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Quote from: TimeTeller on June 18, 2023, 03:59:40 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on June 18, 2023, 02:31:35 PM

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

This is the fact. Brutal but true. Ordinary people should stop gambling instantly. They will put themselfs and family in risk if keep gambling.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 17, 2023, 10:21:56 AM

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

Defeating the house in the long-term is impossible due to the house edge factor. What you stated is true only about the short-term since you could technically overcome the house edge in the short-term.

Quote from: kk5526682 on June 17, 2023, 09:51:53 PM

People who make a living on gambling have knowledge and know-how to deduct the influence of bad luck. Never easy. I just believe this kind of group exist and will grow bigger.

Lol. This is easily one of the dumbest statements that I have ever heard in my life. Luck is totally random newbie. Improve your brainpower!

Have no idea your educational background and no interest. You need improve your reading skills. Or just waste your time here. I got no problem on 'luck is totally random'. And I do not say anything on that. My point is professionals 'know-how' 'deduct' 'the influence' of bad luck. Simple words. Bad luck can happen to anyone. Ordinary people like you will lose all your cash at hand if you gamble that day. Professionals get the same bad luck, they may lose 10% of the cash at hand. Whose brainpower need to improve now? This is the last time I response on such useless post. Have a good day.

I believe that there is no such thing as beating the house, it is something that does not make any sense to me, I think that when you risk things like casinos , you have to see how much you are going to spend, because no matter how good Whether in a casino it is not possible to be winning so much and in the long run I think that things are more difficult, what I think is that in the long term the most probable thing for one as a player is to lose , I don't know anyone who is winning at a casino , for this Reason is that in the long term what can be achieved is to lose and lose , I don't know if someone thinks like me or am I wrong?.

Every person have their own boundries. From parents, husband/wife, school, friends, workmates or strangers like the pretty lady who serves you at your farourite restaurant, another is reading, travling and so on, my point is all of us have the limit. You are not wrong brother. Just believe we live in a super big and diverse world. I wrote 'No Judge' at first of major content. This is the reason. We can't judge the things we never know. Even you think you know, but the whole picture may not the way you think. I would like to stay humble always.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on June 18, 2023, 02:31:35 PM

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

HaHa, can't agree more. Innocence is shown no mercy in gambling. So many kids (including 60 yrs old first-time gambler）take gambling as a easy moeny game. Because the gambling system designed super friendly to new guys. They can win easily when know nothing about gambling. If they keep gamble, that will be another story. Sad.

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Quote from: so98nn on June 18, 2023, 01:50:22 PM

I barely doubt gambling can become income source for us. It’s most riskiest way to make money and it may not run in our favour for very long period of time. In my gambling experiences of 4-5 years I have lost more money than what I have won. I mean I am happy I won many bets, some were very good and I have also cashed them out but obviously when I put my money back into gambling it was nightmare. You see there is cycle of winning and losing when it comes to the gambling and it’s losses that is dominant (in my opinion). I am not sure what other thinks about it but always remember gambling is a bet of your hard earned money better play with it only until it is nice with you.

All people know the knowledge to wear flip-flops and shorts in Summer and cotton-padded jacket in winter. But when people become gamblers, they are just doing in opposite. They can use 1million to chase 100 bucks lose and can't use 100 bucks to chase 1million dollars win. When they lose money, all of them prefer to withdrawl money to keep fighting even they know they are in bad luck at the moment. But, if they win $100, they wiil be so happy and go to play with the money. And they call it stop-win. This is totally wrong about the definition of 'stop-win'. In my opinion, stop-win is not depending on the amount of the cash, depends on the timing when you feel or get the signal you think your good luck will be the end. This is called stop-win. Winter is coming!!

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Quote from: blockman on June 17, 2023, 05:24:19 PM

This is like an extended topic of discussion about gambling being a source of income. While we all know that professional gamblers' source of major income is gambling. Many are just doing it part-time and even for fun. We can't just defeat our own thinking on this matter because we all know that we can't be like those professional gamblers. It took them a lot of time, sweat and blood to become one and people think that it's easy to be on that state but I am sure that it's not easier as what we think.

Right. You pay/get what you believe/do. Ignore all unnecessary stuff, maybe you can understand why I think pure gambling is truly fair for everyone. Think about the 50/50 game deeply brother.

Yeah, I understand it and that's why I do like those gamblers that are really doing it and they're showing their losses and not just their wins.
They know more about us and they know how they'll tackle the bad days when they're not doing well. I'm trying to understand why you think pure gambling is fair and probably that's really it is and even there will be people that will be against it, still at the end of the day you know what you're believing and why others won't understand it.

Happy to explain more here. We are the human beings not machines. Even we just sit there doing nothing, there are so many ideas produced in mind again and again. But pure gambling is just 50/50 game. Let's assume you play Baccarat Only one time. Player and Banker, you can choose any side. No matter other gamblers or casino boss, they have same win chance as you. Simple and easy. Ignore the cheating stuff. Casinos with license won't cheat any one of us.

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Quote from: kk5526682 on June 17, 2023, 02:02:33 AM

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source.

I made sure I had no other options to make money so leading to this plan, it would probably be worth it if I started to find out what a professional gambler really is. So many "pros" teach gaming strategies that most are just casino marketers after the trail.

Maybe there is a professional who sincerely shares some of the winning secrets. But, as good as they read the odds of winning, basically being a professional like them is only a possibility, while the necessities of life are a certainty.

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Quote from: letteredhub on June 18, 2023, 11:02:44 AM

Quote from: kk5526682 on June 17, 2023, 02:02:33 AM

Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

No hard feelings! Anyone can decide to go professional about his gambling attitude so long as it's paying off for such a person based on the strategies he's using. But let's make one subtle thing clear, and that is, many of these professional gamblers that takes gambling as a source of income also have extra sources of income too. Those sources they may not flag up as they do with their gambling but a few of us knows that apart from gambling there's back up source to their finances. For instance, the former owner of Chelsea football club we know him to be a professional gambler but he also has another sources of income despite him making some huge money from gambling.

I won't argue with that. But I am sure this is not only fact about professional gamblers. In my opinion, most of pros have no other source of income, this is the major reason why these people gamble for a living.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 18, 2023, 10:57:33 AM

If you have the idea of how much you'll win or lose then that's the better way of gambling. Because if you lose, that's okay and that is because you know what you're losing.

And as you gamble, you know how much you can potentially gain so you'll gamble and try it. But Bob, you can't stop most gamblers because it's all about the money.

Whilst it's like that you're against the idea, everyone wants to win and take the money with them.

Brother, this is the fact am talking and talking and talking about self-control. YOU MUST DECIDE AND FOLLOW THE WIN AND LOSS LIMIT BEFORE GAMBLING. Then do the best to fight for it. This is why it is Super hard to become a pro. I have supplyed details on Update 2 and 3 on major content. This is the only way with hope to be them.

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Quote from: kk5526682 on June 17, 2023, 02:02:33 AM

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.
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Well, being professional in gambling, arguably, requires skill. People which I think that can only be called professionals (in terms of gambling) are those gamblers who plays skill-based games such as poker. Surely, slots is out as it is purely random and most are pre-determined, AFAIK.

Unless you posses great talent with skill-based games, you should not see gambling as a source of income.

I agree. Your post is the words I would like to see and share here. Pros would like to take gambling as objective as possible. They must work hard and cautious to choose game. If gamblers have biased opinion on any games before play, they put themselfs under negative situation already.

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Gambling as the major income is really bad. For some time period it'll give consistent winning, which can be out of luck/skills. Over time surely there'll be loss that need to be experienced. This is where most of the gamblers start losing and turns out to be victim of gambling addiction. Right person have patience or take a break. Depending on gambling for one's major income is a complete failure, because we aren't working we're relying on something. For them it is business, they look for profit and not loss.

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Quote from: AbuBhakar on June 18, 2023, 10:05:56 AM

Bankroll size and management is the greatest weapon if you want to stay in gambling longer but there’s really no guarantee to have a consistent profit as source of income since you already said that bad luck always come. At some point. These professionals will encounter it and bust them even after their long winning streak.

It's the worst that can happen to any gambler we gamblers want to avoid this, and we can only do this if we know when to quit and how to quit, this is where chasing our losses mentality starts when we are already winning and we get busted.

Bad luck and house edge contribute to this we know this from the start but dopamine keeps us playing we always want to keep up when dopamine is at its highest whether we are winning or losing.

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Quote from: seleme on June 18, 2023, 04:06:05 PM

Quote from: TimeTeller on June 18, 2023, 03:59:40 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on June 18, 2023, 02:31:35 PM

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

The last line shows how important it is to have a sustainable way to earn money so it makes sense not looking gambling profits as income. It may sound good to have the extra money in your pocket but after a few months, the loss streaks may put you in trouble that can affect your personal life conditions. The survival ratio is very low in the gambling business, so I also advise many gamblers to take a break and think the other ways to prevent gambling addiction. Otherwise, the ending may become similar to homeless people who lost everything due to being addicted to the gambling industry. Most casinos try to not share such info but it is a true and proven statement, unfortunately.

Gambling could never fit out as a side income
- It cant be considered to make it is as a living
- It cant be considered to make you rich
- It cant be considered for it to save you in poverty
- It cant be a sustainable way of living

If people would really be just realizing on how things should really be approached, then they wouldn't really be finding out themselves into the pit of addiction and into the pit
of debt and other money related problems because this is where gamblers do usually ended up with.

Making it as an income would really be giving you that 101% failure because entertainment and leisure thing isnt something that would not fit out on earning income.
People should realize this in the first place.

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Quote from: seleme on June 18, 2023, 04:06:05 PM

The last line shows how important it is to have a sustainable way to earn money so it makes sense not looking gambling profits as income.

I don't know why people think gambling as a steady source of income. Are they for real or just fooling themselves because they are lazy to look for a real job?

Quote from: seleme on June 18, 2023, 04:06:05 PM

It may sound good to have the extra money in your pocket but after a few months, the loss streaks may put you in trouble that can affect your personal life conditions. The survival ratio is very low in the gambling business, so I also advise many gamblers to take a break and think the other ways to prevent gambling addiction. Otherwise, the ending may become similar to homeless people who lost everything due to being addicted to the gambling industry. Most casinos try to not share such info but it is a true and proven statement, unfortunately.

That is why instead of relying on gambling to earn money, we better look for a stable additional source of income. this way we can have money to support our gambling activity and at the same time we have enough to buy what we need.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on June 18, 2023, 03:59:40 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on June 18, 2023, 02:31:35 PM

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

The last line shows how important it is to have a sustainable way to earn money so it makes sense not looking gambling profits as income. It may sound good to have the extra money in your pocket but after a few months, the loss streaks may put you in trouble that can affect your personal life conditions. The survival ratio is very low in the gambling business, so I also advise many gamblers to take a break and think the other ways to prevent gambling addiction. Otherwise, the ending may become similar to homeless people who lost everything due to being addicted to the gambling industry. Most casinos try to not share such info but it is a true and proven statement, unfortunately.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on June 18, 2023, 02:31:35 PM

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

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Quote from: kk5526682 on June 18, 2023, 08:12:39 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on June 18, 2023, 12:40:20 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on June 17, 2023, 10:21:56 AM

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

Defeating the house in the long-term is impossible due to the house edge factor. What you stated is true only about the short-term since you could technically overcome the house edge in the short-term.

Quote from: kk5526682 on June 17, 2023, 09:51:53 PM

People who make a living on gambling have knowledge and know-how to deduct the influence of bad luck. Never easy. I just believe this kind of group exist and will grow bigger.

Lol. This is easily one of the dumbest statements that I have ever heard in my life. Luck is totally random newbie. Improve your brainpower!

Have no idea your educational background and no interest. You need improve your reading skills. Or just waste your time here. I got no problem on 'luck is totally random'. And I do not say anything on that. My point is professionals 'know-how' 'deduct' 'the influence' of bad luck. Simple words. Bad luck can happen to anyone. Ordinary people like you will lose all your cash at hand if you gamble that day. Professionals get the same bad luck, they may lose 10% of the cash at hand. Whose brainpower need to improve now? This is the last time I response on such useless post. Have a good day.

I believe that there is no such thing as beating the house, it is something that does not make any sense to me, I think that when you risk things like casinos , you have to see how much you are going to spend, because no matter how good Whether in a casino it is not possible to be winning so much and in the long run I think that things are more difficult, what I think is that in the long term the most probable thing for one as a player is to lose , I don't know anyone who is winning at a casino , for this Reason is that in the long term what can be achieved is to lose and lose , I don't know if someone thinks like me or am I wrong?.

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*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

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I barely doubt gambling can become income source for us. It’s most riskiest way to make money and it may not run in our favour for very long period of time. In my gambling experiences of 4-5 years I have lost more money than what I have won. I mean I am happy I won many bets, some were very good and I have also cashed them out but obviously when I put my money back into gambling it was nightmare. You see there is cycle of winning and losing when it comes to the gambling and it’s losses that is dominant (in my opinion). I am not sure what other thinks about it but always remember gambling is a bet of your hard earned money better play with it only until it is nice with you.

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Quote from: kk5526682 on June 18, 2023, 06:08:32 AM

Quote from: blockman on June 17, 2023, 05:24:19 PM

This is like an extended topic of discussion about gambling being a source of income. While we all know that professional gamblers' source of major income is gambling. Many are just doing it part-time and even for fun. We can't just defeat our own thinking on this matter because we all know that we can't be like those professional gamblers. It took them a lot of time, sweat and blood to become one and people think that it's easy to be on that state but I am sure that it's not easier as what we think.

Right. You pay/get what you believe/do. Ignore all unnecessary stuff, maybe you can understand why I think pure gambling is truly fair for everyone. Think about the 50/50 game deeply brother.

Yeah, I understand it and that's why I do like those gamblers that are really doing it and they're showing their losses and not just their wins.
They know more about us and they know how they'll tackle the bad days when they're not doing well. I'm trying to understand why you think pure gambling is fair and probably that's really it is and even there will be people that will be against it, still at the end of the day you know what you're believing and why others won't understand it.

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Quote from: kk5526682 on June 18, 2023, 08:12:39 AM

Have no idea your educational background and no interest. You need improve your reading skills. Or just waste your time here. I got no problem on 'luck is totally random'. And I do not say anything on that. My point is professionals 'know-how' 'deduct' 'the influence' of bad luck. Simple words. Bad luck can happen to anyone. Ordinary people like you will lose all your cash at hand if you gamble that day. Professionals get the same bad luck, they may lose 10% of the cash at hand. Whose brainpower need to improve now? This is the last time I response on such useless post. Have a good day.

But how do you determine if someone is a pro or not on game that is based on luck? It’s either they are just lucky on guessing or they have a good bankroll management that makes them stay on the game without being busted.

Bankroll size and management is the greatest weapon if you want to stay in gambling longer but there’s really no guarantee to have a consistent profit as source of income since you already said that bad luck always come. At some point. These professionals will encounter it and bust them even after their long winning streak.

The law or rule of nature also applys in gambling because no one can be always consistentl in having series of winning without ever encountering lose or disappointment at some stage or level. Gambling is never guaranteed as a source and their is pro when it comes to gambling because at the long run of your whole gambling career if you would actually get some to calculate the ratio of your profits to your loss you would fine out that the losses are more than the wins.

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