already and is called (insert you pun here)
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A “Fat Justice and Feminism” seminar sponsored by Swarthmore College blamed Ronald Reagan for the suffering of fat people and accused the Body mass index (BMI) of having “direct links to a white supremacist.”

The workshop, taught by feminist activist Cora Segal and self-identified “angry, man-hating lesbian,” Nicole Sullivan, took place Thursday and sought to “address the ongoing exploitation and oppression of fat people.”

The Swarthmore Independent reports that Segal and Sullivan took aim at a variety of subjects including President Ronald Reagan, who they claimed “f*cked everything up” for fat people—though the Independent drily reports that “[n]o specific evidence about Reagan’s perverse policies or animosity toward obese people was offered.”

Segal and Sullivan also argued in favor of “communism and socialism as viable alternatives to capitalism and exploitation” and against oppressive healthy eating and exercise programs. The two reportedly went so far as to claim that “every physician is bought off by lobbyists and the diet industry.”

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5505
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CLIMATE CHANGE 'AS CERTAIN AS AUSCHWITZ,' CLAIMS GUARDIAN

[...]
Global warming ‘deniers’ are as bad as ‘Holocaust deniers’ because climate change is as “as certain as Auschwitz”, a Guardian columnist, Nick Cohen, has claimed. (H/T Marc Morano at Climate Depot)

Anyone who disagrees with this is a “bed-wetting kidult”, he says.

Oh, and also, climate change deniers are a bit like people who believe in aliens.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/23/Climate-Change-As-Certain-As-Auschwitz-claims-Guardian
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Environmentalists giving away Earth Day condoms to combat overpopulation







In honor of Earth Day this year, groups are giving out 44,000 “Endangered Species Condoms.”

The environmentally friendly condoms will be distributed in an effort to refocus the green holiday back to why it was started: to campaign against “runaway human population growth and overconsumption.”

“April 22 is the 44th Earth Day, and this year we want to bring the holiday’s focus back to its origins: runaway human population growth and overconsumption, the root causes of our most pressing environmental crises,” the Center for Biological Diversity wrote in a pitch to its supporters.

“We need people across the country to help distribute 44,000 Endangered Species Condoms in time for Earth Day,” the Center continued. “These colorful, fun condom packages feature six species threatened by our growing human population — already more than 7 billion — along with talking points to help get the conversation started.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/21/environmentalists-giving-away-earth-day-condoms-to-combat-overpopulation/#ixzz2wr0IkVwv


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Free abortions next year?

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A feminist studies professor at a California state university is facing criminal charges after a videotaped run-in with a teenage pro-life demonstrator in which she snatched an anti-abortion sign and appeared to get physical with the girl.

University of California at Santa Barbara Associate Professor Mireille Miller-Young was charged with one misdemeanor count each of theft, battery and vandalism in the March 4 incident, Santa Barbara County District Attorney Joyce Dudley announced Friday. The charges came days after 16-year-old Thrin Short and her parents met with prosecutors.

Thrin told authorities what she told FoxNews.com earlier this month: She, her older sister Joan, 21, and some other pro-life activists were holding signs and demonstrating in a free speech zone on the bucolic campus March 4 when Miller-Young, who also teaches courses on pornography, went berserk.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/21/university-california-santa-barbara-feminist-professor-charged-in-confrontation/?intcmp=trending
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EXTRA HINT: I don't recall once in this thread where someone who was defending either feminists or environmentalists has said, "yeah, the movement goes too far here, and here, and I and others in the movement are working to restore sanity in that area by getting legislation *repealed*." Now, if you're defending these movements, but the idea of ever making the above statement seems worrisome or somehow wrong to you... YOUR MINDSET DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE PROBLEM.


Quoted for truth.

This applies to all *ists at a very fundamental level.
If you don't police your own, your group gets tarred.

Am not a joiner of groups myself and this is one of the reasons.
Even if I agree with much of what a political party, or movement says, they all have outspoken wackos that grab headlines with their nonsense.  So prefer not to be lumped in with any of that, and by the same token as judgemental as I am, I don't categorically thing all members of any group are bad or wrong.  Being wrong is an individual thing.
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This is what true environmentalism used to look like to me





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By the kind of "reasoning" I've seen in this thread, I could grab a few posts from BCT and claim as accurately that everyone who has any Bitcoin at all is a child molester, who huffs jenkem while shooting krokodil and ordering mass murders from assassination sites, runs a Ponzi scheme and an illegal and rigged gambling site, and is also, worst of all, an adult male fan of My Little Pony.

This is what Bitcoin actually believes.

The point is, plenty of people already DO believe that about Bitcoin.

Similarly, the popular conception of feminists and environmentalists is highly negative. Doesn't matter how true the conception is; the IMAGE is itself the problem hindering their goals.

This isn't a thread about trying to prove that those movements are viewed badly. The facts are already in, we already KNOW what society thinks of feminists and environmentalists. This thread is about showing WHY the image is so bad, because apparently lots of people who claim those labels for themselves don't get it. (Or just refuse to believe it.)

HINT: if you're attacking the messengers rather than acknowledging that these sorts of articles all illustrate the kind of people who cause the image problem, and either offer suggestions or counter-examples, you're probably not going to get anywhere.

EXTRA HINT: I don't recall once in this thread where someone who was defending either feminists or environmentalists has said, "yeah, the movement goes too far here, and here, and I and others in the movement are working to restore sanity in that area by getting legislation *repealed*." Now, if you're defending these movements, but the idea of ever making the above statement seems worrisome or somehow wrong to you... YOUR MINDSET DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE PROBLEM.
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