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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 944. (Read 3050071 times)

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November 27, 2013, 12:00:44 PM
Thx Bitcoinorama 4 nothing, mostly the mercury hash only 80-99Ghas, most of 200 oct boards ended in Jupiter's owners hands, or on ebay, bitmit, marke place Sad and please do don't write like there is only one manufacturer for each part of miner in world

I order these parts too... sometimes there is only one optimal part and it does become a pain to source the best part or an alternative.

Suppliers to me are Newark/Farnell, Embest, Mouser, Digikey, Texas Instruments, Sayal Arrow etc....

I recently had a major project derailed when TI NRND'd all my MCU's -- so as far as I am concerned he's right.

But you can believe whatever you like...
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November 27, 2013, 11:51:47 AM

Anyhow.. I have confidence they can pull off the 20nm stuff, and their designs are without equal right now, but I just think they burned a few bridges in order to open up a few pathways to the industrial side of mining. In the longrun, it will be professionally hosted sites and industrial-based home setups which will carry bitcoin. It's clear KNC is positioning themselves to be the #1 hardware supplier of those customers, and is leaving the consumer/foundational miner behind.

Anyone who doesn't see that, has blinds over their eyes.

And Orama, I wouldn't be to sharp to say Cointerra's chips are being rated at "maximum" output. There just may be some surprises in store.

Just my .02

Sorry if this has already been discussed (can't keep up with this thread!) but realistically, will the Neptune ever ROI? It seems a bit punchy price-wise...

I went through several scenarios. The positive ones (March-May delivery, modest jumps, steady BTC $ increase) look good. The ones that deliver towards July with BTC pricing downturns or greater than 20% jumps don't look so good.

Sames risk as always -- do your own analysis.

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November 27, 2013, 11:40:51 AM
Personally, let's say I could only support 2kw, I'd feel almost ill owning a miner which can only do 3TH because of the limitation, knowing that if I had more power it could go twice as fast. It's like paying 2x as much for a miner than you need to. I have a feeling the Neptune will be able to hit 5 or 6TH in the right conditions.

It's like buying a jupiter and unplugging 2 modules Smiley
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November 27, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
They may be heading to more power hungry rigs, but we don't know how power hungry yet. Even 2kw isn't anything more than a small electric fire which many homes run ...most small home miners won't be running 10 neptunes, maybe 2 or three max? No problem really as long as they pay their bills.
The problem for competitors, apart from trust and proven hardware is price.. can they compete with the price per Gh? Seriously doubt that unless someone new like KNC appear, which could happen.

KNC have been very clever at marketing and timing , I'd bet they have destroyed some companies like BFL completely. No tears there though eh? Smiley

I think the power issue isn't so much paying the bill, but the wiring involved. Most US houses these days, you might be able to squeeze out 2..MAYBE 4kw circuit. Beyond that you need subpanels, and ideally dedicated panels. Most folks won't do that unless they're already balls deep (like Phoenix for example).

Personally, let's say I could only support 2kw, I'd feel almost ill owning a miner which can only do 3TH because of the limitation, knowing that if I had more power it could go twice as fast. It's like paying 2x as much for a miner than you need to. I have a feeling the Neptune will be able to hit 5 or 6TH in the right conditions.

Yes, KNC has done well with their timing. I also point to their 'protect the network' claim as part of this. They're using it as an excuse for timing, but to save themselves from a bad reputation regarding time-to-market (such as what befell BFL).
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November 27, 2013, 11:28:38 AM
The safest bet for a quality design which will exceed the specified hash rate and will definitely ship sometime in 2014, is KNC. There's no doubt.

I have a feeling, however, the other companies will stick to 28nm for awhile and cater toward the house-based mining folk, as it appears KNC is propelling toward more industrial consumers.

If you were to spend money on a miner right now, your best bet is KNC. To me, there's too many variables with what the returns will be like in 4-6 months, I'd rather find something now and burn it up until it's no longer viable, and move forward with the earnings.

They may be heading to more power hungry rigs, but we don't know how power hungry yet. Even 2kw isn't anything more than a small electric fire which many homes run ...most small home miners won't be running 10 neptunes, maybe 2 or three max? No problem really as long as they pay their bills.
The problem for competitors, apart from trust and proven hardware is price.. can they compete with the price per Gh? Seriously doubt that unless someone new like KNC appear, which could happen.

KNC have been very clever at marketing and timing , I'd bet they have destroyed some companies like BFL completely. No tears there though eh? Smiley
soy
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November 27, 2013, 11:25:42 AM
Oh my god
Bitcoin is crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


yeah 1,030.00 USD on www.mtgox.com

I looked up local time for Shanghai China it is 12:20am or some such Thursday..jeez....an't even daytime yet...wait till Thurs Eve China Time!



    Show chart
    Last:$1,040.00000
    High:$1,044.00000
    Low:$877.00
    Vol:31578 BTC
    W.Avg:$959.04

MtGox a minute or so ago.
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Clueless!
November 27, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
Oh my god
Bitcoin is crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


yeah 1,030.00 USD on www.mtgox.com

I looked up local time for Shanghai China it is 12:20am or some such Thursday..jeez....an't even daytime yet...wait till Thurs Eve China Time!
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November 27, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
The safest bet for a quality design which will exceed the specified hash rate and will definitely ship sometime in 2014, is KNC. There's no doubt.

I have a feeling, however, the other companies will stick to 28nm for awhile and cater toward the house-based mining folk, as it appears KNC is propelling toward more industrial consumers.

If you were to spend money on a miner right now, your best bet is KNC. To me, there's too many variables with what the returns will be like in 4-6 months, I'd rather find something now and burn it up until it's no longer viable, and move forward with the earnings.
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November 27, 2013, 11:15:56 AM
4 Spots filled, 6 to go!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3736144

Almost no FEE! 6.7%, and you get 280GH for doing nothing!
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November 27, 2013, 11:11:15 AM
I have paid for two neptune miners, but just waiting on confirmation.
It is a bit of a risk i'll suppose but he who dares Rodney and all that.

If the price keep rising like this then it should pay dividends if they arrive in Q1
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November 27, 2013, 11:02:33 AM
Fun watching the shameless begging going on here Smiley

Fun watching us go over 1k too, which isn't that crazy as it's not even a 10% rise over the day ...small % rises will make a mark now it's this high.

I'm not diving in the new Neptune thing so far ahead of time if at all, but I haven't seen many people mention the likely (based on previous experience) delivery of rigs delivering far over the promised hashpower? They won't claim more until it's proved of course, but it seems likely to me.

If you were considering an order from elsewhere and saw this happen from a proven company...timed to come online before your rig had broken even (if it ever arrived), what would you do? Excellent timing of this offer from KNC if you think about that. Unlike other manufacturers, they have proved they can do it. Would you rather be mining  with KNC machines in 3 months or competing against them, or waiting for delivery even? Bit of a no-brainer to me even though I dislike some things they do.
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November 27, 2013, 10:36:27 AM
To the folks who've added KNC modules, how did you do your cooling? I saw some custom setups recently, but can't find what page they were on. Someone I know has modules but not the metal mounting bars, so trying to figure out a way to solve that for them.
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November 27, 2013, 10:28:24 AM
Hi Guys!

This is my shipping info:

Jupiter, Order #85xx
Received my tracking number about an hour ago.
Order payed on october 5.

Final destination: SOUTH AMERICA!!
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Clueless!
November 27, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
Happy $1000 everyone!!

https://i.imgur.com/bzxDNqh.jpg




er ..this is somewhat unnerving in that I got my Jupiter oct 18th exactly 1 month and 9 days ago and to the best of my knowledge BTC was about $150 USD.

I need to watch the Princess Bride as a hedge to what MAY happen ...er ...direction wise that is....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZIlAExvneo

hope the above does not apply any time soon.

Searing
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Clueless!
November 27, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
Is there a Neptune Order Thread  on bitcointalk.org??  ..would like to see where I stack up in the que..11xx .... assuming such exists?


I threw one up for you

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/knc-miner-list-of-orders-neptune-348957

thanks added an unpaid line for people holding in the queue. I have others locally who may be interested.
The unpaid Neptune units will roll back to KNC queue in 15 days if unpaid.

Searing
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November 27, 2013, 10:18:05 AM
Oh my god
Bitcoin is crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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November 27, 2013, 10:09:18 AM
Just want to contribute my shipping info:

Jupiter, Order #86XX
Received tracking ~17 minutes ago.
Order invoiced on 10/1 @ 2 PM CT.

same Smiley hope i get it till friday.
they suggest a 1200W 80 gold+ UPS. now that's gonna be some power...
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November 27, 2013, 10:02:37 AM
Don't everyone cash out at once.. that causes drops lol!

Whether you have a Block Erupter or 30 Jupiters, you are part of this huge piece of history. This is no small step. This currency form, or a derivative, will likely be in place centuries from now. And we were all a part of it.

Feels good to be one of the few to say, I was one of the first to break ground in cryptocurrency!
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November 27, 2013, 09:57:09 AM
History!  Cheesy
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November 27, 2013, 09:54:17 AM
Just want to contribute my shipping info:

Jupiter, Order #86XX
Received tracking ~17 minutes ago.
Order invoiced on 10/1 @ 2 PM CT.
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