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Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 964. (Read 3050073 times)

hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
November 26, 2013, 10:21:09 AM
If you're on the fence, you'd better make up your mind quick!  I woke up just in time and got order #113xx.

And for those of you comparing early batch Cointerra and HashFast to this deal... those buyers paid a hell of a lot more than 12 BTC for their orders.

And I can guarantee that you could sell your KNC preorder on eBay this moment for double what you just paid, lol.
legendary
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November 26, 2013, 10:19:26 AM
Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.

Where did you read that? Did you call them ?
legendary
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November 26, 2013, 10:18:38 AM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/estimate-of-asic-pre-orders-13-to-15-phs-diff-18b-to-21b-by-end-of-2013-283820)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.

what do you about 30 PH/s estimate for the end of March 2014?
legendary
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LIR DEV
November 26, 2013, 10:15:26 AM
Yes folks, the Neptine is a terrible deal.... Don't do it!
You are better off buying my October Jupiter for 12k right now,
and letting Me take the risk!......     Grin
Going for much more on EBay
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November 26, 2013, 10:12:41 AM
Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.


 
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November 26, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
The best method is to do exactly what folks on ebay are doing.. ebay/resell for 2..3...7x the original cost.

KNC should've kept a "home user" product line along with the "commercial" model. The latter will most assuredly hash more than 4TH, I bet 6TH.. but most home-users can't power that.

Doing another NRE allows them to pad the cost as well.

It's good to be the shovel retailer in a gold rush.
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cryptoshark
November 26, 2013, 10:09:54 AM
very bad deal imho.

for knc product september delivery is half october

Q2 is half june

what for pay so much and pray for the next 6 months ? or more ?

to be first in the line ?
to have miner one month sooner (but maybe 5x more expensive like it was in jupiter 1/2)

ridiculous.

hero member
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November 26, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/estimate-of-asic-pre-orders-13-to-15-phs-diff-18b-to-21b-by-end-of-2013-283820)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.
sr. member
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November 26, 2013, 10:08:06 AM
Got to be in it to Win it.

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Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
sr. member
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November 26, 2013, 10:06:43 AM
Is this the mother of all preorders?  Roll Eyes
I 'm stunned by the amount of people that rushed to click the order button, like it's just a cinema ticket or something...
legendary
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November 26, 2013, 10:06:34 AM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/estimate-of-asic-pre-orders-13-to-15-phs-diff-18b-to-21b-by-end-of-2013-283820)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.
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November 26, 2013, 10:03:46 AM
Sorry guys but this is a crappy deal all over, but please feed the Swedish industry, they don't have the oil Smiley



* Possible data input errors Smiley
sr. member
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November 26, 2013, 10:03:10 AM
Got to be in it to Win it.

#1116x  1 x Neptune.


 Wink

I wonder if order numbers start at 11000, and will go to 12500?
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November 26, 2013, 10:02:33 AM


..ok, and? That's what we already know
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November 26, 2013, 10:01:37 AM
Anybody wants an additional 300GH for free?  Use my KnC link below when you order.  I have ordered 2 already and 8 more to go and we will own a free Neptune together.  PM after your order is paid for.  1st 8 Neptunes ordered through my link will share 1/10 of the free Neptune (subject to KnC verification).

I will host the Neptune for free.

https://www.kncminer.com/?resellerid=354
legendary
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LIR DEV
November 26, 2013, 10:00:30 AM
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November 26, 2013, 09:58:58 AM
I honestly would rather have 4 Jupiters for 10k today.  Why create new chips when the old ones are enough?

^-- This.

Doing a new NRE allows them to pad their pockets, for one ..
sr. member
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November 26, 2013, 09:58:05 AM
Got to be in it to Win it.

#1116x  1 x Neptune.


 Wink

Isn't that the slogan for the lottery?   Tongue
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November 26, 2013, 09:57:42 AM
This is really a tough decision when you think about it.  BTC could rise 30% in a week which will make this cost much less...  and if BTC goes down just pay with bank transfer.   They could sell out..  or you can wait for the regular batch to go on sale in a few months and pay 1/2 as much when BTC doubles.   Really tough to predict what will be around in Q1/Q2.    

I honestly would rather have 4 Jupiters for 10k today.  Why create new chips when the old ones are enough?

I jumped at buying 1 and i'll stick with that due to power concerns but even waiting a day could make this 1BTC cheaper.  The other reason I purchased was KNC has treated me very well and I support them as a company.  
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November 26, 2013, 09:57:01 AM
how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers
30Btc in March 15btc in April, but prices can be 1000$ or 100$ for 1BTC, now all Jupiter's owners give up their Btc back to knc unknown projects 10000$ x 1200 =12mil$ and the chips manufacturing cost only 4,3$ mil

What on earth difficulty setting are you using? Are you ignoring the mega PH coming online within 90 days??
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