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sr. member
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July 07, 2014, 06:02:42 PM
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full member
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July 06, 2014, 10:10:29 AM
I've voted NAV

CODE has a special relationship with NAVAJO; however, CODE just sounds too technical to me and doesn't sound like a mainstream currency name.  I want this to go mainstream.
sr. member
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July 06, 2014, 06:04:43 AM
Voted for point -3- Navajo Code Coin and as ticker it would be nice to have NCC ^^ - just my personal opinion.

and donated some coins for this great project  Smiley

regards
hero member
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July 06, 2014, 04:19:13 AM

We do like your explanation and it is very reasonable. However we already had a first round in which codecoin was a contender and lost by a very large margin to Navajo. N-Code (can be written simply as NCode) is a viable option and it will be added now.


Many thanks, voted.
sr. member
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July 06, 2014, 03:14:06 AM

We cannot make it none of the above as we need something for the name and denomination. What we can do is add your suggestion. So please submit a suggestion and it will be added.


Were two other possible names already mentioned above, and not from me.

One was CodeCoin (Code), indicated by BigBlind and GreedyJohn, the other
is N-Code by Borin.

Both can have as an abbreviation for the word CODE, as already used in the source, and maintain in
the name the word "Code", who likes to Cienki7 for the reference to the "code of honor" but also points
out the main feature you choose for this coin, that encodes a transaction.

If you want, you could see in N-Code, as well as the abbreviation of Navajo-Code (or the New-Code,
Next-Code), the sound of ENCODE, two meanings that would immediately pass on a subconscious level,
and it has the advantage of preserving the large N of the logo.

In addition, both do not directly refer to a single nation or ethnic group,
like too many other scam-coin from the small value and short live.

However, as has already been rightly said, a name identifies the product, a small nuance can create different
feelings, IMHO a name should be chosen among many possible candidates after long reflection.

So my request for a "None of the above", just needed to have the opportunity to vote to give everyone more
time to imagine some other name better.

PS:
However, it would not be bad at all "None of the above" or "No Name Coin", as a name for other CryptoCoin, it would be a very
alternative name. Cheesy
Just a joke.


We do like your explanation and it is very reasonable. However we already had a first round in which codecoin was a contender and lost by a very large margin to Navajo. N-Code (can be written simply as NCode) is a viable option and it will be added now.
hero member
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July 06, 2014, 02:41:27 AM

We cannot make it none of the above as we need something for the name and denomination. What we can do is add your suggestion. So please submit a suggestion and it will be added.


Were two other possible names already mentioned above, and not from me.

One was CodeCoin (Code), indicated by BigBlind and GreedyJohn, the other
is N-Code by Borin.

Both can have as an abbreviation for the word CODE, as already used in the source, and maintain in
the name the word "Code", who likes to Cienki7 for the reference to the "code of honor" but also points
out the main feature you choose for this coin, that encodes a transaction.

If you want, you could see in N-Code, as well as the abbreviation of Navajo-Code (or the New-Code,
Next-Code), the sound of ENCODE, two meanings that would immediately pass on a subconscious level,
and it has the advantage of preserving the large N of the logo.

In addition, both do not directly refer to a single nation or ethnic group,
like too many other scam-coin from the small value and short live.

However, as has already been rightly said, a name identifies the product, a small nuance can create different
feelings, IMHO a name should be chosen among many possible candidates after long reflection.

So my request for a "None of the above", just needed to have the opportunity to vote to give everyone more
time to imagine some other name better.

PS:
However, it would not be bad at all "None of the above" or "No Name Coin", as a name for other CryptoCoin, it would be a very
alternative name. Cheesy
Just a joke.
sr. member
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July 06, 2014, 01:17:04 AM

UPDATE:

A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.

Sorry to be so annoying, but I would respectfully ask how to vote for "Change, but none of the above"?
Smiley

I would not annoy you more on why.


We cannot make it none of the above as we need something for the name and denomination. What we can do is add your suggestion. So please submit a suggestion and it will be added.
member
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July 05, 2014, 10:31:22 PM
English is not my native lang, so I don`t feel anything wrong with selling 10000 Navajo(coin)s  Grin
hero member
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July 05, 2014, 10:19:15 PM
Yea Nav should be kept as the denomination. The idea that the name can garner disrespect is just subjective. The same 'offensive' interpretation can be applied to a lot of coins, blackcoin, whitecoin, isracoin, etc.
legendary
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July 05, 2014, 10:05:44 PM
We already have a big N as our symbol, I feel that NAV would be better.
legendary
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July 05, 2014, 10:01:16 PM
The whole issue is trickish,
CODE sends a strong message and is stylish, but NAV is easier for the general public.

I will vote for NAV.
hero member
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July 05, 2014, 07:29:40 PM

UPDATE:

A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.

Sorry to be so annoying, but I would respectfully ask how to vote for "Change, but none of the above"?
Smiley

I would not annoy you more on why.
legendary
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July 05, 2014, 07:27:20 PM
What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
I like this idea! Sounds great imo, the right connection.
 I agree, I think all the other suggestions pale in comparison to this!!  Code makes one think of Honor, the complete opposite of anything one could be offended about.  There's some good NLP in this name I think:-)
legendary
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July 05, 2014, 07:02:26 PM
What about Navajo Code as a coin name and CODE as denomination?
I like this idea! Sounds great imo, the right connection.
hero member
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July 05, 2014, 06:45:31 PM


In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow?

Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue?



In the design there are three parts that contribute to the anonymity: The nodes, the Navajo "magic" gateway, and the choctaw "star" gate. The Navajo "magic" gateway and the choctaw "star" gate have always and still are fully decentralised. However, in the initial design the Nodes were centralised and were going to be setup by the dev exclusively while in the new version the nodes are decentralised making the whole process 100% decentralised. Anybody will be able to setup a node now.


Ahh... I see.
That was the reason why I said 33%.

Now is more clear, and i can understand.

So, in this manner you solved a serious potential issue.

Many thanks for the your explain.
sr. member
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July 05, 2014, 06:35:38 PM
                                      Discussion

     We have been thinking of changing the denominations of Navajo Coin from Nav to Code. The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people. E.G. I want to buy from you 10 Navajos.. We would rather change it into codes and keep the coin name as Navajo. It might not be intuitive and may confuse some at the beginning but we believe it is not such a big problem and that the former problem (Navajo denominations) is much bigger.

Please let us know what you think

Best Regards,

SUM2Devs

UPDATE:

A poll has been started. Please vote and let us know why.
sr. member
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July 05, 2014, 06:24:10 PM

1)Thank you very much for your kind review , at first the Drop Down list was the one in my mind but having one will only contain the users to a set of Nodes which they can feel unsecure about , since I have made drastic changes to the aspect of Decentralized Anonymity the users will have the liberty of choosing their own node despite all

2) Yes the users will have access to a similar feature in the new client , you will be able to see updates on the next set of sneak peaks.

PS: With the new changes it should be 100% Decentralized Anonymity.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


Thanks for the reply. I hope the getting a different point of view can help you.

I will wait the new sneak peaks.

Regarding the "drastic changes to the appearance of decentralized anonymity" and "100% decentralized",
i'm sorry, don't understand.

Did you have abandoned the idea of "Magic" and the "Star gate" gateway?

In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow?

Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue?



In the design there are three parts that contribute to the anonymity: The nodes, the Navajo "magic" gateway, and the choctaw "star" gate. The Navajo "magic" gateway and the choctaw "star" gate have always and still are fully decentralised. However, in the initial design the Nodes were centralised and were going to be setup by the dev exclusively while in the new version the nodes are decentralised making the whole process 100% decentralised. Anybody will be able to setup a node now.
hero member
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July 05, 2014, 06:20:47 PM

To be honest I don't see a problem at all.
Or to put it another way, if the name Navajo is the source of the problem, changing the denomination from NAV to CODE will not fix it

But if anyone is still concerned, what about NCC (Navajo Code Coin)?

ROTFL Great.

Please send me NCC 1701, No bloody A, B, C, or D.   Cheesy Cheesy

Sincerely thank you, has been a rough day, I needed a good laugh. Smiley


Apart from the joke, as stated before:
"The reason is that is not very politically correct and might offend some people."

IMHO, the simpler solution is change both name and denomination, and eventually
maintain the Navajo Code only for the core technology name.


hero member
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July 05, 2014, 06:08:48 PM

1)Thank you very much for your kind review , at first the Drop Down list was the one in my mind but having one will only contain the users to a set of Nodes which they can feel unsecure about , since I have made drastic changes to the aspect of Decentralized Anonymity the users will have the liberty of choosing their own node despite all

2) Yes the users will have access to a similar feature in the new client , you will be able to see updates on the next set of sneak peaks.

PS: With the new changes it should be 100% Decentralized Anonymity.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


Thanks for the reply. I hope the getting a different point of view can help you.

I will wait the new sneak peaks.

Regarding the "drastic changes to the appearance of decentralized anonymity" and "100% decentralized",
i'm sorry, don't understand.

Did you have abandoned the idea of "Magic" and the "Star gate" gateway?

In other words, did you redesigned the whitepaper/data flow?

Sorry to ask, without disclose all the detail, can you give us some clue?

legendary
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July 05, 2014, 05:31:47 PM
People will not be trading Navajos but Navajocoins. They might in short call them Nav or Navs which is OK
I never thought I was trading in summers until now

To be honest I don't see a problem at all.
Or to put it another way, if the name Navajo is the source of the problem, changing the denomination from NAV to CODE will not fix it

But if anyone is still concerned, what about NCC (Navajo Code Coin)?
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