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sr. member
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November 16, 2013, 02:30:32 PM
What do people do?

Ok, everything else put aside...this is my first venture into bitcoin mining. I'd like to mine for as long as I can. What does everyone else do out there when their hashing power just isn't enough?

you could roll over your mining profits for solar panels...  then you can keep mining forever and also save on the rest of your use

I will do more research next spring...  like the looks of those solar shingles.  perhaps a next gen of those will be really good
sr. member
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November 16, 2013, 02:24:43 PM

]Well, I totally understand.  I also was hoping to "snap up" a few more boards...   as were alot of folks...   but I also understand that we are now into November delivery territory, and they are needing to put October behind them...
I feel pretty lucky to have been able to get a couple Nov's squeezed in.
The demand for KNC products is VERY high now.

I agree..  you getting the new Nov design soon is nice, either way we are all winning.  

I 'needed' the extra two modules so when the next diffs hit I will still be over the 1 BTC a day club...  very psychological for me  Smiley  I should be safe until mid Dec
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November 16, 2013, 02:16:41 PM
*You should be thankful that O'rama was nice enough to let us know!!!

Is this something to be thankful for?  Huh
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November 16, 2013, 02:11:24 PM
What do people do?

Ok, everything else put aside...this is my first venture into bitcoin mining. I'd like to mine for as long as I can. What does everyone else do out there when their hashing power just isn't enough? I'm sure at one point everyone has to make a decision to buy/invest more or opt out. The thing that I see is the time from purchasing to making that decision is MUCH shorter then it use to be. I'm sure there are GPU miners here going for over a year here. I doubt I'll ever get to mine my Saturn for a year and have a return. What does normally everyone do? Discard their old mining hardware and dump another few thousand into new gear? Just keep adding to what they have already? Because if you look on the horizon you are going to need at least 1Th/s rig to be in the ball game here. And those rigs are priced about $5000 or more right now. Someone that bought a Saturn is never going to break even then be able to make $5k, so what does that miner do? Back out? Dump more money? I'm kind of curious as to what long term miners have done.

I posted this in this forum because it will apply to all our first gen Saturn and Jupiter owners. While some of you are adding hash power to what you already had there are a lot of us being first time mining buyers here. There is no big pay day at the end....and if we are only buying to break end 2-3 months down the road and then no return it kind of throws up red flags to stop and think hard about the next decision on where our money goes. Maybe we can talk about this, rather then no news KNC.

You could mine alt coins, they will still be profitable against BTC in the future. Beyond that who knows.. I have no doubt something will come up to use them for.

If nothing else you could sell to me for cheap Wink
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November 16, 2013, 02:10:47 PM
You know, if people would buy a BTC or 2 when they place these orders, by the time their orders arrive they could sell the BTC and make a profit (based on the past few months' performance). Then you've made some money back during the wait, and "all would be well".

I mean, I understand the frustration, but the mining game isn't necessarily one for folks to be in if they're going to bite their nails over a day or 2 delay. Not saying it doesn't suck.. but c'mon. This isn't BFL where you're waiting quarters and half centuries, this is a few days delay.

Ya'll should be happy, I couldn't even buy a module for my mercury.
legendary
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Personal text my ass....
November 16, 2013, 02:09:38 PM
What do people do?

Ok, everything else put aside...this is my first venture into bitcoin mining. I'd like to mine for as long as I can. What does everyone else do out there when their hashing power just isn't enough? I'm sure at one point everyone has to make a decision to buy/invest more or opt out. The thing that I see is the time from purchasing to making that decision is MUCH shorter then it use to be. I'm sure there are GPU miners here going for over a year here. I doubt I'll ever get to mine my Saturn for a year and have a return. What does normally everyone do? Discard their old mining hardware and dump another few thousand into new gear? Just keep adding to what they have already? Because if you look on the horizon you are going to need at least 1Th/s rig to be in the ball game here. And those rigs are priced about $5000 or more right now. Someone that bought a Saturn is never going to break even then be able to make $5k, so what does that miner do? Back out? Dump more money? I'm kind of curious as to what long term miners have done.

I posted this in this forum because it will apply to all our first gen Saturn and Jupiter owners. While some of you are adding hash power to what you already had there are a lot of us being first time mining buyers here. There is no big pay day at the end....and if we are only buying to break end 2-3 months down the road and then no return it kind of throws up red flags to stop and think hard about the next decision on where our money goes. Maybe we can talk about this, rather then no news KNC.
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let's have some fun
legendary
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November 16, 2013, 02:01:12 PM
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


***This is getting really, really old...
Jumping on every little detail O'rama says...
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque.
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


Phoenix, some people just don't like being lied to. It is called ethics in the business world. People actually go to jail for being unethical in the business world. I'm not saying anyone from KNC should go to jail, I'm saying this is how important it is to supply the correct information. Some people can't sit online in the forums 24/7 like you can and read every update and post there is....but if there was a notice about them being shipped late I missed it. Also that notice SHOULD have went in the same spot where the modules were first announced, the KNC forums news area. That's what should of happened.
There is a difference between a lie, and a change of plans. You are twisting the situation to fit the argument. Take a pill or something.

*You should be thankful that O'rama was nice enough to let us know!!!
hero member
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November 16, 2013, 02:01:02 PM
Anyone has their batch 2 Jupiters tracking number yet?

Don't expect anything at least for another week.
legendary
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LIR DEV
November 16, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I didn't like the news either btw....

im just angry i bought an "upgradable" miner, and now thats untrue. they have changed designs and im fucked.
Well, I totally understand.  I also was hoping to "snap up" a few more boards...   as were alot of folks...   but I also understand that we are now into November delivery territory, and they are needing to put October behind them...
I feel pretty lucky to have been able to get a couple Nov's squeezed in.
The demand for KNC products is VERY high now.
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einc.io
November 16, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
Anyone has their batch 2 Jupiters tracking number yet?
legendary
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Personal text my ass....
November 16, 2013, 01:56:22 PM
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


***This is getting really, really old...
Jumping on every little detail O'rama says...
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque.
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


Phoenix, some people just don't like being lied to. It is called ethics in the business world. People actually go to jail for being unethical in the business world. I'm not saying anyone from KNC should go to jail, I'm saying this is how important it is to supply the correct information. Some people can't sit online in the forums 24/7 like you can and read every update and post there is....but if there was a notice about them being shipped late I missed it. Also that notice SHOULD have went in the same spot where the modules were first announced, the KNC forums news area. That's what should of happened.
hero member
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November 16, 2013, 01:52:24 PM
Hey 'Orama!

Some tuning for the september-october ones? Not much, just 15%...    Grin

And a list of how to please
sr. member
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Hell?
November 16, 2013, 01:52:16 PM
keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I didn't like the news either btw....

im just angry i bought an "upgradable" miner, and now thats untrue. they have changed designs and im fucked.
sr. member
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Hell?
November 16, 2013, 01:51:08 PM
keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

oh no no, its nothing personal with orama. he has attempted to help me recently actually and tipped him for trying. its just now hes basically the pr side of the company and basically the only one we hear from now, so stuff usually gets directed at him.
legendary
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LIR DEV
November 16, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.
I realize emotions run high...   Myself included. I just think it's unfair to vent so hard on the guy that keeps us informed the most.
Don't kill the messenger!   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I didn't like the news either btw....
hero member
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November 16, 2013, 01:46:58 PM
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


im just going by what sam posted on the site as well....
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?
Situations change = plans change = you were notified.
Not misinformation, this is called "Keeping you updated"


Again, I am happy with the time it took from Sale to collection/delivery.
I'm just pointing out that if a company is not 100% sure they can keep a promise, then don't make it.
sr. member
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Hell?
November 16, 2013, 01:44:54 PM
keeping you updated = we change whatever the hell we want. lol

only in the bitcoin community with such a lack of competition can they get away with whatever they want. sigh.

ps. since i bought a knc product, i think its fine for me to complain and vent here.
legendary
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LIR DEV
November 16, 2013, 01:43:14 PM
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


im just going by what sam posted on the site as well....
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?
Situations change = plans change = you were notified.
Not misinformation, this is called "Keeping you updated"
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Hell?
November 16, 2013, 01:42:39 PM
umm yes there is a delay, you said they would ship this week, then changed that to monday.... thats a delay.

Sam specifically said this week, " The Boards will ship out this week directly from our offices in Stockholm". Come on KNC, you are getting shabbier and shabbier looking like a place run by a bunch of kids.


*This is getting really, really old... Jumping on every detail O'rama says.
It really makes you look like a Crested Macaque
He friggin' works there, and just updated the info to you...
I guess you will find out which is right, won't you?
Doggonit.


The KNC giving misleading information is indeed getting old. You would think that they would have taken their "15th October Dealine" promise as a lesson and learn not to give us specific dates if they can't stick to them. I mean why would you state something if you are not sure you can make it?

also, its ok for a first come first serve method when buying the module, but shipping them...they all get sent at once....double standards. making a big deal of who paid first, they should ship those people who paid first too.... selective business practices. lol
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