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For me gambling is not that serious and for me gambling is just for fun without thinking about becoming a good gambler.

Gambling is suppose to be a game that has fun and expectation of financial benefit or some kind of benefit to it. I think this time around the word gambling is really appearing in our daily lives, people now take it seriously and bet hugely on it therefore relying on it for source of income and livelihood. Having this believe is the reason that even when you are losing, you still have hope that you are going to win ar the next try because you are having high believe in the profit from it. Don't depend on gambling alone to be successful, it is gambling and based on luck .
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I don't see arresting people who play in makeshift casinos or street games as a crime, the police should take care of the real ruffians, who are the ones who kill, commit crimes, that's what makes them policemen Don't arrest people who are looking for fun and who don't hurt anyone, those are the things that governments and control entities do that don't let others do what they want. In my country, at one time they did those procedures because Casinos were prohibited, and that is something I never agreed with, now casinos are legal as long as they give the government a good cut.
If the street casino is illegal, the police have to raid and arrest them unless the street casino already has a permit to open the street casino from the government. The police cannot arrest anyone who comes to a street casino unless they make noise or disturb the people who come to the casino. And as long as nothing interferes, the casino can operate properly and the police can also carry out their duties. But don't forget that everywhere there are corrupt cops who will ask the casino for security money.

It can be easily tracked by police now a days, as we know there are cameras everywhere and also CCTVs, so no matter how you run if you are in public, it can be easily tracked. Also,  with planting evidence, that is really what they are doing as long as they haven't found hard evidence. When some get caught, they will plant it so that for sure they go to jail. Even if it was seen by somebody, they will still deny it. Public places to gamble are not good. I think you can concentrate and enjoy the game in a private and quiet place.
Yes, if there is CCTV, the police will find out easily and immediately do something, so tracking it will be easy. But we still have to be careful in a public space like that because crime can happen anywhere and anytime.

And I agree that to enjoy gambling games, we need a separate place that is quiet and calm so we can concentrate on the game.

I don't know to what extent it is good that the police have access to this gambling thing, we all know that at some point the police obey the commitments and orders of the governments, and that they will act as force if an order is given to them And it doesn't matter if they count people, because I have witnessed that the same force that swore to protect its citizens, a politician is capable of making them do what is asked of them, going against their own principles, and that is violated all the time, in third world countries that is not seen a lot, but I know that everyone around the world obeys it, because games of chance always have to leave some profit for their own bosses above".
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Reading the topic title and the first words of the contents of this topic and reading the post is self-explanatory, it's like clickbait.
We can see Op finally making a post about raising funds wanting to share the proceeds, this obviously doesn't need to be taken seriously.
For me gambling is not that serious and for me gambling is just for fun without thinking about becoming a good gambler.

Has OP posted about raising funds? or it's just a premonition of yours?

Perhaps I've missed something, but to my understanding because of his comments, opening poster is quite skeptic about the chances to earn a living gambling and, although a very little percentage of people who tries manages to do it (deviations in probability?) I just see that he wants to hold a conversation with us on the topic.

Maybe I'm too naive, but I still don't see any hidden motives.
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Reading the topic title and the first words of the contents of this topic and reading the post is self-explanatory, it's like clickbait.
We can see Op finally making a post about raising funds wanting to share the proceeds, this obviously doesn't need to be taken seriously.
For me gambling is not that serious and for me gambling is just for fun without thinking about becoming a good gambler.
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.
Casinos will go bankrupt in no time if there is no house edge, that is how this business model is profitable, otherwise, players could win a lot of money and make casinos go bankrupt. Also, skills can't be used in every gambling game, you are right that one can use their skills and experience in sports betting and might get success because there is no house edge in sports betting, and whether you will win or lose depends on the outcome of a real-life event.

So someone who doesn't want to be a victim of the house edge should probably learn sports betting and research and analyze different matches of the sport that they like and have some experience in and they might get success in that area, other than that, there is no chance for anyone to be successful because gambling isn't for that.
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.

but is it enough to make a living on it? I mean that it is very risky to make gambling a source of income. Even in sports betting, you'll lose as there are times that you think that team is weak but that time they won. The meaning of that is that you lose, so if that happens, what will you do if you are in need of money? Though, let's say, you are really good at it and have 10 years of experience, it is still not enough to have a 100% winning rate. It is better to have another stable source of income, then make it like a side hustle if you see that it is profitable.
Your doubts are valid. Sports betting as a main source of income is a risky proposition, similar to jumping off a cliff and hoping you'll grow wings on the way down. Even a decade' worth of experience doesnt guarantee success. You can't control the outcome of sports games - underdogs can and do win.

However, if you're an experienced punter, you can try your hand at making it a side gig. Keep in mind that it should be supplementary to a stable income. And even then, its no surefire way to rake in the moolah. I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but its essential to be aware of the realities of the game. Always keep your feet firmly planted on the ground.
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.

but is it enough to make a living on it? I mean that it is very risky to make gambling a source of income. Even in sports betting, you'll lose as there are times that you think that team is weak but that time they won. The meaning of that is that you lose, so if that happens, what will you do if you are in need of money? Though, let's say, you are really good at it and have 10 years of experience, it is still not enough to have a 100% winning rate. It is better to have another stable source of income, then make it like a side hustle if you see that it is profitable.

For pros, may they never chase 100% win chance because it’s impossible. Let’s think it deeper and wider. 50/50 game, like any markets such as stock or foreign currency exchanges or gold/silver trading, nobody will ensure can win 100%. Just up and down. All things on Earth have odds. Just different on time scope. I know some great buildings can’t be finished in one or two generations. Invest on the time. This is the most important stuff we have. We have to observe the rules and follow the trend for anything what we have interest on. If you still have your own biased on gambling, better to quit before going to homeless. 95% of gamblers will loss everything.
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.

but is it enough to make a living on it? I mean that it is very risky to make gambling a source of income. Even in sports betting, you'll lose as there are times that you think that team is weak but that time they won. The meaning of that is that you lose, so if that happens, what will you do if you are in need of money? Though, let's say, you are really good at it and have 10 years of experience, it is still not enough to have a 100% winning rate. It is better to have another stable source of income, then make it like a side hustle if you see that it is profitable.
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Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

In every profiteering areas such as investments , gambling or even in online job there are a scam luring meaning we are attracting scammers to put their skills and abilities to take our money.
so since you mentioned gambling as a professional career then I also assume that it is expected to have legit and scam site though lucky for me that I keep choosing only legitimate site that I never become a victim of those scammers .
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.
Yes maybe sports betting can be the best option for those who like to gamble and also they have more knowledge in sports, they can use that to be able to take wins through analyzing who or which team has the potential to be able to win the match and give us a win with the odds that the dealer give.
But of course not all matches go the way we want, even though it might bring together two teams that have stark differences. But the consideration is that our chances of winning at betting can be based on knowledge in sports, and don't forget that luck will also affect the outcome of the match.
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I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win a.......
If the house edge is eliminated, gamblers can survive based on their skills. The issue is that we often generalize gambling, assuming that gambling sites always have a house edge. However, not all games have a house edge. Take sports betting, for example, where you have the option to choose from different betting odds. If you possess skills in sports and have been gambling for 10 years, it could indicate that you have been successful in your endeavors.
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there are tons of people that i come across that dreamed to be professional in gambling world but they do not know what is the basic and that is how to control their attitude and eagerness .
because in the closing? they ended up being losers everytime.
Well, everyone is a loser because we all know that in gambling we will never skip of losing. But to those that have dreamed of becoming a professional gambler but they can't do what it takes to be one, they'll have hard time in dealing on it.

They'll face a lot of problems and losing of course.

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No pressure at all and just enjoying whenever I want to.
perfect way to gamble mate .
That's how it is, you gamble to have fun or make money but don't pressure yourself.

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And if there are gamblers that are thinking of going too much with their potentials, that's all up to them and they know what they're entering and it's not going to be easy for sure.
of course that is their money and they must care about it , but what they need to understand is how to have an attitude towards matter.

learn how to accept losses and how to control themselves .
Everything will be learned as we gamble, being patient, being decisive, being wise and other approaches that we're learning with the process and it's beneficial to every gambler that do realizes it.
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I would rather gamble to entertain myself than trying to walk my way up to some LVL on a casino, I believe this will get you addicted to gambling and you will easily lose your control over your rules and limits.

I don't blame those who have assumed gambling to be their major source of income because they are only left with such alternative to survive the economy hardship they might have been going through in their country, although that's not enough reasons to make such decision because the government cannot be fully responsible for our individual lives to ensure equal distribution of right and opportunities.

Professional gamblers? Are there any at all? The prevalence of expert gamblers are focusing on sports bets, because it's still better than some online casino games of luck, still they always lose money too, there is no way anyone won't lose money when gambling, this is not mathematics where all you need is calculations.

There's no professional anywhere everyone is just trying his luck to risk gambling maybe one of the two skills they've developed could help them have more upper chances of winning whenever they gambles.

Prevent yourself from going bankrupt, gambling should not be your source of daily bread, if you are not gambling to entertain yourself, you shouldn't be gambling.

That's true, that shouldn't be the last hope to have as a source of income to maintain a living, we can have as many as possible alternatives to help us meet up with the economy and family demands we could be facing each day of our life, if not we will be broke.
I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win and for this reason I don't think that there is a professional in online gambling. Today you might win because it is your lucky day,but do you know if tomorrow will be also a lucky day for you. I will say No because today is Tuesday and tomorrow is Wednesday,two different days and names,so likewise gambling. That is why gambler can depend on gambling as his only source of income that will not end up ruining his life.

The 'people who see the game as a source of income is something that they cannot do, first because being in a casino does not always guarantee an income, but it can cause the money that you have to play can be lost, it is not healthy to think that the casino is like a job, a casino is only for fun , earning money is only an option that is always available, but the money you have must be made Available to lose it and not multiply it.

People are always confused , they think that getting money from a casino is the easiest thing in the world, and it may be that at some point they can do it , but it is not a guarantee.
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Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.

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Although everything is an assumption, the adjective "assumed" leaves you with the advantage that if it is not true; what is not true?, what you leave in the assumption "that everyone here is bettors" because if so, and it is, I affirm it, not everyone here makes bets.

On the other hand, the moral issue leaves me in a dilemma, since any genuine bettor doesn't give a damn what a third party thinks, and even less from a moral point of view, in general, the genuine bettor are interested in probabilities. Then, his common sense is the main guide of that moral fact.
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The moral aspect does not only include a vice like betting includes life itself, so if someone makes a bet, they do not immoral, it makes him immoral if that money that he bets, even if it brings him fortune, is money that he cannot afford to lose.
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Any profession that does not qualify as routine, or rather, one that does not guarantee a fixed monthly income, enters the phase of what you call success and failure, that is, your question success or failure also fits very well.

So how to measure that, success or failure, a life variable regardless of what profession you work in, is always there, like the temperature +38°c failure, -37.5 °c success.

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You have been betting for 15 years, according to what I read, where you are today is determined by your mental, economic, social, family well-being, etc., not by the moral judgment of a third party, and/or not consequently referring to a simple result of winning or losing.

---:those three dashes means that each of these paragraphs could have been a single post, but if you understand them as a whole it would be fine.
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I would rather gamble to entertain myself than trying to walk my way up to some LVL on a casino, I believe this will get you addicted to gambling and you will easily lose your control over your rules and limits.

I don't blame those who have assumed gambling to be their major source of income because they are only left with such alternative to survive the economy hardship they might have been going through in their country, although that's not enough reasons to make such decision because the government cannot be fully responsible for our individual lives to ensure equal distribution of right and opportunities.

Professional gamblers? Are there any at all? The prevalence of expert gamblers are focusing on sports bets, because it's still better than some online casino games of luck, still they always lose money too, there is no way anyone won't lose money when gambling, this is not mathematics where all you need is calculations.

There's no professional anywhere everyone is just trying his luck to risk gambling maybe one of the two skills they've developed could help them have more upper chances of winning whenever they gambles.

Prevent yourself from going bankrupt, gambling should not be your source of daily bread, if you are not gambling to entertain yourself, you shouldn't be gambling.

That's true, that shouldn't be the last hope to have as a source of income to maintain a living, we can have as many as possible alternatives to help us meet up with the economy and family demands we could be facing each day of our life, if not we will be broke.
I can also say that those people who see gambling as the only alternative are lazy people,who believe in living in a world of fallacy,because there is no way that anyone can survive with gambling for ten years. The house edge always win and for this reason I don't think that there is a professional in online gambling. Today you might win because it is your lucky day,but do you know if tomorrow will be also a lucky day for you. I will say No because today is Tuesday and tomorrow is Wednesday,two different days and names,so likewise gambling. That is why gambler can depend on gambling as his only source of income that will not end up ruining his life.
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I would rather gamble to entertain myself than trying to walk my way up to some LVL on a casino, I believe this will get you addicted to gambling and you will easily lose your control over your rules and limits.

I don't blame those who have assumed gambling to be their major source of income because they are only left with such alternative to survive the economy hardship they might have been going through in their country, although that's not enough reasons to make such decision because the government cannot be fully responsible for our individual lives to ensure equal distribution of right and opportunities.

Professional gamblers? Are there any at all? The prevalence of expert gamblers are focusing on sports bets, because it's still better than some online casino games of luck, still they always lose money too, there is no way anyone won't lose money when gambling, this is not mathematics where all you need is calculations.

There's no professional anywhere everyone is just trying his luck to risk gambling maybe one of the two skills they've developed could help them have more upper chances of winning whenever they gambles.

Prevent yourself from going bankrupt, gambling should not be your source of daily bread, if you are not gambling to entertain yourself, you shouldn't be gambling.

That's true, that shouldn't be the last hope to have as a source of income to maintain a living, we can have as many as possible alternatives to help us meet up with the economy and family demands we could be facing each day of our life, if not we will be broke.
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I would rather gamble to entertain myself than trying to walk my way up to some LVL on a casino, I believe this will get you addicted to gambling and you will easily lose your control over your rules and limits.

Professional gamblers? Are there any at all? The prevalence of expert gamblers are focusing on sports bets, because it's still better than some online casino games of luck, still they always lose money too, there is no way anyone won't lose money when gambling, this is not mathematics where all you need is calculations.

Prevent yourself from going bankrupt, gambling should not be your source of daily bread, if you are not gambling to entertain yourself, you shouldn't be gambling.
Well, as long as they can restrain themselves from gambling beyond their limits, they won't get addicted to gambling and won't lose control of it. There must be professional gamblers around us but we won't know who they are because usually they hide their skills in front of people. And they are the ones who can make money compared to other people because they have better abilities.

We can only prevent losing more money because that is best for us. And we shouldn't make gambling a source of income because we don't have the skills as professional gamblers.
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The last line shows how important it is to have a sustainable way to earn money so it makes sense not looking gambling profits as income.

I don't know why people think gambling as a steady source of income.  Are they for real or just fooling themselves because they are lazy to look for a real job?
It is popular among third-world countries for a reason. These countries suffer from poverty and every $ makes a big difference in their lifestyle, they don't fool themselves but look for ways to make extra cash by doing some online activities. The same is true for surveys of pay-per-click websites. I can't blame these users but as mentioned before this is not the proper way to look at gambling as a side income.

I am from a developing country (third-world) and I find people addicted to gambling making excuses that they are gambling to earn so that they won't be pressured to look for real jobs.  All they care about was the entertainment and peers having fun in gambling and often times spend way more than what they earn.  I do not know how they can call it a source of income when often than not they spend more money than earning.
I know a lot of people from that category living around me, they simply can't resist it. Such people start gambling casually only for fun or some maybe start directly to earn money, as time goes by, they start becoming addicted and trying to make it a way of earning money, and this thing starts when someday they become profitable, so they assume that they can do that every day ignoring the fact that it is gambling.

Some people even take loans only to gamble because they don't have a job and they become so lazy because of gambling that they don't even try to work on something else to earn some money, they take loans, lose the money at gambling, take a loan from somewhere else and repay the first one, and they continue doing this until they get totally stacked up with the interests from those loans.
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I would rather gamble to entertain myself than trying to walk my way up to some LVL on a casino, I believe this will get you addicted to gambling and you will easily lose your control over your rules and limits.

Professional gamblers? Are there any at all? The prevalence of expert gamblers are focusing on sports bets, because it's still better than some online casino games of luck, still they always lose money too, there is no way anyone won't lose money when gambling, this is not mathematics where all you need is calculations.

Prevent yourself from going bankrupt, gambling should not be your source of daily bread, if you are not gambling to entertain yourself, you shouldn't be gambling.
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