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newbie
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I'm new to Syscoin, so this might sound stupid but is Syscoin really 100% decentralized? Are the goods which are offered on the marketplace controlled by the developers? Decentralized mixing and anonymity is really great and important overall but without some regulatory power this could easily turn into some kind of dark web marketplace like Silkroad 2.0 🤔
newbie
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Hello Syscoin community,

We have listed Syscoin on our brand new exchange Coinhouse.eu

https://coinhouse.eu/markets/sysbtc

We hope to welcome you all soon

have fun,

Team coinhouse
hero member
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hero member
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I heard that syscoin is re branding this month. Is that rumor is true or its just like 15 December fake news?

https://twitter.com/ballisticarts/status/940655778578477056
full member
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I heard that syscoin is re branding this month. Is that rumor is true or its just like 15 December fake news?
newbie
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From the feedback we’ve received so far, it’s not limited to zCash forks.
newbie
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Greetings, friends at Syscoin! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug, and as a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible. We are reaching out directly to the developers and communities of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own wallet).

watchonly-GUI bug: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal. You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

We want to spread awareness and facilitate discussion of this bug to minimize the impact.

Of course - we can always talk about how you can use BarterDEX today to trade Syscoin via atomic swap directly with your peers, through our beta GUI and without downloading the entire blockchain ; ) That is how we found the bug, afterall.

Stay safe,
Jay
Blockmarket does use watch only addresses but i thought ismine filter is false for those. I will check on qt but it wont affect our users too much imo.

My question to James again I havent looked at the code but if you have the redeemscript and all keys involved i  p2sh then indeed it can be classified as your address since you solely own that p2sh(only you can sign off on in it). He should check the ismine function for verification of that. Ismine_watchonly is for when you have an address that you dont own all the keys for including p2sh. Thats off top of my head. If keys in keystore >= keys in p2sh then ismine = true else ismine =watch only

Next question. Are you sure this bug isnt inherited from zcash? Since he forked from zcash.

Great question. I believe the suspicion is there, but that's part of the reason we are reaching out to other projects - to see how they handle their watchonly addresses.

Thank you for the feedback
legendary
Activity: 2044
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Greetings, friends at Syscoin! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug, and as a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible. We are reaching out directly to the developers and communities of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own wallet).

watchonly-GUI bug: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal. You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet:

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

We want to spread awareness and facilitate discussion of this bug to minimize the impact.

Of course - we can always talk about how you can use BarterDEX today to trade Syscoin via atomic swap directly with your peers, through our beta GUI and without downloading the entire blockchain ; ) That is how we found the bug, afterall.

Stay safe,
Jay
Blockmarket does use watch only addresses but i thought ismine filter is false for those. I will check on qt but it wont affect our users too much imo.

My question to James again I havent looked at the code but if you have the redeemscript and all keys involved i  p2sh then indeed it can be classified as your address since you solely own that p2sh(only you can sign off on in it). He should check the ismine function for verification of that. Ismine_watchonly is for when you have an address that you dont own all the keys for including p2sh. Thats off top of my head. If keys in keystore >= keys in p2sh then ismine = true else ismine =watch only

Next question. Are you sure this bug isnt inherited from zcash? Since he forked from zcash.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Greetings, friends at Syscoin! As Komodo Platform has been working around the clock to fine-tune the multiple GUI's that are the face of our Agama multiwallet and BarterDEX atomic swap protocols, there have obviously been many bugs found and many debugged. However, one bug in particular was found not only in our Agama GUI wallet, but also in the zcash4mac GUI swing wallet. It is a simple bug, but it warrants your attention. This is a potential money cost bug, and as a Bitcoin-protocol cryptocurrency, your GUI wallet(s) may be susceptible. We are reaching out directly to the developers and communities of the 60+ coins featured on Agama and BarterDEX as the bug may have a direct impact on you (via your own wallet).

watchonly-GUI bug: 'watchonly' addresses appearing as your own in GUI wallet; users could potentially send funds to the address, unaware it is not theirs or available for withdrawal. You can import and it becomes a 'watchonly' address. The GUI will display the address as yours, add its funds to your balance, and accept deposits, but cannot be withdrawn. This could be a normal address, my address, a p2sh address, satoshi's address, etc. This can be confusing to an end-user and will lead to many headaches for the developer, as is always the case with misplaced funds.

FOUND: in Komodo Platform's Agama multiwallet (fixed) and zcash4mac GUI swing wallet (@jl777b: "newest QT wallet seems ok about watch only, but not sure of older and when it was fixed")

ex. @grewalsatinder found the bug in his zcash swing wallet: https://i.imgur.com/sVd0QTL.png

Quote from: jl777B
"satinder used zcash4mac, ie. the zcash osx GUI, not ours... the assumption is no GUI out there properly handles watch only addresses, until proven that they do... agama also had this bug, which we found and fixed, so it seems a very common bug to have"

SOLUTION: For the 'watchonly' address or any address not yours, the value 'ismine' returns false. Any such address gets filtered out.

QUESTIONS:
  • How does your recommended GUI deal with watchonly addresses?
  • Does your GUI display watchonly addresses as different than actual addresses in the wallet?

We need to experiment a bit to see which approach gets a better response triggering the bug. People WILL lose money if they send funds to a watchonly address.

Quote from: jl777B
"the t3 addresses in the 'Own Addresses' column! and they absolutely cant be as they are p2sh addresses. it is clear proof that the bug is very real and anybody that understands a p2sh address will understand it cant be something in your wallet. it is usually a multisig address, so only if it is a 1of1 multisig (possible but very silly) can you have a p2sh address that is spendable, but the wallet wont even know it... normal addresses can also be watchonly, which makes this even worse. in that case it would appear in the list of addresses just like all the others. even if you are able to spot p2sh addresses visually, it wont be enough"

We want to spread awareness and facilitate discussion of this bug to minimize the impact.

Of course - we can always talk about how you can use BarterDEX today to trade Syscoin via atomic swap directly with your peers, through our beta GUI and without downloading the entire blockchain ; ) That is how we found the bug, afterall.

Stay safe,
Jay
hero member
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Is there anywhere a step by step guide to setting up a masternode with syscoin? I really want to build one, but i don´t really know how to do this. Maybe someone can help me with this.

https://medium.com/@bittyjohn1954/syscoin-2-2-beta-2-with-masternodes-cold-setup-unofficial-guide-assuming-a-clean-install-81ae393e6415

And join Slack at join.syscoin.org and ask for an invite
legendary
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Well, That's Crypto :-\
That feeling of SYS first thing in the morning


hero member
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Life is a taxable event
Could a syscoin 1.0 wallet that had been left alone be converted to syscoin 2 or did the cutoff date mean that those coins are lost forever?

You can just import the private key and it should work. Go to Slack it you have issues  join.syscoin.org

I got  my syscoin 2.0 successfully.

The client synced up really quickly too.
legendary
Activity: 1120
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Is there anywhere a step by step guide to setting up a masternode with syscoin? I really want to build one, but i don´t really know how to do this. Maybe someone can help me with this.
hero member
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NEW! Syscoin decentralized mixing service is functional. Combining anonymous transactions to create anonymous marketplaces. To be released Q1-2018 with Syscoin 2.2

https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/941010562003226627
hero member
Activity: 575
Merit: 500
Could a syscoin 1.0 wallet that had been left alone be converted to syscoin 2 or did the cutoff date mean that those coins are lost forever?

You can just import the private key and it should work. Go to Slack it you have issues  join.syscoin.org
hero member
Activity: 1492
Merit: 763
Life is a taxable event
Could a syscoin 1.0 wallet that had been left alone be converted to syscoin 2 or did the cutoff date mean that those coins are lost forever?
sr. member
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Syscoin Auth Lib and Instant Asset Transfers

Syscoin Authentication Library


We are working on a brand new innovation that allows us to authenticate to a database leveraging our zero-knowledge authentication to Blockmarket. This will allow us to leverage off-chain cloud solutions to store data but validate and verify just like a blockchain does. We will extend this service to all Syscoin services that need extended information above and beyond the small kilobyte limits imposed on the fields for on-chain data. Stay tuned!

Instant Asset Transfers

Instant asset transfers are taking advantage of instant transactions and marrying them with Syscoin service requests to produce record-breaking speeds of transfers among all service transactions. One we will focus on is assets as being able to transfer assets (tokens) across the network instantly is a big competitive advantage over other asset implementations including ERC20 tokens on Ethereum. Currently our network will be able to support 750 settlement of transactions per second (assuming roughly 230 bytes per transaction) which is already world-class in terms of settlement speed. However Instant Transactions can increase this exponentially by allowing merchants and consumers to rely on the fact that inputs are locked by the Masternode guardians of the network. This allows for instant confirmation of transfers and corresponding business logic that ensues the transfer can act immediately upon the transfer rather than waiting for settlement on blockchain. With Instant Transactions we have estimated that Transactions Per Second will range between 100k TPS and 300k TPS depending the number of Masternodes, we have estimated somewhere in the range of 1000 to 3000 Masternodes which correspond to the TPS numbers above respectively, scaling up over a few years. The more masternodes there are on the network, the higher the potential TPS rate. Onboarding of over 3000 Masternodes creates a network capable of exceeding 300,000 TPS.

As we continue to develop our Asset specification we are also working with partners currently under NDA to issue large-scale commercialized business models which will be tokenized and issued via ICOs on our blockchain (possibly and most likely through our marketplace). Because we are leveraging Alias Identities to work with Assets they are instantly usable across all other services such as the marketplace. You will be able to sell goods and services through offers on the marketplace and even accept assets as a valid form of payment, which can be transferred to escrow just like how coins can be held in escrow. This allows for a powerful network affect for issuers and users of assets to leverage all existing services and network affects in the Syscoin to their benefit which in turn will help grow the entire ecosystem as a result.

We are evolving our specification to meet the needs of these partners and work towards a finalized goal of something that fits the business needs of industry professionals. It is always better to work with stakeholders to define requirements and develop accordingly rather than force stakeholders to conform to the system that was engineered and thought out by software developers since business requirements are sometimes not captured and thus developers may produce a less-than-ideal deliverable which may hinder adoption. In the blockchain industry it is hard to determine who stakeholders are but because we have a corporate layer on top of Syscoin with Blockchain Foundry, we feel we are in a better position to find and coordinate with professionals who will partner with us to develop solutions that fits their, and most likely others, needs.

In the next few days we will finalize our specification and begin coding Assets. In the meanwhile our Masternode testnet 3 is running smooth and we are preparing testnet 4 to test out Instant Asset Transfers which is another innovation built on top of the Masternode framework by the Syscoin developers. To recap some of the value added features added by our developers on top of Dashpay’s masternode framework are as follows:

1. Split fees of all transactions including Syscoin service transactions, Instant Sends, mixing transactions between miners and masternodes.

2. Seniority system act as bonds to incentivize owners of Syscoin to hold onto their coins as they recieve more rewards should they wish to run as a Masternode the longer they bond their coins. Up to 27% increased ROI can be expected for the Masternode service providers with the highest seniority.

3. Instant Asset Transfers allows assets to be sent across the network within seconds, providing a point-of-sale type of environment for Syscoin services as well as standard coin transfers.

https://medium.com/@BlockchainFoundry/syscoin-auth-lib-and-instant-asset-transfers-2e2836d6ebd2

https://twitter.com/syscoin/status/940697079638355968
hero member
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I just bough a Nano ledger S and I was quite disappointed that Syscoin is not yet supported.
Especially when you see what other (crap) coins do already have a wallet available there.
Can someone from the team please inform us when a SYS wallet will be made availble for the Nano ledger S ?
Thanks

You need to contact Ledger for that they are the ones holding it up.
sr. member
Activity: 413
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I just bough a Nano ledger S and I was quite disappointed that Syscoin is not yet supported.
Especially when you see what other (crap) coins do already have a wallet available there.
Can someone from the team please inform us when a SYS wallet will be made availble for the Nano ledger S ?
Thanks
hero member
Activity: 1302
Merit: 540
Syscoin is very good and i think the devs will deliver things in the future we cannat imagine at the moment. 2018 will be a great year for all the supporters.
Updates is very important as people around here are looking for reason why they will buy and support any projects that was introduce, as we are
moving forward and we already witness how great this coin can be then its now time for the team to give some glimpse of those possible events
that will make this coin more useful in this coming year.
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