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December 26, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
Talking of hosting. In Europe, colocentre.nl is the cheapest place I've come across so far.
Outskirts of Rotterdam, they'll host based on the likely KWh draw you need. So far it comes out much cheaper than UK hosting places I've looked into.
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December 26, 2013, 02:26:00 PM
3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.

I bet E.On or whoever just love you, or think you're running a hydroponics lab.
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December 26, 2013, 02:17:14 PM
Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.

3.7TH/s @ £350 a month.
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December 26, 2013, 02:11:48 PM
Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin

Talking of electricity, how much are your miners costing a month? I am dreading getting my first electricity bill.
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December 26, 2013, 02:03:49 PM
You wired homes in the USA and you call 240 single phase "two phase" Huh  We can just let that go though, as this thread is turning into pages of hypothetical power supply discussion. How boring!

None of us know what power supply requirements are going to be for these neptunes. What is the speculation for? Total blind guesses.
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December 26, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

There really isn't a "usually" for US houses as except for newer 'track home' communities there is a huge variety in overall electrical service to the home as well as its inside wiring.  About the only thing that I believe would be pretty standard from coast to coast here is that residential service drops are 240V single phase.  What happens from there is anyone's guess depending on location, age, and homeowner's needs for 240V circuits for many kitchen appliances, clothing washer/dryer, water heater, computers, heavy tools like welders, .......

I wired new homes in Arizona back in the early 1970's.  Typically you'd run a couple of 12 gauge 20 amp single phase circuits to the kitchen with two duplex outlets on each, other rooms would get 14 gauge 15 amps with maybe 2 duplex outlets and maybe an overhead light but perhaps the overhead lights were on a separate circuit, my memory is hazy.  There would be 2 phase to the kitchen for an electric stove, and 2 phase to the washing machine area for the dryer.  I don't recall what those breakers were rated at but one could look in the breaker box and see.  200 amp service max total I think.

I live in a mobile home.  This is a hothouse in the summer.  I have a window AC in the living room with ducting that puts the air into the bedroom so it's a bit more quiet.  I have another AC that I mounted thru the living room wall for cooling the room but that usually isn't enough on hot days or if I'm running on my treadmill in the living room watching TV in the summer so I have a portable darlek-type (similar to a Dr. Who darlek) in the living room to pick up the slack.  There had been a single outlet on that side for the treadmill, the wall mounted AC and the portable AC so for a while I was running extension cords when on the treadmill but finally got around to putting in two additional 14-2 Romex lines each having a 15 amp breaker.  Right now I'm running a Merc upgraded to a Saturn on the other side of the room along with various laptops, a Blade, a Jalapeno and a few USB BEs in TPlink USB hubs as well as my main system.  I plan to dedicate one of those new 15 amp circuits to the Neptune and return to an extension cord for the treadmill, that to another room and circuit.   I may put all my miners into an enclosure of Styrofoam, the enclosure being fed by ducting from an AC, the AC having the fan on continually but the compressor switched by a thermal control device within the enclosure.  That would allow filtering the air.  A plus when one's dog rolls in the red Georgia dirt then scratches after he gets back in the house putting a cloud of dust into the air.

What the power supply situation turns out to be is significant.  If they include a supply, which would be nice saving us money and bother, will it be convertible 115/220?  If so I could run 14-3 to the pair of 14-2 circuits I put in for the AC & treadmill, and get 230VAC to any kind of a connector I want to use.
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December 26, 2013, 12:48:17 PM
Bogart

thanks
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December 26, 2013, 12:34:55 PM
Jelin, your avatar makes me laugh.



The way she's leaning that bike over, I don't see how she's going to recover without hitting the rail on the side of the dock and maybe going over it and into the water.  I'd say the living's about to be not so easy for her.

Anyway...
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December 26, 2013, 12:33:21 PM
Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.

I have 3x 30A circuits - one just for the cooker, which I can hack into if needed and 2x for all the wall power sockets in every room. That is 14400W for all power sockets without any safety margins.
But I would never consider running more than 1 Neptune at home. I will most probably host them.
Or rent a flat as it might be cheaper  Grin
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December 26, 2013, 12:31:25 PM
Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...

It's standard to have a couple of 240V, 32A circuits in UK houses.  So that's over 7kW per circuit.  The master fuse on the grid side of my meter is 110A but I'm not sure if that's at 240V or part of a drop down transformer.
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December 26, 2013, 12:16:25 PM
Folks seem to be assuming that a Neptune will need to be plugged into a single power outlet.

Depending on the setup, it may be possible to use 2 to 3 1200 to 1500 Watt power supplies plugged into outlets on different breakers to power 1 Neptune...
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December 26, 2013, 12:07:44 PM
US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.

There really isn't a "usually" for US houses as except for newer 'track home' communities there is a huge variety in overall electrical service to the home as well as its inside wiring.  About the only thing that I believe would be pretty standard from coast to coast here is that residential service drops are 240V single phase.  What happens from there is anyone's guess depending on location, age, and homeowner's needs for 240V circuits for many kitchen appliances, clothing washer/dryer, water heater, computers, heavy tools like welders, .......
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December 26, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
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11, I hope you got someone hosting those for you. there is no way home service could support those not unless its 400amp and you don't plan on running anything else in your house.




What do you think, is it enought power?

You will need 240V and calculate at least 13A at 240V for each Neptune.  So UK houses/flats should be okay they'll just maybe need to use different circuits if they have a lot of Neptunes.  US homes usually have one 240V socket IIRC but I'm not sure what the amperage is for the socket.
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December 26, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
sorry off topic...

Hey Phoenix1969

we both got a nice Christmas gift.. we both graduated to senior members at same time  Cheesy Grin

congratulations and Merry Christmas to you and everyone here  Wink

somewhat off topic but how exactly does that work?...time since you first made an account?



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December 26, 2013, 11:04:09 AM
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11, I hope you got someone hosting those for you. there is no way home service could support those not unless its 400amp and you don't plan on running anything else in your house.




What do you think, is it enought power?
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December 26, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
i was looking at an ebay auction of a jupiter, and it showed a picture of the laptop screen and it showed his hashrate and then i noticed something on the right side 

HW status then it had ACIS 1,2,3,4,5,6 but 2 are empty, is there a way to get the 2 empty slots filled to get more hashrate? i mean does knc sell them or is it possible?

they already sold a batch of expansions boards for october miners.

actually it was only for saturn/mercury owners that want to expand their machine.

In reality a lot of people with a jupiter have the luck of having the control board with 6 funtioning asics plug, and somene who hasn't this luck just mod the board to add two more plugs since it was the only missing piece and everything else were in place already. They just bought the plugs and then soldered it onto the controll board.

As result there're a few people running a miner with 6 asic modules.

Of course there were also people that buy the expansion boards to resell it on ebay Smiley

If memory serves it takes less than ten minutes to sell all the exapnskion boards, actually they've oversold due to sw glitch.

 
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December 26, 2013, 10:06:41 AM

Neptune Second Batch
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Neptune is our first 20nm product and will be shipping in Q2 of 2014. This order is for the second batch which will leave about one month after the first batch

The stats and performance that we can release today are

    Minimum 3000GH/s of hashing speed that 3TH Over 5 times the speed of our first Jupiter release
       (we reserve the right to increase this as we get closer to shipment)
    A 30% reduction in watts per GH
    Based on the existing Jupiter design (See photo, however this may change as development progresses)
    Shipment begins in Q2 of 2014


if see tell that ship will begin at Q2
so maybe the first batch will begin at Q1 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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December 26, 2013, 08:38:11 AM
i was looking at an ebay auction of a jupiter, and it showed a picture of the laptop screen and it showed his hashrate and then i noticed something on the right side 

HW status then it had ACIS 1,2,3,4,5,6 but 2 are empty, is there a way to get the 2 empty slots filled to get more hashrate? i mean does knc sell them or is it possible?
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December 26, 2013, 07:25:42 AM
Hi Orama,

can you give me and all others here an clear answer what happens with second batch?

Is it an marketing trick or what? Will KNC deliver the 13K Neptune on same time like the 10K ones?
Why made KNC such marketing tricks?
 
I orderd form second batch 11 Neptune for 13K each, can I switch my orders to 14 Neptune for 10k?

Other´s want also an absolute clear answer! Every time when we talk here about the diff you came and
discuss with us also on questions about jupiter firmware, do you have an filter for qustions like these
here.

Also I send the money for the first batch in the wright time, but my money comes back with no chance
to get one of these. I was sending KNC my official accountstatements, but I got only the standard answers.


I´m absolutely confused, about the new KNC marketing tricks.

merry christmas to all out there
You are confused.....
No trick to it.....
Neptune Batch 1   (overall batch 4)customer appreciation batch q1/q2          10k
Neptune batch 2 (Gen public batch to be delivered 2 weeks after batch 1)    13k
Gen public batch 2 (neptune batch 3, overall batch 7!)  delivered...q2           10k
Clear as mud now?    Wink

11, I hope you got someone hosting those for you. there is no way home service could support those not unless its 400amp and you don't plan on running anything else in your house.
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December 26, 2013, 02:01:30 AM
Haven't been around for a while.  So is it confirmed that the Neptune is Q2 now?

At least the last batch that is selling now. Which would be batch 3 (?) and it's supposed to be delivered 6-8 weeks after batch 1.

It's the product line itself, not just batch 3.

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