If they had the chips, they would be shipping.
Why would you expect KnC to get the chips, then just sit on their ass for a month doing nothing? They will begin shipping as soon as they have the chips. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
Because BFL started shipping as soon as they got the chips, derp?
Bullshit, BLF started realizing that their chips were nowhere's near their promised efficiency levels as soon as they got the chips. and at some point the "Two more weeks" broken record response got dropped at which point, everyone finally found out that they had reorder all the cases / heatsinks/ powersupplies to deal address their poor planning and overly optimistic calculation...
It doesn't take a brain surgeon for anyone to learn from this mistake and it definitely isn't confidential knowledge. and I would bet good money that KNC ether A. Has the chips but is tweaking / testing quietly and wants to make absolutely sure none of these things come back for some BS problem that could have been fixed with alittle debugging or B. does not have it yet and is simply over-engineering the hell outta the components to ensure that the ancillary components don't need to be trashed if the initial parameters are off.
Ether way, BFL most definitely DID NOT start shipping as soon as they got the chips, if anything they were sitting on them awaiting boards/etc because of the Screwup -The fact that you are even comparing the two is retarded.
So.
You don't get sarcasm. No biggie.
But tell me, do you think all the big kids are just wasting time with with sample runs? Now that KNC has learned from BFL's mistakes, do you suppose they'll even bother testing the boards before shipping? It's in the bag, amirite?
Sorry, guess sarcasm don't come through very clear over the internets
I doubt anyone is wasting time with sample runs at this point, the fact that difficulty is skyrocketing, it would almost be financial suicide to do so, At this point, the only valid concern that I see is what happens if they get it wrong (with the chip design). To be honest, this is the biggest concern I have with KNC, considering they went straight for what essentially is a rocket run on the chip (Correct me if I missed something here).
We all have to cross our fingers that the chips don't end up paperweights. As for the testing of the boards, I would have to imagine they definitely will have to test the boards to ensure that they aren't sending out Uber Mega sized paperweights, hence the FPGA in the board pictures they released.
As for whether its in the bag or not... I don't know, however they have done a damn fine job so far in trying to cover as many shortfalls as possible, and that speaks alot in my opinion.
Thus, I'll withhold judgement until then end of September for that one.