Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 681. (Read 3050075 times)

Quote from: dropt on February 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

Why? Are you supposing that KnC doesn't know what percentage of their customers have paid for miners or upgrade modules from MtGox accounts and of those customers which are US citizens? Being in the industry they would recognize if there's a problem that had been created by their US customers paying for Neptunes with a single, greater than $10k value payment.

I will bet you all the coins you have stored anywhere but a wallet that KNC does not know, does not care and that this has nothing to do with why they haven't released upgrade modules.

Like elasticband said, are we now getting this nuts that we are coming up with this tinfoil hat crap?

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Quote from: dropt on February 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

Why? Are you supposing that KnC doesn't know what percentage of their customers have paid for miners or upgrade modules from MtGox accounts and of those customers which are US citizens? Being in the industry they would recognize if there's a problem that had been created by their US customers paying for Neptunes with a single, greater than $10k value payment.

This is madness. waiting for news from KnC is actually making people think this crazy?

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I can't fathom why anyone would think KNC gives a damn about where the bitcoin or fiat is coming from, so long as they get it.

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Quote from: dropt on February 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM

Quote from: Praeconium on February 03, 2014, 04:39:15 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

Why? Are you supposing that KnC doesn't know what percentage of their customers have paid for miners or upgrade modules from MtGox accounts and of those customers which are US citizens? Being in the industry they would recognize if there's a problem that had been created by their US customers paying for Neptunes with a single, greater than $10k value payment.

Seriously Soy, you don't get this? Never, NEVER make a Bitcoin purchase from a source you don't directly control such as Exchanges like MtGox. That's day one NOOB stuff!

Coinbase is a bit different since you can place coins in your own personal online wallet that they host. But even with Coinbase, don't make purchases from your Trading account without putting the funds into your own wallet.

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 10:31:49 AM

Quote from: Micky25 on February 03, 2014, 06:03:03 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on February 03, 2014, 05:33:53 AM

i want to make some knc miners stickers
can anyone post here the big logo of knc minerS??? Roll Eyes

Perhaps KnCminer noted it was seeing such a large fraction of miner buys with money that was transferred from bitpay after a transfer from MtGox that as long as MtGox is showing frozen US BTC, KnCminer won't sell more upgrade boards or miners.

Huh what?

Sounds like US $&btc held at MtGox isn't making it out, e.g. can't be transferred. I tried to make a 1.5btc transfer MtGox to Coinbase and it's a no go.

I am experiencing this as of right now, what can be done with such transaction? As I got transaction hash, but its been almost an hour and nothing yet.

Where may MTGox Bitcoins be sent?

To your wallet??

What is this your first day in Bitcoin world?

MtGox is not a wallet.

What is this candid camera/punk'd ?

You own KNC hardware and you don't know how to move Bitcoins around?

let's start you at the basics:

https://bitcoin.org/

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 10:31:49 AM

Quote from: Micky25 on February 03, 2014, 06:03:03 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on February 03, 2014, 05:33:53 AM

i want to make some knc miners stickers
can anyone post here the big logo of knc minerS??? Roll Eyes

Perhaps KnCminer noted it was seeing such a large fraction of miner buys with money that was transferred from bitpay after a transfer from MtGox that as long as MtGox is showing frozen US BTC, KnCminer won't sell more upgrade boards or miners.

Huh what?

Sounds like US $&btc held at MtGox isn't making it out, e.g. can't be transferred. I tried to make a 1.5btc transfer MtGox to Coinbase and it's a no go.

I am experiencing this as of right now, what can be done with such transaction? As I got transaction hash, but its been almost an hour and nothing yet.

Where may MTGox Bitcoins be sent?

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Quote from: dropt on February 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM

Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 03:42:55 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

Why? Are you supposing that KnC doesn't know what percentage of their customers have paid for miners or upgrade modules from MtGox accounts and of those customers which are US citizens? Being in the industry they would recognize if there's a problem that had been created by their US customers paying for Neptunes with a single, greater than $10k value payment.

That's exactly what I'm proposing. Why do you assume that KnC has any idea which and what possible bitcoin addresses belong to Mt.Gox? Further, why would they care which, or how many of their previous customers used Mt. Gox? They've had no problem selling out their hardware without giving any care or concern as to where their customers store their coins, I don't see them changing.

As far as KnC is concerned: they bill you, you send coins, they confirm your order. If they bill you and you do not pay (because of Mt. Gox, or you're broke) they don't care. They sell that place to someone else.

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You get 5 points in my book just for using the word "stoop"

and compared to the rest of this forum, I'd say fitting as well

Why We Have Stoops

http://gothamist.com/2013/07/19/why_we_have_stoops.php

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Quote from: dropt on February 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

Why? Are you supposing that KnC doesn't know what percentage of their customers have paid for miners or upgrade modules from MtGox accounts and of those customers which are US citizens? Being in the industry they would recognize if there's a problem that had been created by their US customers paying for Neptunes with a single, greater than $10k value payment.

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 03:03:39 PM

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

You have lost your mind.

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Quote from: DPoS on February 03, 2014, 03:40:00 PM

Perhaps KnCminer noted it was seeing such a large fraction of miner buys with money that was transferred from bitpay after a transfer from MtGox that as long as MtGox is showing frozen US BTC, KnCminer won't sell more upgrade boards or miners.

It's Bitpay's responsbility to deal with any BTC -> fiat conversations and I suspect they have a handle on it since they move BTC -> fiat every day for thousands of merchants.. I wouldn't be too surprised if Bitpay has a working relationship with Mt. Gox of some sort but regardless it's still Bitpay's issue, they have a contract with their merchants which gives the merchants the service they require and Bitpay handles the backend work..

Yes, but. If US MtGox users can't transfer btc from MtGox to Bitpay, and someone has said that Bitpay is owned by the owners of KnC tho I have no personal knowledge of that, then if KnCminer were to offer products right now, and if KnCMiner knew via Bitpay that US miner buyers can't access their MtGox btc, and just because I can't doesn't mean others can't either but on another thread someone said nobody in the US is getting anything out of MtGox, btc or dollars, and not to have a run-on sentence but, then KnC would only be selling to those with hard cash or btc outside of MtGox. Is that last a big deal or not?

One solution might be for KnC to poll pre-existing customers to find if the MtGox problem would prevent a purchase. However, if the MtGox problem with the US is the FINCen $10k limit on transfers (if by US citizens no matter if the transfer is effected completely outside the US, e.g. MtGox->Bitpay->KnCminer, then ANY Neptune purchase would have been out-of-bounds if done with a single transfer by a US citizen as even at the sub-$10k price, the cost with shipping would have been >$10k.

Thread derailment in 3....2....1

What does this have to do with KNC?

Best practice is you don't pay anyone from anything but your own controlled wallet.

Not Gox
Not Coinbase.

If KnC isn't posting new upgrade modules because essentially knowing MtGox won't allow pre-existing Saturn and Mercury customers to access their btc sitting on MtGox then no it is not a derailment. I think I'll go with a single digit here.

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 03:03:39 PM

What does this have to do with KNC?

You're such a ninny ... you know any real news KNC will email us anyway.. this thread is a city stoop nothing more

You get 5 points in my book just for using the word "stoop"

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 03:03:39 PM

What does this have to do with KNC?

You're such a ninny ... you know any real news KNC will email us anyway.. this thread is a city stoop nothing more

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Quote from: edgar on February 03, 2014, 10:56:40 AM

Perhaps KnCminer noted it was seeing such a large fraction of miner buys with money that was transferred from bitpay after a transfer from MtGox that as long as MtGox is showing frozen US BTC, KnCminer won't sell more upgrade boards or miners.

It's Bitpay's responsbility to deal with any BTC -> fiat conversations and I suspect they have a handle on it since they move BTC -> fiat every day for thousands of merchants.. I wouldn't be too surprised if Bitpay has a working relationship with Mt. Gox of some sort but regardless it's still Bitpay's issue, they have a contract with their merchants which gives the merchants the service they require and Bitpay handles the backend work..

Yes, but. If US MtGox users can't transfer btc from MtGox to Bitpay, and someone has said that Bitpay is owned by the owners of KnC tho I have no personal knowledge of that, then if KnCminer were to offer products right now, and if KnCMiner knew via Bitpay that US miner buyers can't access their MtGox btc, and just because I can't doesn't mean others can't either but on another thread someone said nobody in the US is getting anything out of MtGox, btc or dollars, and not to have a run-on sentence but, then KnC would only be selling to those with hard cash or btc outside of MtGox. Is that last a big deal or not?

One solution might be for KnC to poll pre-existing customers to find if the MtGox problem would prevent a purchase. However, if the MtGox problem with the US is the FINCen $10k limit on transfers (if by US citizens no matter if the transfer is effected completely outside the US, e.g. MtGox->Bitpay->KnCminer, then ANY Neptune purchase would have been out-of-bounds if done with a single transfer by a US citizen as even at the sub-$10k price, the cost with shipping would have been >$10k.

Thread derailment in 3....2....1

What does this have to do with KNC?

Best practice is you don't pay anyone from anything but your own controlled wallet.

Not Gox
Not Coinbase.

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Quote from: ncs0ne on February 03, 2014, 08:51:40 AM

Be aware that you cannot change your shipping address.
KnCMiner doesn't allow to change it, nor do they allow pick-up for Neptunes.

Quote

(...)
Unfortunately we are not offering local pickup option for the Neptune orders.
All orders will be shipped with UPS.
(...)

In case you want to host your Neptunes somewhere else than your original shipping address, you have to resolve this on your own with UPS.
And exactly in the timespan AFTER the label has been printed and BEFORE the package has been picked up by UPS.
That's what UPS customer service told me.

Further they strongly recommended that the sender should modify the destination address, instead of me modifying the destination after the label has been printed. Because it's more administrative overhead and it might fail if UPS-internal eMails are not read in time or other things go wrong.
The lady one the phone could not really believe I'm not able to get it send to another destination address, especially if the label has not been printed until now. Seems like it is not very usual that a company refuses to do so.

like misleading buyers, forcing them to break the law regarding shipping, refusing to honor refunds, refusing to issue rma's, switching the TOS, using a retard to promote/lie/make thinsg up/guess/ distort evidence, playing mind games with buyers and generally being out & out twunts...

lets not forget they are Phakeonixs favourite company evver!!

evidence enough in itself...

edgar, you are good....lulz

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It seems strange that KnC will not allow either local pickup or change of shipping address. Especially since the colo hosts have yet to announce pricing as they're waiting on KnC to publish specs.

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Quote from: ncs0ne on February 03, 2014, 08:51:40 AM

Be aware that you cannot change your shipping address.
KnCMiner doesn't allow to change it, nor do they allow pick-up for Neptunes.

Quote

(...)
Unfortunately we are not offering local pickup option for the Neptune orders.
All orders will be shipped with UPS.
(...)

In case you want to host your Neptunes somewhere else than your original shipping address, you have to resolve this on your own with UPS.
And exactly in the timespan AFTER the label has been printed and BEFORE the package has been picked up by UPS.
That's what UPS customer service told me.

Further they strongly recommended that the sender should modify the destination address, instead of me modifying the destination after the label has been printed. Because it's more administrative overhead and it might fail if UPS-internal eMails are not read in time or other things go wrong.
The lady one the phone could not really believe I'm not able to get it send to another destination address, especially if the label has not been printed until now. Seems like it is not very usual that a company refuses to do so.

like misleading buyers, forcing them to break the law regarding shipping, refusing to honor refunds, refusing to issue rma's, switching the TOS, using a retard to promote/lie/make thinsg up/guess/ distort evidence, playing mind games with buyers and generally being out & out twunts...

lets not forget they are Phakeonixs favourite company evver!!

evidence enough in itself...

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Quote from: joeventura on February 03, 2014, 10:31:49 AM

Quote from: Micky25 on February 03, 2014, 06:03:03 AM

Quote from: jelin1984 on February 03, 2014, 05:33:53 AM

i want to make some knc miners stickers
can anyone post here the big logo of knc minerS??? Roll Eyes

Perhaps KnCminer noted it was seeing such a large fraction of miner buys with money that was transferred from bitpay after a transfer from MtGox that as long as MtGox is showing frozen US BTC, KnCminer won't sell more upgrade boards or miners.

Huh what?

Sounds like US $&btc held at MtGox isn't making it out, e.g. can't be transferred. I tried to make a 1.5btc transfer MtGox to Coinbase and it's a no go.

It's been known for a long time that getting money out of Mt Gox to US Banks is near impossible.

How could getting BTC to transfer from Mt Gox to Coinbase be a problem?

Just because you are having problems does not mean KNC is, and what makes you think KNC is using Mt Gox anyway?

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