Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 311. (Read 3049515 times)

Are you surprised? If so, why are you surprised?

i receive one fucking neptune this is a trash
only 3 TH pufff never ROI

only 0.09 for day or less


there is any new firmware?

Message KnC Kurt re: Titan delivery to scryptsmining.com:



Hi,

We have no affiliation with this company. This company will not be receiving any miners from us on the date that they have stated.

I wish I were that happy.

Order 151## payment cleared Dec 8th... still says "paid"... feel free to put that on the neppy order status thread over at KfC fox.

Happy Neptune customer 

That's a very useful feature, thanks for pointing it out.

I just noticed your sig:


You've accepted you've been screwed. Therefore, why all the fuss?

You do realise if you mine 5BTC with a Neptune and the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, all that means to you is you make back what you spent.

The guys with sense and good timing got back 22BTC for Neptune refunds. And if the price of BTC skyrockets to $2000/coin, they will have pocketed a cool $44,000. With no hassles, no electricity costs, no RMA's etc.

Argue away, but you do know you were screwed by KNC. I don't see why you are defending them. Unless it's Stockholm Syndrome

Yes there is :

So please point out those newsletter.
All I can see from their news section on KNc's website, is that they never promised a 3-4 weeks delay between every batch.
They only said that second batch part 1 "will leave about one month after the first batch". And that is not a promise, it's a approximation.

Batch 0 announcement (11/26/2013) : https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-69
Batch 1 announcement (12/2/2013) : https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-72
Batch 2 - part 1 (December 23, 2013) :
Batch 2 - part 2 (2/14/2014) : https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-76


Also Batch 0 is totally shipped, message from KNC : http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/49594-no-more-neptunes-shipping?p=50239#post50239
And KnCMiningOp reported that is batch 1 order #1459x, is being shipped, along with this member with order #145xx : link.




That is an announcement for Batch 2 part 1.
They did a Batch 2 part 2 (2/14/2014) : https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-76
And on this link, it's clearly written "Neptune Second Batch".

Is there an ignore button or some such like on here? You know, so posts from people on your block list just wouldn't show up?

I disagree. Jupiters were selling for stupid prices (i.e. much more than cost) on ebay in December/January, which was a very strong indication of their worth at the time. $7K is a very realistic price for a 3TH machine, not $10k or $13k.


Did I say anything about roi? No I didn't. I said people had paid $2000 per bitcoin. I was pointing out how people were screwed. You could have bought btc for $500 or $600 recently, but people who bought Neptunes paid $2000 per btc. Which is an epic fail from an investment pov.



No dude, you go somewhere else. Your arguments are weak and it seems you just can't bare to face facts you were screwed by knc. Don't try to take that out on me.

The facts will keep coming. Don't forget the lube! I warned you about it ages ago  

Again, if you are just going to quote kfc's newsletters, you are going to get it all wrong.

Batch 2 sold out in January: link & source

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/resellers-affilicates/general-questions/26690-neptune-second-batch-miners-available-740-available-in-kncminer-webshop?p=28943#post28943

They had a stampede of refunds in early February, leading to all sorts of new ways to flog their dead horse.

- Ebay doesn't mean anything. We already saw that when it comes to miners on Ebay, sellers are most of the time scammers and buyers aren't really buyers, they just bid to troll. Also with Paypal buyers protections who would like to sell anything on Ebay.

- ROI on long terms is not impossible with Neptunes, specially with second miner (Neptune or Titan). The price of BTC isn't static.

By interpreting and inventing facts it's easy to say KNC is a bad company.
Go troll on BFL's topic, it a good environment for you.

Oh and there is another 3-4 weeks between batches you forgot AFox. Because it's the kind of thing KfC put in their emails to customers, but not on the sales page. You know, so guys like you won't remember what KNC promised and will quote the wrong information:


So with a 3-4 week gap between the 0/1/2 batches and another 1 month between those and Batch 3, how are KNC doing? I'd say they've done well to mislead everyone and take all their customers for fools. It's the second week of Q3 and it's not even clear if they have finished shipping the customer humiliation batch (0) yet.

Please give us a link or screen capture of that Google ad. All I see is text that you could have invented.
Also in February, they were selling Batch 2 and not Batch 3. On March 29th 2014, they were still selling Batch 2 : link & source.

Again, they never stated that they were going to ship batch 3 in Q2. The only thing they stated for Batch 3 is above; "Shipment begins one month after Batch 2".

You don't read so well do you? See the google ad above, paid for by KfC in February, which states Batch 3 starts shipping in Q2. You can read and understand what "Shipment begins in Q2 of 2014" means?

But if we stick to your logic, Batch 3 should have started shipped last week of June (Q2). All the other batches - before the last week of May (one month before).

Did that happen? No. Was that ever going to happen? No. KNC knew very well when the chips would arrive and there was no possibility of shipping in May. So it was false advertising/fraud to place that banner on google. They rely on people like you to support their lies, briniging up their carefully worded newsletters that are misleading and ambiguous.



Nice summary of my points  

You are disputing those facts?

- Yes, Neptunes are selling for only $7k on ebay. Pretty bad for the guys still waiting on the rigs they paid $13k for.

- Yes, if you mine back about 6 btc with Neptune (which people on this forum are projecting is what they can mine with one Neptune), taking into account electricity costs, new fans, rewiring houses etc, then that leaves you about 5BTC. $10k divided by 5 = $2000/bitcoin. Is that math too hard for you to do on your own?

- Yes, they did lie about about delivering all rigs by 15th October. That's very old news, but a total fact. They said on 11th October they had only produced 700 units (https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-49), so they knew without a doubt then they could never ship the other 6-7000+ October units in the next 4 days. But did they admit that? No, they lied until the 16th October and then said they were 3 or 4 days behind in production. And then continued to ship units for another 2 weeks. And I know your math is bad, so let me reassure you that 3-4 days is not the same as 2 weeks. So that was total lies/deception too.

So based on these and many many more factors, - Yes, KNC's entire business is indeed built on a pathological level of lies/fraud/deception/misrepresentation. I'm sorry you think someone pointing out the facts is trolling, but I guess if you can't do basic math/logic, then everything is confusing.

Go back under your little bridge troll:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/murraypaul-142472

Although you do make a good point; they did intentionally mislead.

u27

It does.


To encourage the gullible to believe that they would ship earlier than the last possible date.

Quick update:
No change on my order a full week after KfC admitted it was late at the end of Q2 (not to mention the Q1/Q2 deadline they missed by a clear quarter).

For those who would argue that Q1/Q2 delivery means end of Q2; why would they include the "Q1/" if that was the intention?

No free HWYW has been offered; only the $5,995 to hash for a couple of weeks and accept revised T&C (regardless of that fact that every Neptune order would have been refunded already without the 2for1 offer).

My refund (which was requested right after they released the spec, before shipping started) is still being refused.

No form of compensation has been announced on account of the third batch ($10,000 public batch) being sent out right after the CA and $13,000 batches/

u27

EDIT:
I was told on Friday that they would be in assembly over the weekend and the rest of batch 1 would ship Monday (today); just spoke to Anna and "it will most likely ship this week".

That's correct. I messed up the batches.