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Well now to be fair, you have to read the entire article.  Later in the article he "explains' the "lie":

This is where the lie comes into the picture. The video they uploaded to Youtube actually shows a significantly faster product than what they promised customers.

We said from the beginning that our product would do 350 GHz. Then, we went out and said that we had made some adjustments and gotten our chips to be faster. We did things like this a few times, says Andreas Kennemar.

We always knew that the chips would be faster. We lied to make customers happy and to confuse competitors. They didn t know where we d set the bar.


Well to be fair, that is a lie too.

Their jupiter launch video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFOcI8nK2xI) clearly stated where their bar was:

"It's a 500 machine"
500GH/s
Then a week or so later they insisted if you got 400GH, that was all you were entitled to, even after their launch video promising 500GH/s+.

So they were liars in the sense of NOT delivering what they promised, i.e. liars

I'll remind you for the 7 millionth time of this gem of knc's not-too-distant-past.

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Hi,
 
We understand your concern regarding your miner not performing as well as others, however as your hash rate is higher than 400GH/s we cannot issue a RMA. We are continuously working on the firmware to improve performance and stability.
 
If you have any further questions or issues please do not hesitate in contacting us.  
 
Best regards  | Med vänlig hälsning  
Keith Gurnett  
Kncminer
www.kncminer.com
Office: +46 8559 253 20


So they just lied to people, nothing more or less. Like the lie of claiming they would deliever all units by Oct 15th, even though they knew from the beginning of October they could never achieve that. And a million others if I could be bothered to dig them out.

And I noted 3 other lies knc told to decieve customers above, please address those too if you wish to defend KNC's policy of deceipt.
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Are you sure its not the zipties?  ;-)

 It's the zip ties...
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Liam told me today that batch 1 started shipping this week and the last orders from batch 1 will be sent out on Monday. Nothing shipped Tuesday. So from what they are saying batch 1 will be built and shipped over approx. 6 days with the 4th and 5th days being Sat/Sun; so half of batch 1 will have been sent by close of business tonight.
Well if someone from KNC told you, then it has to be the truth  Grin

"As we are getting closer to the launch date of Neptune"

February 2014 Newsletter:
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To make sure that everyone who has paid for their Neptune gets their hashing power we are building a data centre like no other. It is located in the north of Sweden not far from Facebook and other Mega Data Centres and it’s totally powered by renewable energy.
 
Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a **completely free** hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers.

http://www.va.se/special/knc-miner-631834
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The bitcoin fever, just as other gold rushes, has occasionally been chaotic. Large fortunes have been won and lost. Fights, bluffs and mistrust have been common. In short, it has been a bit of a Wild West. Even KNC Miner has a turbulent history. “We lied the whole time.” That is how Andreas Kennemar describes the strategy they used to reach the position they have today within the bitcoin world today, as a respected and profitable company (sic).

KNC's entire business is built on a pathological level of lies/fraud/deception/misrepresentation.

 Well now to be fair, you have to read the entire article.  Later in the article he "explains' the "lie":

This is where the lie comes into the picture. The video they uploaded to Youtube actually shows a significantly faster product than what they promised customers.

We said from the beginning that our product would do 350 GHz. Then, we went out and said that we had made some adjustments and gotten our chips to be faster. We did things like this a few times, says Andreas Kennemar.

We always knew that the chips would be faster. We lied to make customers happy and to confuse competitors. They didn t know where we d set the bar.


 
legendary
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
Are you sure its not the zipties?  ;-)
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Good news guys.  I have reduced my VRM temps by 20 degrees C with my new delta fan:


Ha! Looks like the side is bent out from air pressure Grin
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Clueless!

http://www.va.se/special/knc-miner-631834
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The bitcoin fever, just as other gold rushes, has occasionally been chaotic. Large fortunes have been won and lost. Fights, bluffs and mistrust have been common. In short, it has been a bit of a Wild West. Even KNC Miner has a turbulent history. “We lied the whole time.” That is how Andreas Kennemar describes the strategy they used to reach the position they have today within the bitcoin world today, as a respected and profitable company (sic).

KNC's entire business is built on a pathological level of lies/fraud/deception/misrepresentation.

I rarely use this term, so you should understand the severity of this response:

wow.

er call me gullible but sam cole did not really say that right?

Searing

p.s er crap never mind...missed it ..yep and the assholes can actually admit it and get away with it....we have to stick to their TOS but they don't it seems....

quoted again simply cause I can't believe it!

here is the link as well complete again

http://www.va.se/nyheter/2014/04/11/it-eats-electricity-and-spits-out-money/

"The bitcoin fever, just as other gold rushes, has occasionally been chaotic. Large fortunes have been won and lost. Fights, bluffs and mistrust have been common. In short, it has been a bit of a Wild West. Even KNC Miner has a turbulent history. We lied the whole time. That is how Andreas Kennemar describes the strategy they used to reach the position they have today within the bitcoin world today, as a respected and profitable company."

frigging unbelievable....I mean if BFL made the above interview...I'd go 'yeah ok'..

But KNC it is like a Nun suddenly decided to become a Stripper cause it pays more.....man we were taken from the get go....gave them the cash with buying miners to build the knife to stick in our back....flawlessly evil...yep sure feeling 'confident' on that Titan purchase....(sorry gonna go down in the bsmt and hit head on wall for a bit....)

Searing

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http://www.va.se/special/knc-miner-631834
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The bitcoin fever, just as other gold rushes, has occasionally been chaotic. Large fortunes have been won and lost. Fights, bluffs and mistrust have been common. In short, it has been a bit of a Wild West. Even KNC Miner has a turbulent history. “We lied the whole time.” That is how Andreas Kennemar describes the strategy they used to reach the position they have today within the bitcoin world today, as a respected and profitable company (sic).

KNC's entire business is built on a pathological level of lies/fraud/deception/misrepresentation.

I rarely use this term, so you should understand the severity of this response:

wow.
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Liam told me today that batch 1 started shipping this week and the last orders from batch 1 will be sent out on Monday. Nothing shipped Tuesday. So from what they are saying batch 1 will be built and shipped over approx. 6 days with the 4th and 5th days being Sat/Sun; so half of batch 1 will have been sent by close of business tonight.
Well if someone from KNC told you, then it has to be the truth  Grin

"As we are getting closer to the launch date of Neptune"

February 2014 Newsletter:
Quote
To make sure that everyone who has paid for their Neptune gets their hashing power we are building a data centre like no other. It is located in the north of Sweden not far from Facebook and other Mega Data Centres and it’s totally powered by renewable energy.
 
Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a **completely free** hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers.

http://www.va.se/special/knc-miner-631834
Quote
The bitcoin fever, just as other gold rushes, has occasionally been chaotic. Large fortunes have been won and lost. Fights, bluffs and mistrust have been common. In short, it has been a bit of a Wild West. Even KNC Miner has a turbulent history. “We lied the whole time.” That is how Andreas Kennemar describes the strategy they used to reach the position they have today within the bitcoin world today, as a respected and profitable company (sic).

KNC's entire business is built on a pathological level of lies/fraud/deception/misrepresentation.
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so when we get second neptune

august/september i think it was said.

read Q3/Q4... aka 2015.
legendary
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so when we get second neptune
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so much for the 3-4 weeks in between batches lol

Searing


Batch 2 right after batch 1 I would imagine. Did batch 2 get offered the second miner or was that just CA batch 0 and batch 1?
Batch 2 got the choice for second miner (neptune/titan) or cloud hashing.
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so much for the 3-4 weeks in between batches lol

Searing


Batch 2 right after batch 1 I would imagine. Did batch 2 get offered the second miner or was that just CA batch 0 and batch 1?
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Clueless!
How many units were delivered until now? Do we have a forum guesstimate?

Liam told me today that batch 1 started shipping this week and the last orders from batch 1 will be sent out on Monday. Nothing shipped Tuesday. So from what they are saying batch 1 will be built and shipped over approx. 6 days with the 4th and 5th days being Sat/Sun; so half of batch 1 will have been sent by close of business tonight.

Batch 0/1 was 2400 units total, 400 Jupiter conversions and say 25% of the rest refunds (mostly from batch 1) leaves 1500 Neptunes to ship between the two batches. Say 600 batch one units and 900 batch 0 units based on estimated refund distribution. So based on that it is likely 1200 will have shipped by tonight and the 300 remaining units will ship out on Monday.

That being said I have still not seen a confirmation of delivery since back in Q2; so we have no way of confirming what has and has not been sent out.

u27

so much for the 3-4 weeks in between batches lol

Searing
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How many units were delivered until now? Do we have a forum guesstimate?

Liam told me today that batch 1 started shipping this week and the last orders from batch 1 will be sent out on Monday. Nothing shipped Tuesday. So from what they are saying batch 1 will be built and shipped over approx. 6 days with the 4th and 5th days being Sat/Sun; so half of batch 1 will have been sent by close of business tonight.

Batch 0/1 was 2400 units total, 400 Jupiter conversions and say 25% of the rest refunds (mostly from batch 1) leaves 1500 Neptunes to ship between the two batches. Say 600 batch one units and 900 batch 0 units based on estimated refund distribution. So based on that it is likely 1200 will have shipped by tonight and the 300 remaining units will ship out on Monday.

That being said I have still not seen a confirmation of delivery since back in Q2; so we have no way of confirming what has and has not been sent out.

u27
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How many units were delivered until now? Do we have a forum guesstimate?

I was maintaining a list, but hardly anyone has let me know about deliveries

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-list-of-orders-neptune-348957

It seems all the CA batch are done, that was 1,200 units less any that were refunded.

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How many units were delivered until now? Do we have a forum guesstimate?
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I finally have time to follow KnCs Neptune troubleshooting guide: http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/48166-neptune-troubleshooting-guide

Two of my five modules work, the other three don't even register as an ASIC under the advanced tab.  It's almost like they're not plugged in or powered up (but they are).

I have opened up one of the non-working modules, and there's nothing wrong that I can see from a visual inspection.

Does anyone have any advice?

test with only one box and one PSU, switch boxes and cables/plugs/PSU,... try to find the cause.....
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Run a Bitcoin node.
I finally have time to follow KnCs Neptune troubleshooting guide: http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/48166-neptune-troubleshooting-guide

Two of my five modules work, the other three don't even register as an ASIC under the advanced tab.  It's almost like they're not plugged in or powered up (but they are).

I have opened up one of the non-working modules, and there's nothing wrong that I can see from a visual inspection.

Does anyone have any advice?
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Quick update:
KnC still haven't agreed refund or shipped my order and it's now the Friday of the first week of Q3 so no shipping until Monday at least.
Nobody has confirmed that they have received a Neptune or even a shipping number from KfC since the Q2 deadline.
All signs point towards them having shipped all the chips they had yielded in Q2 and screw the rest of us.

PLEASE GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK KnC!

they learned that one from ScamFast  Roll Eyes

Spoke to Liam today; seems like a genuinely nice guy. I'm told that they have shipped miners every day apart from Tuesday, they will be working over the weekend to get the rest of batch one built and these will all ship on Monday "only a week late".

Still refused to refund.

Still no HWYW without giving up second miner.

Still nobody has conformed here or on KnC forum that they have received a miner since the end of Q2.

u27
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Yes!
The idea was if we get the big ass cooling tower, bar, and blanket out of the way, we may be able to cool those VRM's a bit better.... what ya think?

I agree.. Since they sheered the aluminum the blankets are going to vary based on the unit, some will work much better than others.. I would like to try replacing the current setup with the same type of bracket on the old Neptunes, possibly some small VRM heatsinks (with 48A the heat dissipation is pretty insane) and a higher CFM fan.. I suspect that will be the easiest option that provides plenty of heat dissipation..

I'm most interested in swapping out the VRMs for the 50A version, I suspect they can really be pushed if that jump is taken... While on the Nov we can drive the VRMs much higher they still don't hit the 48A hard shutdown, in the Neptune the stock config is within a few percent of 48A..
Ah yes.  The old Jupiter bar would be great, but that would also mean losing the box totally because the holes are on the wrong sides (in previous posts). No problem there really.
The ericcsons they are using in Neptune are auto-shutting down at 48a?... and pushed within a couple amps?. Damn.
Theres gotta be a cheaper way than buying 8 new vrms for every pcb....
Hmm...  well...  we will soon see exactly what those limits are if Tolip has anything to say about it...hehe

I'm not sure how hard the limit is enforced but per the datasheet for the VRM it cannot be raised past 48A and the VRM is supposed to shutdown at that number..

I hope it's soft enough that they allow maybe 50A before a hard kill but some testing will tell..

You really need to focus on cables + plugs, before you even think of going beyond 475 Mhz (46Amp):
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/49946-neptune-burning-psu-s

You need double plugs + cables (the way I did, and even then I doubt it will be enough without proper cooling {cold airflow along the plugs})


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