Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 384.

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Quote from: RawDog on June 18, 2014, 03:50:24 PM

Quote from: bittawm on June 18, 2014, 03:29:00 PM

im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe

Are you fucking stupid? You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait. I decided to wait. You got bitcoin for last 3 months. I got nothing. Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch? Fuck that. It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of. You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait.

Your legal recourse is NOTHING. You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you. No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices. You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one.

This mistake is on you dumbass. Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January. That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up. KNC is delivering on time, on spec. All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment. That isn't KNC's fault. Now, suck it up and quit bitching. What a fucking little girl.

You will burn in hell.

dropt

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Quote from: smracer on June 18, 2014, 02:43:40 PM

Yeeehaaa.. I am glad I planned ahead.

https://i.imgur.com/ACxKst7.jpg

How are those cables going to help with the molex on the PCB melting, shorting, and then catching fire?

dropt

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Quote from: RawDog on June 18, 2014, 03:50:24 PM

I'm going to have a good chuckle after the Neptune burns down your house, the people who got Frankenjups are still hashing and the people that had half a brain in their head refunded, doubling their BTC.

mvalley

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Quote from: RawDog on June 18, 2014, 03:50:24 PM

Quote from: bittawm on June 18, 2014, 03:29:00 PM

im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe

Are you fucking stupid? You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait. I decided to wait. You got bitcoin for last 3 months. I got nothing. Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch? Fuck that. It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of. You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait.

Your legal recourse is NOTHING. You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you. No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices. You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one.

This mistake is on you dumbass. Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January. That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up. KNC is delivering on time, on spec. All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment. That isn't KNC's fault. Now, suck it up and quit bitching. What a fucking little girl.

Rawdog, tell him how you really feel. Wink

-Mike

RawDog

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Quote from: bittawm on June 18, 2014, 03:29:00 PM

im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe

Are you fucking stupid? You CHOSE to receive the 3TH early - in a set-up described as patched up bunch of parts in existence rather than wait. I decided to wait. You got bitcoin for last 3 months. I got nothing. Now that Neptune is ready, you'd like to cry like a little bitch? Fuck that. It was understood by everyone what your 3TH would be made of. You chose that path rather than risk the additional wait.

Your legal recourse is NOTHING. You can't ask for legal help now that your dumb choice failed you. No law protects dumb people who make dumb choices. You should have waited for on time delivery of your Neptune rather than panic and try to pull a fast one.

This mistake is on you dumbass. Quit trying to sue KNC because you weren't expecting anything less than a perfect running Neptune in January. That was all your dumb mistake.

I wish the fucking crybabies around here would shut up. KNC is delivering on time, on spec. All you pussies are just sad your Neptune isn't going to make 25X on investment. That isn't KNC's fault. Now, suck it up and quit bitching. What a fucking little girl.

bittawm

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im shit out of luck guys and I really want to do something about this legally but dont know whos also going down that track or where to go. i have a really damaged fraken jupe

Cablez

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Quote from: smracer on June 18, 2014, 02:43:40 PM

Yeeehaaa.. I am glad I planned ahead.

]https://i.imgur.com/ACxKst7.jpg[/img]

What are the non-minifit ends going to...a server PSU?

smracer

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Yeeehaaa.. I am glad I planned ahead.

midyatspor

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 02:16:12 PM

Quote from: midyatspor on June 18, 2014, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: Cablez on June 18, 2014, 01:50:29 PM

Quote from: raskul on June 18, 2014, 01:44:02 PM

Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it Wink

Those housings will not survive at those ratings and become brittle and then melt/burn out. I really hope that KnC can get the power down for these or it will be real interesting.

Here is more info on the connectors: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-power-can-you-pull-through-the-molex-connector-62686

Perhaps you need to use these 13A per wire http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=minifit_plus_connector_system&channel=products&chanName=family&pageTitle=Introduction&parentKey=minifit_products

hmm, yeah... looks like you get double the wattage using the extra two black pins going from six to eight pin. Maybe there's a way we can jumper the extra ground to the psu to compensate for it being six pin. (Just a thought)

If they did not think about the connector then there is something wrong with their engineering dept.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 18, 2014, 08:41:31 AM

Quote from: edgar on June 18, 2014, 01:19:36 AM

up until a week or so ago i thought s1gs3gv was a lot smarter - but perhaps hes playing a role for reason/s as yet unestablished??

Why thank you Sir Edgar. If you are referring to my agreement with Searing that it is probably best just to buy BTC instead of miners, I'm not sure how you could take exception to that. After all, buying mining hardware now is like buying BTC at a 10-20% premium.

Will be interesting to see how the S3 is priced ...

Actually i fully agree with the sentiment of buying coin direct over paying full price for any of the miners on offer now. but this was discussed, calculated & agreed upon when the S2 was released 'ages' ago.

Sighrings repetition of it among other bunkum hardly makes him the 'founding father of forethought'

I was specifically referring to your recent 'Leave KnC Alone' crusade, them chumps fumbled the ball in september last year - and NEVER managed to get a grip since!

i wont repeat how & why as it is already fully known & understood.

As for the S3 - my guess is Over-Priced, as per 'sigh'ing usual.

i think much more interesting will be the state of the 'nearlytunes' when they start arriving on doorsteps & the subsequent cheers/tears 999/911 calls for the fire brigade/dept.

the greed of these guys knows NO bounds

LOL @ Phonie 'never stops learning' - clearly you need to bone up on your math as well as reading comprehension, or perhaps you can hit the old ignore aka save me from my own ignorance button

E2A - LMFAO!! Wonder how you survived this long!

For profit buying is great. For securing the network... Mining always helps out. Helps secure any coins you might have invested as all.

samsonn25

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Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

So it's not a matter of the PSU cables, or requiring a splitter. It's a matter of the connector that's mated to the PCB being run well past its rating. There should be at MINIMUM two PCI-E plugs, three if you want to leave the end-user room to overclock.

Yes this is stupid, unless KNC thinks most people will make custom connections for power with correct guage wires and non-conventional power supplies.

If this is the case at least include some custom heavy duty pcie-cables (if thick enough, a single rail psu can handle it), for 12k people deserve that at least.

Phoenix1969

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Quote from: midyatspor on June 18, 2014, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: Cablez on June 18, 2014, 01:50:29 PM

Quote from: raskul on June 18, 2014, 01:44:02 PM

Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it Wink

Those housings will not survive at those ratings and become brittle and then melt/burn out. I really hope that KnC can get the power down for these or it will be real interesting.

Here is more info on the connectors: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-power-can-you-pull-through-the-molex-connector-62686

Perhaps you need to use these 13A per wire http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=minifit_plus_connector_system&channel=products&chanName=family&pageTitle=Introduction&parentKey=minifit_products

hmm, yeah... looks like you get double the wattage using the extra two black pins going from six to eight pin. Maybe there's a way we can jumper the extra ground to the psu to compensate for it being six pin. (Just a thought)

midyatspor

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Quote from: Cablez on June 18, 2014, 01:50:29 PM

Quote from: raskul on June 18, 2014, 01:44:02 PM

Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it Wink

Those housings will not survive at those ratings and become brittle and then melt/burn out. I really hope that KnC can get the power down for these or it will be real interesting.

Here is more info on the connectors: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-much-power-can-you-pull-through-the-molex-connector-62686

Perhaps you need to use these 13A per wire http://www.molex.com/molex/products/family?key=minifit_plus_connector_system&channel=products&chanName=family&pageTitle=Introduction&parentKey=minifit_products

Cablez

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Quote from: raskul on June 18, 2014, 01:44:02 PM

Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it Wink

Those housings will not survive at those ratings and become brittle and then melt/burn out. I really hope that KnC can get the power down for these or it will be real interesting.

raskul

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Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 01:41:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

i'll give 'em a clue - you can roast marshmallows with it Wink

dropt

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Quote from: Phoenix1969 on June 18, 2014, 01:22:35 PM

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

Molex rates those Minifit-JR plugs at 8A per conductor. Since there are three, the plug itself is rated to 24A. KNC intends for you to run at 45.8% above the manufacturer's rating. Any thoughts on what happens after running something like this 24/7 at 45.8% above its rated capacity?

So it's not a matter of the PSU cables, or requiring a splitter. It's a matter of the connector that's mated to the PCB being run well past its rating. There should be at MINIMUM two PCI-E plugs, three if you want to leave the end-user room to overclock.

edgar

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raw nerve, phonie?

try utilizing your brain, you want to project this image of knowing wtf you are talking about, putting ppl down whilst being among the most retarded members among us.

as well as being dishonest, you are dense, hard headed and a slow learner who happens to be a know-nothing know-it-all.

edit some more to prove you're not simple.

or go & cry to the mods....S'More

smart of you to remove your dishonest 'never stops learning' crap - even if you are still residing on Pluto.

Oooh, the classic 'twist facts to suit your insanity', its been a while since you employed that one in here!

i NEVER said it first and you know full well i NEVER claimed to, you are so crooked!

leopards & spots eh...

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: s1gs3gv on June 18, 2014, 08:41:31 AM

Quote from: edgar on June 18, 2014, 01:19:36 AM

up until a week or so ago i thought s1gs3gv was a lot smarter - but perhaps hes playing a role for reason/s as yet unestablished??

Why thank you Sir Edgar. If you are referring to my agreement with Searing that it is probably best just to buy BTC instead of miners, I'm not sure how you could take exception to that. After all, buying mining hardware now is like buying BTC at a 10-20% premium.

Will be interesting to see how the S3 is priced ...

Actually i fully agree with the sentiment of buying coin direct over paying full price for any of the miners on offer now. but this was discussed, calculated & agreed upon when the S2 was released 'ages' ago.

Sighrings repetition of it among other bunkum hardly makes him the 'founding father of forethought'

I was specifically referring to your recent 'Leave KnC Alone' crusade, them chumps fumbled the ball in september last year - and NEVER managed to get a grip since!

i wont repeat how & why as it is already fully known & understood.

As for the S3 - my guess is Over-Priced, as per 'sigh'ing usual.

i think much more interesting will be the state of the 'nearlytunes' when they start arriving on doorsteps & the subsequent cheers/tears 999/911 calls for the fire brigade/dept.

the greed of these guys knows NO bounds

LOL @ Phonie 'never stops learning' - clearly you need to bone up on your math as well as reading comprehension, or perhaps you can hit the old ignore aka save me from my own ignorance button

What is your point here besides attempting to piss others off? After bashing Searing, and ridiculing him, you admit he's probably right yet want to be sure you said it was your thought first? You are so shallow.

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Quote from: dropt on June 18, 2014, 12:17:59 PM

Quote from: tolip_wen on June 18, 2014, 12:03:40 PM

Considering that the "n" in KnC stands for FRUGAL TO A FAULT,
my bets would be on one controller and serial connections. It need not be ribbon cable though.

YMMV

I concur. Aso, it is unlikely that they'll ever have more than one ASIC per board/box and that single PCI-E plug is a major safety hazard.

if only a single asic and pcb per box, then why a safety hazard?
I't basically the same as the 28nm was then
edit: oh, i see.. 2100 watts/5 is 420 per plug...ouch Double connectors (pci splitter)may be in order..... wonder how hot those leads will be

The Avenger

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What did I miss? UPS shipping notifications flying out to everyone all over the world? 400 Neptunes shipped, 2 days left to ship the other 800 rigs in batch 1 as they promised?! KFC are hamazing!

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We expect to ship to Batch 1 pre-order customers this week

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