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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 14, 2022, 01:17:02 PM

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One simple tweet doesn't mean that he has some sort of backing. Shashi Tharoor is also fan of Indian cricket team and when some new kid turning out to be a speedster then everybody will get excited. It also happened with Nagarkoti when he ran havoc in U19 WC but poor guy got injured.
I guess everyone has a same opinion about Pandya as far as his off field behavior goes but at the same we can't ignore the fact that now he's trying to change his public image due to very same reasons and as cricketer performing quite well too.

In case of Pandya, I agree. He is a family man now and I agree that he's trying quite hard to improve his reputation. But the same can't be said about Kohli. He continues to behave like a monkey, both on-field and off-field. BTW, it's strange that you mentioned about Nagarkoti. There was so much hype about him after the U-19 world cup. And although his bowling partner (Shivam Mavi) is now a regular in the IPL fixtures, I haven't heard anything about Nagarkoti for quite some time now. Anyway, I just hope that Umran won't end up like Nagarkoti.

Kohli's behavior was never good. As the captain of the Indian team, I would be more comfortable to see a calm person like Ishan Kishan or Rohit Sharma. However, Kohli should be more calm. Don't be bizarre. He is old enough. He really needs to mature now. At the same time he needs to practice more. If the poor performance continues like this, he will be expelled from the Indian team.

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In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

Will BCCI give Virat Kohli a spot in the World Cup squad if he continues to perform poorly? India has a lot of talented players who are doing much better than Virat Kohli recently. I think Virat Kohli will probably be kept with the squad for the group stage matches, but after that BCCI will not give Kohli another chance unless his performance improves.

No matter what but he will surely get a spot in the worldcup squad. BCCI will not leave him considering his performance in the past. In the past he had ruined every ICC tournament as a captain but considering his previous batting performance i am hopeful that he will get a spot.

Virat Kohli was a great player in the past. He is batting brilliantly against any team in all formats. He is very experienced. Considering this aspect, maybe Virat Kohli can get a place in the India team. But considering the performance, Virat Kohli does not deserve a place in the Indian team now.
However, Kohli did not play well against England in today's match. He returned to the dressing room after collecting only 16 runs from 25 balls.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 14, 2022, 02:44:49 AM

One simple tweet doesn't mean that he has some sort of backing. Shashi Tharoor is also fan of Indian cricket team and when some new kid turning out to be a speedster then everybody will get excited. It also happened with Nagarkoti when he ran havoc in U19 WC but poor guy got injured.

I guess everyone has a same opinion about Pandya as far as his off field behavior goes but at the same we can't ignore the fact that now he's trying to change his public image due to very same reasons and as cricketer performing quite well too.

In case of Pandya, I agree. He is a family man now and I agree that he's trying quite hard to improve his reputation. But the same can't be said about Kohli. He continues to behave like a monkey, both on-field and off-field. BTW, it's strange that you mentioned about Nagarkoti. There was so much hype about him after the U-19 world cup. And although his bowling partner (Shivam Mavi) is now a regular in the IPL fixtures, I haven't heard anything about Nagarkoti for quite some time now. Anyway, I just hope that Umran won't end up like Nagarkoti.

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In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

Will BCCI give Virat Kohli a spot in the World Cup squad if he continues to perform poorly? India has a lot of talented players who are doing much better than Virat Kohli recently. I think Virat Kohli will probably be kept with the squad for the group stage matches, but after that BCCI will not give Kohli another chance unless his performance improves.

Virat Kohli is playing a lot of games day by day but it seems that day by day he is moving away from the game. Playing such a game doesn't seem like he can do anything anymore. If Virat Kohli wants to do well, he has to play well.

Indian Cricket has a lot of potential players who are very much talented. If BCCI give the chance to another one instead of kohli that would not be worst decision but BCCI probably wants him because he has a lot of experience which can bring success in the upcoming T20 World Cup.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 13, 2022, 12:08:27 PM

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Personally, I don't like Kohli's behavior either. However, these behaviors often have an effect on the opposing batsmen. However, despite his bad behavior, he is a great player. After 2019 till now we have not seen any good performance from Kohli. However, do not forget that the team needs experienced players on platforms like the World Cup. It is difficult to perform well in the World Cup depending on the young players. And I'm not the one with you that India needs a young captain in the World Cup. Choosing a captain without experience will have a devastating effect on the Indian team.

LOL.. 2019 is like three years ago. This guy still managed to cling on to the spot in the playing XI. But recently he has suffered some setbacks, after new captains were appointed for various formats. And in selection he is not being given a free hand. When damaadji (Ravi Shastri) was there, Kohli was behaving like a dictator. But with the new coach, it is no longer possible. And the BCCI guys (Shah and Ganguly) also seems to have got the courage to confront him. On top of that, a section of the population is against him due to the controversy related to BLM and Diwali.

If a player consistently performs poorly, it is only natural that the board and spectators will go against him. Had the player not been Kohli, BCCI would not have given so many opportunities. Even if a player plays poorly in two consecutive series, BCCI selects his substitute. But Kohli has not been in form for almost 3 years. And so the Indian board officials do not want to see Kohli in the team now. At the same time, the fans are also very upset with him.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 13, 2022, 12:42:28 PM

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I feel you are forming your opinion due to his off field life, which was bad obviously but after his long break from the cricket (almost 2 years) he's proving himself quite handy for the team. First in IPL and now in recent bilateral series. According to current form he along with the Bumrah, Jadeja, SKY are among the first few names to get entry in the playing XI without any doubt.

I don't know where did you get idea of Umran Malik having powerful backers. He's only getting chances in national team (in dead rubber match only) due to his raw pace and nothing else. He's not finished product but there is a possibility of improvement. Might be a good idea if he gets to tour more with the India A and additionally play for another state instead of J&K due to more eyeballs.

Regarding Umran, I was referring to the tweet by Shashi Tharoor. When a parliamentarian demands that a player needs to be immediately included in the national squad, you can assume that he has good political connections. And being a female, I have my reservations about Hardick Pandya. To be frank, he is quite disgusting. Once he openly claimed that he is of Jamaican descent and his so called parents are not real. Then there was a rape allegation involving a lady from Gujarat. And a few months back, he got in to trouble with the IT department for refusing to pay duty for imported luxury watches.

One simple tweet doesn't mean that he has some sort of backing. Shashi Tharoor is also fan of Indian cricket team and when some new kid turning out to be a speedster then everybody will get excited. It also happened with Nagarkoti when he ran havoc in U19 WC but poor guy got injured.

I guess everyone has a same opinion about Pandya as far as his off field behaviour goes but at the same we can't ignore the fact that now he's trying to change his public image due to very same reasons and as cricketer performing quite well too.

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Quote from: kro55 on July 14, 2022, 12:29:17 AM

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In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

Will BCCI give Virat Kohli a spot in the World Cup squad if he continues to perform poorly? India has a lot of talented players who are doing much better than Virat Kohli recently. I think Virat Kohli will probably be kept with the squad for the group stage matches, but after that BCCI will not give Kohli another chance unless his performance improves.

No matter what but he will surely get a spot in the worldcup squad. BCCI will not leave him considering his performance in the past. In the past he had ruined every ICC tournament as a captain but considering his previous batting performance i am hopeful that he will get a spot.

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In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

Will BCCI give Virat Kohli a spot in the World Cup squad if he continues to perform poorly? India has a lot of talented players who are doing much better than Virat Kohli recently. I think Virat Kohli will probably be kept with the squad for the group stage matches, but after that BCCI will not give Kohli another chance unless his performance improves.

Virat Kohli is playing a lot of games day by day but it seems that day by day he is moving away from the game. Playing such a game doesn't seem like he can do anything anymore. If Virat Kohli wants to do well, he has to play well.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on July 13, 2022, 10:55:27 PM

In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

Will BCCI give Virat Kohli a spot in the World Cup squad if he continues to perform poorly? India has a lot of talented players who are doing much better than Virat Kohli recently. I think Virat Kohli will probably be kept with the squad for the group stage matches, but after that BCCI will not give Kohli another chance unless his performance improves.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 13, 2022, 09:55:27 PM

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Sledging in the game is completely different thing because this is happening in many other games as well, but now his behavior is also not acceptable with he is going down in moral day by day which is creating big issue for him and rest of team's moral as well.

There is no doubt he is a quality player, but now it's almost three years and peoples feeling him like a burden on Team India with too many youngsters already in pipeline for waiting their chance in this team, and they can replace him in quick way with some better performance, but backers are not allowing for any change and still hanging him around which is surely a big mistake and can creating more feud around the team it's time for change with something better quality and performance.

Selectors already made some big moves when they removed Kohli as the captain. But dropping him from the XI is like playing with fire. He remains as the most popular player in India and if the replacement fails to perform, then the selectors will be under firing line. But the sad part is that Kohli's downfall started when he began giving more importance to activism rather than sports. He antagonized a lot of people with his negative opinion on various subjects. Another year or two with such performance, and it will be difficult to justify his position in the team.

In my opinion after the T20 world cup he might get dropped, if he continues to perform in the same manner. It has been three years now and I haven't seen him doing wonders with his bat. His attitude remains the same on the field but his batting is getting worst with every match he plays. There are far better players available at the moment who can replace Kohli.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on July 13, 2022, 01:16:40 PM

Sledging in the game is completely different thing because this is happening in many other games as well, but now his behavior is also not acceptable with he is going down in moral day by day which is creating big issue for him and rest of team's moral as well.

There is no doubt he is a quality player, but now it's almost three years and peoples feeling him like a burden on Team India with too many youngsters already in pipeline for waiting their chance in this team, and they can replace him in quick way with some better performance, but backers are not allowing for any change and still hanging him around which is surely a big mistake and can creating more feud around the team it's time for change with something better quality and performance.

Selectors already made some big moves when they removed Kohli as the captain. But dropping him from the XI is like playing with fire. He remains as the most popular player in India and if the replacement fails to perform, then the selectors will be under firing line. But the sad part is that Kohli's downfall started when he began giving more importance to activism rather than sports. He antagonized a lot of people with his negative opinion on various subjects. Another year or two with such performance, and it will be difficult to justify his position in the team.

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each player is different and I remember that there was a time when other team player’s were sledging Indian’s, but Kohli took the fight to them however lately he’s lost his way and as harsh as it may sound maybe axing him may not be a bad idea. Also I do understand that the player who’ll replace him will be under tremendous pressure, but if Kohli can’t score big anytime soon then he should step aside and let another player step up and perform for the team.

Sledging in the game is completely different thing because this is happening in many other games as well, but now his behavior is also not acceptable with he is going down in moral day by day which is creating big issue for him and rest of team's moral as well.

There is no doubt he is a quality player, but now it's almost three years and peoples feeling him like a burden on Team India with too many youngsters already in pipeline for waiting their chance in this team, and they can replace him in quick way with some better performance, but backers are not allowing for any change and still hanging him around which is surely a big mistake and can creating more feud around the team it's time for change with something better quality and performance.

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Quote from: JSRAW on July 13, 2022, 12:17:15 PM

I feel you are forming your opinion due to his off field life, which was bad obviously but after his long break from the cricket (almost 2 years) he's proving himself quite handy for the team. First in IPL and now in recent bilateral series. According to current form he along with the Bumrah, Jadeja, SKY are among the first few names to get entry in the playing XI without any doubt.

I don't know where did you get idea of Umran Malik having powerful backers. He's only getting chances in national team (in dead rubber match only) due to his raw pace and nothing else. He's not finished product but there is a possibility of improvement. Might be a good idea if he gets to tour more with the India A and additionally play for another state instead of J&K due to more eyeballs.

Regarding Umran, I was referring to the tweet by Shashi Tharoor. When a parliamentarian demands that a player needs to be immediately included in the national squad, you can assume that he has good political connections. And being a female, I have my reservations about Hardick Pandya. To be frank, he is quite disgusting. Once he openly claimed that he is of Jamaican descent and his so called parents are not real. Then there was a rape allegation involving a lady from Gujarat. And a few months back, he got in to trouble with the IT department for refusing to pay duty for imported luxury watches.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 12, 2022, 09:20:50 PM

The selection policy for the Indian national team is quite shitty. They retained Hard dick Pandya for many years despite not performing. And in case of Kohli, he has too many godfathers to be dropped. There is no dearth of talent and a lot of quality young players have impressed in the IPL. But the step from IPL franchise to national team is not easy. In case of players such as Umran Malik, who have powerful backers, it is easier. For players such as Natarajan and Venkatesh Iyer, one bad performance is all that needs to lose the position from playing XI.

I feel you are forming your opinion due to his off field life, which was bad obviously but after his long break from the cricket (almost 2 years) he's proving himself quite handy for the team. First in IPL and now in recent bilateral series. According to current form he along with the Bumrah, Jadeja, SKY are among the first few names to get entry in the playing XI without any doubt.

I don't know where did you get idea of Umran Malik having powerful backers. He's only getting chances in national team (in dead rubber match only) due to his raw pace and nothing else. He's not finished product but there is a possibility of improvement. Might be a good idea if he gets to tour more with the India A and additionally play for another state instead of J&K due to more eyeballs.

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Quote from: BALIK on July 13, 2022, 03:31:13 AM

Personally, I don't like Kohli's behavior either. However, these behaviors often have an effect on the opposing batsmen. However, despite his bad behavior, he is a great player. After 2019 till now we have not seen any good performance from Kohli. However, do not forget that the team needs experienced players on platforms like the World Cup. It is difficult to perform well in the World Cup depending on the young players. And I'm not the one with you that India needs a young captain in the World Cup. Choosing a captain without experience will have a devastating effect on the Indian team.

LOL.. 2019 is like three years ago. This guy still managed to cling on to the spot in the playing XI. But recently he has suffered some setbacks, after new captains were appointed for various formats. And in selection he is not being given a free hand. When damaadji (Ravi Shastri) was there, Kohli was behaving like a dictator. But with the new coach, it is no longer possible. And the BCCI guys (Shah and Ganguly) also seems to have got the courage to confront him. On top of that, a section of the population is against him due to the controversy related to BLM and Diwali.

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The thing is in any T20 match it does not take too much time to turn on its head for any player. and we all know that Virat Kohli is a very capable player.

So, it is very easy for him to play a cameo and win the match for his team. But is it really a smart idea to keep him on the team just to hope that the day will come?

Not to mention not giving other players the chances that they probably deserve more than he does? Not a favorable situation for Virat Kohli.

The selection policy for the Indian national team is quite shitty. They retained Hard dick Pandya for many years despite not performing. And in case of Kohli, he has too many godfathers to be dropped. There is no dearth of talent and a lot of quality young players have impressed in the IPL. But the step from IPL franchise to national team is not easy. In case of players such as Umran Malik, who have powerful backers, it is easier. For players such as Natarajan and Venkatesh Iyer, one bad performance is all that needs to lose the position from playing XI.

Surely this is very interesting for me because with this all now I am feeling still region or political influence is having big hand in BCCI or selectors work because I was feeling now with this all money and better environment things are change but nothing is positive for this all they are still in dilemma which is not good for any country or sports authority.

If backers strongly pushing players like Virat Kohli. Umran Malik and Harthik Pandya which are not in good form and having no faith in talented players like Natarajan and Venkatesh Iyer then surely they are living in dark ages and having far behind system like Australia and New Zealand where talent is going to have big impact, and they are mostly at top with player's talent.

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Quote from: GigaBit on July 11, 2022, 10:27:54 PM

The Indian Cricket Board wants Virat Kohli to play in the T20 World Cup. Although his day is not going well now. Most likely some more matches could give him a chance. However, in this case, there are more players, combination new and old, they should be given a chance. But now it is understood that India is doing its best to keep the whole T20 World Cup in front of it to do better. However, it is not yet clear whether the player will change in the T20 squad.

Don’t think it is a wise idea to play Virat Kohli in the T20 World Cup. He is not in form at all.

Right now, it feels like experimenting with a young prospect is going to be a safer option than giving Virat Kohli that chance to play in the World Cup. I don’t think he will be able to perform well in the World Cup.

He should have taken a break quite some time ago, but just because of his ego and obstinacy, he did not take a break. His situation is not much better either. If they are thinking about any other players to play in the World Cup in place of Virat Kohli, they should replace Virat Kohli already.

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India needs experienced players like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma on a platform like the World Cup. Virat Kohli is now going through the worst time of his career. He has been consistently performing poorly, and the BCCI is still keeping them in the squad. Because BCCI now wants Kohli to perform in the World Cup. But in the next two series, if Virat Kohli fails consistently and cannot perform well. Then I don't think BCCI will keep Virat Kohli in the World Cup squad.

I disagree with your suggestion. Virat has proved to be a panauti (bad omen) for India in ICC tournaments, without exception. And his bad luck starts with the toss itself. I have reasons to believe that if India wants to win any of the ICC trophies, then Kohli needs to be kicked out of the playing XI. And his monkey like behavior on the field is irritating for people like me. He is now in his mid 30s and should know how to behave in front of the crowd. First of all, India needs someone young as the captain, and oldies such as Kohli needs to be kicked out.

Personally, I don't like Kohli's behavior either. However, these behaviors often have an effect on the opposing batsmen. However, despite his bad behavior, he is a great player. After 2019 till now we have not seen any good performance from Kohli. However, do not forget that the team needs experienced players on platforms like the World Cup. It is difficult to perform well in the World Cup depending on the young players. And I'm not the one with you that India needs a young captain in the World Cup. Choosing a captain without experience will have a devastating effect on the Indian team.

@Sithara007 each player is different and I remember that there was a time when other team player’s were sledging Indian’s, but Kohli took the fight to them however lately he’s lost his way and as harsh as it may sound maybe axing him may not be a bad idea. Also I do understand that the player who’ll replace him will be under tremendous pressure, but if Kohli can’t score big anytime soon then he should step aside and let another player step up and perform for the team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 12, 2022, 11:56:50 AM

Quote from: BALIK on July 12, 2022, 04:24:26 AM

India needs experienced players like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma on a platform like the World Cup. Virat Kohli is now going through the worst time of his career. He has been consistently performing poorly, and the BCCI is still keeping them in the squad. Because BCCI now wants Kohli to perform in the World Cup. But in the next two series, if Virat Kohli fails consistently and cannot perform well. Then I don't think BCCI will keep Virat Kohli in the World Cup squad.

I disagree with your suggestion. Virat has proved to be a panauti (bad omen) for India in ICC tournaments, without exception. And his bad luck starts with the toss itself. I have reasons to believe that if India wants to win any of the ICC trophies, then Kohli needs to be kicked out of the playing XI. And his monkey like behavior on the field is irritating for people like me. He is now in his mid 30s and should know how to behave in front of the crowd. First of all, India needs someone young as the captain, and oldies such as Kohli needs to be kicked out.

Personally, I don't like Kohli's behavior either. However, these behaviors often have an effect on the opposing batsmen. However, despite his bad behavior, he is a great player. After 2019 till now we have not seen any good performance from Kohli. However, do not forget that the team needs experienced players on platforms like the World Cup. It is difficult to perform well in the World Cup depending on the young players. And I'm not the one with you that India needs a young captain in the World Cup. Choosing a captain without experience will have a devastating effect on the Indian team.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 12, 2022, 11:56:50 AM

Quote from: BALIK on July 12, 2022, 04:24:26 AM

India needs experienced players like Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma on a platform like the World Cup. Virat Kohli is now going through the worst time of his career. He has been consistently performing poorly, and the BCCI is still keeping them in the squad. Because BCCI now wants Kohli to perform in the World Cup. But in the next two series, if Virat Kohli fails consistently and cannot perform well. Then I don't think BCCI will keep Virat Kohli in the World Cup squad.

I disagree with your suggestion. Virat has proved to be a panauti (bad omen) for India in ICC tournaments, without exception. And his bad luck starts with the toss itself. I have reasons to believe that if India wants to win any of the ICC trophies, then Kohli needs to be kicked out of the playing XI. And his monkey like behavior on the field is irritating for people like me. He is now in his mid 30s and should know how to behave in front of the crowd. First of all, India needs someone young as the captain, and oldies such as Kohli needs to be kicked out.

Sometime back I was also in favor of Virat Kohli, but now things are changing drastically, and he is falling down badly with this all selectors have some good choices for West Indies tour which is planned next month and having 3 ODI and 5 T20 matches, so they need to give him rest from this and World Cup for sack of Team India and send other youngsters those are in pipeline and waiting for their chance hopefully we will have better results and Kohli factor could be ended because he is now doing bad things in fielding as well with this all I am feeling he is now frustrated and having no better hopes for good future in this game of cricket.

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