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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 05, 2022, 06:06:12 AM

In case of Pakistan, it is understandable. Their women's team is not very strong and they qualified for the world cup just because the ICC played dirty tricks and disqualified Thailand. Here in India, I have noticed a major shift in popularity and people's opinion during the last few years. Some of the women's cricketers have become very popular. The W100 and WBBL have become popular in India, because some of the Indian players are taking part in these leagues. And I am sure that a seismic shift will occur next year, once the WIPL starts.

Good to see women cricket getting popular in India. I don't think Indian women team is one of strong teams they have just an average squad. BCCI that don't allow its men team to take part in any league has allowed its women team to take part in WBBL and W100 to gain experience. That's dual standards.

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Case of Australia and England is different. They not only give importance to women cricket rather all women sports are equally popular there. While in South Asia its opposite, Srilanka women team is touring Pakistan and the matches are played at 2nd tier grounds just because no one is coming to watch the matches.

In case of Pakistan, it is understandable. Their women's team is not very strong and they qualified for the world cup just because the ICC played dirty tricks and disqualified Thailand. Here in India, I have noticed a major shift in popularity and people's opinion during the last few years. Some of the women's cricketers have become very popular. The W100 and WBBL have become popular in India, because some of the Indian players are taking part in these leagues. And I am sure that a seismic shift will occur next year, once the WIPL starts.

Although this Indian T-20 W Challenge is complete joke for the Women's Cricket IMO, still 8-10k spectators went ahead and watched live from the ~~audience~~ stand and Hotstar also attracted many eyeball. Highest hit was close to 7 lakhs and lowest point was around couple of lakhs, so interest is there for sure.

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Quote from: galambo on June 05, 2022, 05:23:53 AM

Case of Australia and England is different. They not only give importance to women cricket rather all women sports are equally popular there. While in South Asia its opposite, Srilanka women team is touring Pakistan and the matches are played at 2nd tier grounds just because no one is coming to watch the matches.

In case of Pakistan, it is understandable. Their women's team is not very strong and they qualified for the world cup just because the ICC played dirty tricks and disqualified Thailand. Here in India, I have noticed a major shift in popularity and people's opinion during the last few years. Some of the women's cricketers have become very popular. The W100 and WBBL have become popular in India, because some of the Indian players are taking part in these leagues. And I am sure that a seismic shift will occur next year, once the WIPL starts.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 04, 2022, 10:21:26 PM

That is definitely not true, at least in England and Australia. Look at the viewership figures for the last season of WBBL and W100, and you will notice this. And even in South Asian nations such as India and Sri Lanka, the attitude is changing. I will give you some stats. The cumulative audience for WBBL 2021 was 5.36 million, which is comparable for BBL2021. In Australia, the WBBL is now the fourth most-watched local league (only the BBL, AFL and NRL are ahead of the WBBL as of now). According to Cricket Australia, women’s international cricket viewership also increased by 400% during the last four years.

Case of Australia and England is different. They not only give importance to women cricket rather all women sports are equally popular there. While in South Asia its opposite, Srilanka women team is touring Pakistan and the matches are played at 2nd tier grounds just because no one is coming to watch the matches.

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It's common everywhere - no one give much importance to women cricket teams - there is small news at the end of the bulletin which tells what are achievements of women players. There are hardly any spectator in the field when there is woman match going on.

That is definitely not true, at least in England and Australia. Look at the viewership figures for the last season of WBBL and W100, and you will notice this. And even in South Asian nations such as India and Sri Lanka, the attitude is changing. I will give you some stats. The cumulative audience for WBBL 2021 was 5.36 million, which is comparable for BBL2021. In Australia, the WBBL is now the fourth most-watched local league (only the BBL, AFL and NRL are ahead of the WBBL as of now). According to Cricket Australia, women’s international cricket viewership also increased by 400% during the last four years.

In England and Australia, people are a lot more concerned and interested in women's cricket which is absolutely not the case in Southeast Asian countries. Women's cricket is not as popular as men's cricket here. A lot of times the achievement of women in cricket is generally overshadowed by the achievement of men in cricket. A big reason for that to happen is that the cricket boards in these countries generally don't worry too much about women's cricket as they do about men.

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Quote from: Theones on June 04, 2022, 03:41:16 PM

It's common everywhere - no one give much importance to women cricket teams - there is small news at the end of the bulletin which tells what are achievements of women players. There are hardly any spectator in the field when there is woman match going on.

That is definitely not true, at least in England and Australia. Look at the viewership figures for the last season of WBBL and W100, and you will notice this. And even in South Asian nations such as India and Sri Lanka, the attitude is changing. I will give you some stats. The cumulative audience for WBBL 2021 was 5.36 million, which is comparable for BBL2021. In Australia, the WBBL is now the fourth most-watched local league (only the BBL, AFL and NRL are ahead of the WBBL as of now). According to Cricket Australia, women’s international cricket viewership also increased by 400% during the last four years.

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It's good that women cricket in India is progressing but it's still a long way to go. Actually women cricket less Aus, England and England is suffering badly. As boards are not wiling to spend even a penny on women cricket. India Women team performance as seen in last World Cup need more improvement.

In countries such as England and Australia, the boards have invested a lot of time and effort in promoting women's game and as a result they have a well developed system. In case of India, women's cricket was formerly under a separate organization and it was taken over by the BCCI some time back. But despite the takeover, the BCCI never gave it's due to the women's game. The justification is that women's cricket doesn't generate enough revenue. That is the difference between BCCI and the other boards.

Women's cricket is not as popular as England and Australia in India. I think that is a big reason why the BCCI is a little scared. They don't want to invest very big in something that might not give them the desired return. Otherwise, cricket, in general, is very popular in India and we should have seen a very good approach from BCCI about women's cricket.

But they don't seem to be very interested in women's cricket as they are in men's cricket. In recent times we are hearing about some steps being taken regarding women's IPL and I think this will be a big step for Indian women's cricket.

It's common everywhere - no one give much importance to women cricket teams - there is small news at the end of the bulletin which tells what are achievements of women players. There are hardly any spectator in the field when there is woman match going on.

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It's good that women cricket in India is progressing but it's still a long way to go. Actually women cricket less Aus, England and England is suffering badly. As boards are not wiling to spend even a penny on women cricket. India Women team performance as seen in last World Cup need more improvement.

In countries such as England and Australia, the boards have invested a lot of time and effort in promoting women's game and as a result they have a well developed system. In case of India, women's cricket was formerly under a separate organization and it was taken over by the BCCI some time back. But despite the takeover, the BCCI never gave it's due to the women's game. The justification is that women's cricket doesn't generate enough revenue. That is the difference between BCCI and the other boards.

Women's cricket is not as popular as England and Australia in India. I think that is a big reason why the BCCI is a little scared. They don't want to invest very big in something that might not give them the desired return. Otherwise, cricket, in general, is very popular in India and we should have seen a very good approach from BCCI about women's cricket.

But they don't seem to be very interested in women's cricket as they are in men's cricket. In recent times we are hearing about some steps being taken regarding women's IPL and I think this will be a big step for Indian women's cricket.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on June 03, 2022, 11:15:02 PM

It's good that women cricket in India is progressing but it's still a long way to go. Actually women cricket less Aus, England and England is suffering badly. As boards are not wiling to spend even a penny on women cricket. India Women team performance as seen in last World Cup need more improvement.

In countries such as England and Australia, the boards have invested a lot of time and effort in promoting women's game and as a result they have a well developed system. In case of India, women's cricket was formerly under a separate organization and it was taken over by the BCCI some time back. But despite the takeover, the BCCI never gave it's due to the women's game. The justification is that women's cricket doesn't generate enough revenue. That is the difference between BCCI and the other boards.

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Times have changed, at least here in India. Women cricketers such as Harmanpreet Kaur, Mithali Raj, Smriti Mandhana and Jhulan Goswami are now very popular across India. They may not be as popular as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma, but I would say that a lot more people in India have heard about them when compared to Lovlina Borgohain or Ravi Kumar Dahiya. It is both good and bad for sports in India. On one side it shows how popular women athletes have become, and on the other side it demonstrates how the other sports are suffering in India as a result of dominance from cricket.

It's good that women cricket in India is progressing but it's still a long way to go. Actually women cricket less Aus, England and England is suffering badly. As boards are not wiling to spend even a penny on women cricket. India Women team performance as seen in last World Cup need more improvement.

I think it's actually better if at least one sport is dominating instead of having a lot of sports doing not so good altogether.

I know that some of the women's cricketers of India are quite popular in India. But they don't have the global fame that the men's cricketers in India have. I think it's still a quantos about whether the women's IPL is going to be a success or not but I think it's worth taking a risk.

Another thing is obviously the huge popularity of India is mostly cricket fans. But I don't think cricket is the main reason why other sports might fail. It all comes down to if people like a certain sport or not.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 03, 2022, 10:27:17 PM

Times have changed, at least here in India. Women cricketers such as Harmanpreet Kaur, Mithali Raj, Smriti Mandhana and Jhulan Goswami are now very popular across India. They may not be as popular as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma, but I would say that a lot more people in India have heard about them when compared to Lovlina Borgohain or Ravi Kumar Dahiya. It is both good and bad for sports in India. On one side it shows how popular women athletes have become, and on the other side it demonstrates how the other sports are suffering in India as a result of dominance from cricket.

It's good that women cricket in India is progressing but it's still a long way to go. Actually women cricket less Aus, England and England is suffering badly. As boards are not wiling to spend even a penny on women cricket. India Women team performance as seen in last World Cup need more improvement.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on June 03, 2022, 12:27:47 PM

Well, if we are talking about general popularity then yes I think women's cricket has a good popularity overall but the men's cricket has more popularity compared to the women's cricket and a lot of people are saying that men's cricket is about to die unless ICC does something about it.

That's why I think women's cricket is not that popular. And if we look at the countries that played women's cricket regularly I honestly don't think it is enough. Now India obviously has enough players to arrange a women's IPL tournament but having enough players is not equivalent to having good popularity.

Times have changed, at least here in India. Women cricketers such as Harmanpreet Kaur, Mithali Raj, Smriti Mandhana and Jhulan Goswami are now very popular across India. They may not be as popular as Virat Kohli or Rohit Sharma, but I would say that a lot more people in India have heard about them when compared to Lovlina Borgohain or Ravi Kumar Dahiya. It is both good and bad for sports in India. On one side it shows how popular women athletes have become, and on the other side it demonstrates how the other sports are suffering in India as a result of dominance from cricket.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 02, 2022, 09:46:05 PM

Actually I would disagree when you claim that women's cricket is not very popular. As we have seen with W100 and WBBL, the viewership figures for the women's tournaments were comparable with that of the men's league. Even in South Asian countries such as India, popularity of women's cricket is on the rise. In fact, one of the reasons why the BCCI was not interested in the WIPL was due to concerns that a women's league may poach some of the viewers from the main league (the excuse they gave was that there are not enough players available in India, which is a big lie).

Well, if we are talking about general popularity then yes I think women's cricket has a good popularity overall but the men's cricket has more popularity compared to the women's cricket and a lot of people are saying that men's cricket is about to die unless ICC does something about it.

That's why I think women's cricket is not that popular. And if we look at the countries that played women's cricket regularly I honestly don't think it is enough. Now India obviously has enough players to arrange a women's IPL tournament but having enough players is not equivalent to having good popularity.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 02, 2022, 09:46:05 PM

Actually I would disagree when you claim that women's cricket is not very popular. As we have seen with W100 and WBBL, the viewership figures for the women's tournaments were comparable with that of the men's league. Even in South Asian countries such as India, popularity of women's cricket is on the rise. In fact, one of the reasons why the BCCI was not interested in the WIPL was due to concerns that a women's league may poach some of the viewers from the main league (the excuse they gave was that there are not enough players available in India, which is a big lie).

But i agree that women cricket is really very unpopular. Most of the people are not aware of their country cricket team.
In the male dominating world, where male hesitate to report the female boss. There is so much discrimination and people do not accept the female crickets. Mostly they keep on making fun of them.

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I agree with the December to February window. From March onwards the chances for rain interruptions will increase. One reason why the BCCI won't consider this window for the IPL is because most of the domestic tournaments are being played at that time. But for the WIPL, that should not be a concern. Women's domestic season is not lengthy as that of their male counterparts. All that said, I am sure that the WIPL will be a grand success. Women's cricketers are very popular in India and in all probability the popularity of IPL can get impacted by the WIPL.

This is surely going to be a big step towards the success of women's cricket. I hope a lot of other countries will also be interested and push their women's teams to play better. I really want to see a lot of countries come forward to participate in the women's IPL. Women's cricket is not very popular in the whole world right now but with the women's IPL it might be possible. Probably through this a lot of countries that are not serious at all about women's cricket are going to come forward and think of women's cricket to be actually a competitive sport.

Actually I would disagree when you claim that women's cricket is not very popular. As we have seen with W100 and WBBL, the viewership figures for the women's tournaments were comparable with that of the men's league. Even in South Asian countries such as India, popularity of women's cricket is on the rise. In fact, one of the reasons why the BCCI was not interested in the WIPL was due to concerns that a women's league may poach some of the viewers from the main league (the excuse they gave was that there are not enough players available in India, which is a big lie).

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 01, 2022, 10:09:12 PM

I agree with the December to February window. From March onwards the chances for rain interruptions will increase. One reason why the BCCI won't consider this window for the IPL is because most of the domestic tournaments are being played at that time. But for the WIPL, that should not be a concern. Women's domestic season is not lengthy as that of their male counterparts. All that said, I am sure that the WIPL will be a grand success. Women's cricketers are very popular in India and in all probability the popularity of IPL can get impacted by the WIPL.

This is surely going to be a big step towards the success of women's cricket. I hope a lot of other countries will also be interested and push their women's teams to play better. I really want to see a lot of countries come forward to participate in the women's IPL. Women's cricket is not very popular in the whole world right now but with the women's IPL it might be possible. Probably through this a lot of countries that are not serious at all about women's cricket are going to come forward and think of women's cricket to be actually a competitive sport.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on June 01, 2022, 09:49:28 AM

I think December or January is not going to be ideal because there will be a dew factor and that is going to play a big role that can also be a deciding factor for many matches. It should be held at a time when it is neither too cold nor too hot. And in cold weather, a lot of people in India will surely favor watching the match on TV or any other platform by sitting at home under a warm blanket compared to watching the match in a stadium. I believe women's IPL will be a great step taken in favor of women's cricket and it will surely popularise women's cricket a lot more in the whole world.

I agree with the December to February window. From March onwards the chances for rain interruptions will increase. One reason why the BCCI won't consider this window for the IPL is because most of the domestic tournaments are being played at that time. But for the WIPL, that should not be a concern. Women's domestic season is not lengthy as that of their male counterparts. All that said, I am sure that the WIPL will be a grand success. Women's cricketers are very popular in India and in all probability the popularity of IPL can get impacted by the WIPL.

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BCCI seems to have a change of heart nowadays, first handing over incentives to ground staff and now news coming out that they are actively working towards Women IPL. They are in talks with other cricket boards and ICC for separate window for WIPL.
Key points:
- 6 teams
- Existing IPL franchise already showing some interest (KKR, RR and CSK)
- Suitable window -March- just before the Men's IPL.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/cricket/2022/jun/01/march-2023-likely-to-see-inaugural-womens-indian-premier-league-2460500.html

@JSRAW if the WIPL gets going then it’ll be a huge step for the Women cricket all over the world, because WIPL will generate lots of buzz for them, and hopefully in the long run they’ll get similar respect and recognition like their male counterparts. However don’t you’ll think that it’ll be too hot in March?, and won’t it have an effect on spectators views about watching the match in the stadium, hence why can’t it take place in December or January when the Indian climate is much cooler?.

I think December or January is not going to be ideal because there will be a dew factor and that is going to play a big role that can also be a deciding factor for many matches. It should be held at a time when it is neither too cold nor too hot. And in cold weather, a lot of people in India will surely favor watching the match on TV or any other platform by sitting at home under a warm blanket compared to watching the match in a stadium. I believe women's IPL will be a great step taken in favor of women's cricket and it will surely popularise women's cricket a lot more in the whole world.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 01, 2022, 09:31:24 AM

Other leagues such as WBBL and W100 run at the same time as the men's leagues. But I understand that due to revenue concerns, the BCCI won't be open to that idea. But still, I am glad that after such a long delay they are finally starting the WIPL. It is good news not just for the women's cricketers in India, but also for the overseas players. Given the aversion IPL franchises have for associate players, I don't expect anyone from Thailand or Nepal to be auctioned in, but 6 franchises mean that there maybe a few dozen overseas players from countries such as Australia, England and West Indies.

This is indeed a good news for women cricket. Finally we have a much awaited WIPL. Players will mostly be from top countries like Australia, Newzealand and England while associate nations won't get much importance. Leagues like IPL are for big players only.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 01, 2022, 04:13:00 AM

BCCI seems to have a change of heart nowadays, first handing over incentives to ground staff and now news coming out that they are actively working towards Women IPL. They are in talks with other cricket boards and ICC for separate window for WIPL.

Key points:
- 6 teams
- Existing IPL franchise already showing some interest (KKR, RR and CSK)
- Suitable window -March- just before the Men's IPL.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/sport/cricket/2022/jun/01/march-2023-likely-to-see-inaugural-womens-indian-premier-league-2460500.html

Other leagues such as WBBL and W100 run at the same time as the men's leagues. But I understand that due to revenue concerns, the BCCI won't be open to that idea. But still, I am glad that after such a long delay they are finally starting the WIPL. It is good news not just for the women's cricketers in India, but also for the overseas players. Given the aversion IPL franchises have for associate players, I don't expect anyone from Thailand or Nepal to be auctioned in, but 6 franchises mean that there maybe a few dozen overseas players from countries such as Australia, England and West Indies.

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