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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 15, 2020, 09:59:59 AM

Quote from: mersal on January 15, 2020, 03:36:05 AM

I disagree with that,still he is the best finisher in IPL matches and in 2019 world cup we all knows that single runout costed the team to lose and dhoni will reach the crease 99.9% of similar occasions but he fell a frame short.

I still remember an interview from dhoni,on that reporter asked when you are going to retire and he replied "Do you think, Am I not fit to play next world cup?:

The IPL is about to start in another two months from now. Let's see how Dhoni performs during the tournament. I am not expecting any miracles from him. But if Dhoni is able to perform them, then obviously the selectors will be under a lot of pressure to include him in the squad for world cup. But my opinion is that he should concentrate on the ODI format. It may be better to leave the shorter format to the youngsters.

I do not think performing in the IPL will matter anymore. He has to make way for new talents and there are a lot in india. Indian team selectors have enough options available to replace dhoni. After IPL I think he will call it.

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Quote from: mersal on January 15, 2020, 03:36:05 AM

I disagree with that,still he is the best finisher in IPL matches and in 2019 world cup we all knows that single runout costed the team to lose and dhoni will reach the crease 99.9% of similar occasions but he fell a frame short.

I still remember an interview from dhoni,on that reporter asked when you are going to retire and he replied "Do you think, Am I not fit to play next world cup?:

The IPL is about to start in another two months from now. Let's see how Dhoni performs during the tournament. I am not expecting any miracles from him. But if Dhoni is able to perform them, then obviously the selectors will be under a lot of pressure to include him in the squad for world cup. But my opinion is that he should concentrate on the ODI format. It may be better to leave the shorter format to the youngsters.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:36:21 PM

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I don't think Indian T20 squad for the world cup will play without Dhoni.We all knows that how good he is while playing shorter form and can be considered as the best finisher of all t20 formats.And also his ability to communicate with players behind the stumps will be a good advantage.And his wicket keeping is the best class and invented many wickets from half chances.

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was considered as one of the best finishers in limited overs cricket. But that was many years ago. His performance during the 2019 ODI Cricket World Cup was below par. His strike rate has gone down, and he has become more of a liability in the final overs. We have better wicket keeping batsmen (KL Rahul/Rishabh Pant/Sanju Samson) and therefore I can't see a possibility of MSD replacing any of these three players in the squad for the 2020 T20 World Cup.

I disagree with that,still he is the best finisher in IPL matches and in 2019 world cup we all knows that single runout costed the team to lose and dhoni will reach the crease 99.9% of similar occasions but he fell a frame short.

I still remember an interview from dhoni,on that reporter asked when you are going to retire and he replied "Do you think, Am I not fit to play next world cup?:

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 14, 2020, 08:36:21 PM

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I don't think Indian T20 squad for the world cup will play without Dhoni.We all knows that how good he is while playing shorter form and can be considered as the best finisher of all t20 formats.And also his ability to communicate with players behind the stumps will be a good advantage.And his wicket keeping is the best class and invented many wickets from half chances.

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was considered as one of the best finishers in limited overs cricket. But that was many years ago. His performance during the 2019 ODI Cricket World Cup was below par. His strike rate has gone down, and he has become more of a liability in the final overs. We have better wicket keeping batsmen (KL Rahul/Rishabh Pant/Sanju Samson) and therefore I can't see a possibility of MSD replacing any of these three players in the squad for the 2020 T20 World Cup.

I think Dhoni himself will officially retire before or will say better to give chance to youngsters as it is natural that after reaching certain age performance will go down . So nothing to worry as his guidance will always be their and at certain time we will have to build the replacement too .

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Quote from: mersal on January 14, 2020, 02:40:20 PM

I don't think Indian T20 squad for the world cup will play without Dhoni.We all knows that how good he is while playing shorter form and can be considered as the best finisher of all t20 formats.And also his ability to communicate with players behind the stumps will be a good advantage.And his wicket keeping is the best class and invented many wickets from half chances.

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was considered as one of the best finishers in limited overs cricket. But that was many years ago. His performance during the 2019 ODI Cricket World Cup was below par. His strike rate has gone down, and he has become more of a liability in the final overs. We have better wicket keeping batsmen (KL Rahul/Rishabh Pant/Sanju Samson) and therefore I can't see a possibility of MSD replacing any of these three players in the squad for the 2020 T20 World Cup.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 13, 2020, 05:56:02 AM

Its true that India has strong team and good bench strength but its would be unrealistic to say if India is going to win easily (CT and WC). and India having good team doesn't mean other teams are bad, it just short analysis of Indian Team it can be done for other teams also Eng,Aus,NZ, Pak.

The strength of a team depends upon how well they can perform as a team and it was evident from today's match between India and Australia as both teams had good teams and everyone expecting a competitive match but Australia dominated with the ball and the bat and it was an one sided affair. If you are not performing well in one department it might affect the entire game as we saw today.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 14, 2020, 08:20:22 AM

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Fair enough, personally i don't mind if Dhoni play in WC. there might be good chance of that management trying Pant and Sanju ( especially Pant) for second WK-batsman (15 men squad) and Dhoni's spot is already fixed. Still it doesn't justify why Dhoni is not speaking clearly on this matter and he refuse to play in Domestic cricket - Syed Mustaq Ali Trophy, T-20 -

IPL 2020 will start in about three months from now, and the selectors will be closely monitoring the performance of Dhoni when he turns up for the Chennai Super Kings. If he performs well, then there is a good chance that the selectors will name him in the squad, irrespective of any criticism from the others. If the reverse case occurs, then Dhoni may find himself out of the squad.

I don't think Indian T20 squad for the world cup will play without Dhoni.We all knows that how good he is while playing shorter form and can be considered as the best finisher of all t20 formats.And also his ability to communicate with players behind the stumps will be a good advantage.And his wicket keeping is the best class and invented many wickets from half chances.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 14, 2020, 03:44:49 AM

Fair enough, personally i don't mind if Dhoni play in WC. there might be good chance of that management trying Pant and Sanju ( especially Pant) for second WK-batsman (15 men squad) and Dhoni's spot is already fixed. Still it doesn't justify why Dhoni is not speaking clearly on this matter and he refuse to play in Domestic cricket - Syed Mustaq Ali Trophy, T-20 -

IPL 2020 will start in about three months from now, and the selectors will be closely monitoring the performance of Dhoni when he turns up for the Chennai Super Kings. If he performs well, then there is a good chance that the selectors will name him in the squad, irrespective of any criticism from the others. If the reverse case occurs, then Dhoni may find himself out of the squad.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 13, 2020, 02:18:21 PM

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At this moment i am not sure about Dhoni as he didn't play single game after WC (@Haunebu mentioned his name as well) for Dhoni selection Pant and Sanju needs to fail miserably but important thing to watch is Dhoni's IPL performance. big factor for his selection.

The management doesn't always take current form into consideration. If that were the case, Pant would have been kicked long back. MSD commands a certain level of respect thanks to his achievements which is why they probably won't blink an eye when it comes to selecting him.

The only way I see them selecting Pant or Sanju over him is if he voluntarily chooses to sit back which I don't think will happen since this could be his farewell tournament unless he decides play until the next World Cup(Slim chance).

Fair enough, personally i don't mind if Dhoni play in WC. there might be good chance of that management trying Pant and Sanju ( especially Pant) for second WK-batsman (15 men squad) and Dhoni's spot is already fixed. Still it doesn't justify why Dhoni is not speaking clearly on this matter and he refuse to play in Domestic cricket - Syed Mustaq Ali Trophy, T-20 -

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 13, 2020, 05:56:02 AM

At this moment i am not sure about Dhoni as he didn't play single game after WC (@Haunebu mentioned his name as well) for Dhoni selection Pant and Sanju needs to fail miserably but important thing to watch is Dhoni's IPL performance. big factor for his selection.

The management doesn't always take current form into consideration. If that were the case, Pant would have been kicked long back. MSD commands a certain level of respect thanks to his achievements which is why they probably won't blink an eye when it comes to selecting him.

The only way I see them selecting Pant or Sanju over him is if he voluntarily chooses to sit back which I don't think will happen since this could be his farewell tournament unless he decides play until the next World Cup(Slim chance).

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The 2020 ICC Men's T20 World Cup is still more than 10 months away, and it will be a bit premature to talk about the team selection for that tournament. I am sure that by that time, a number of new players will come in and some of the familiar faces will fade in to oblivion. Apart from Kohli/Sharma/Bumrah, none of the other spots are 100% decided. And who knows? If the selectors want to give him a grand farewell, then even Mahendra Singh Dhoni may get included in the squad.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on January 12, 2020, 01:06:27 PM

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So this means that India should easily win the series with Australia, because as everyone is saying that India has more good players that they do not even fit in playing Eleven. Well, I still think that Australia will perform well and I have a reason for that, We shall see once the matches are live.

Its true that India has strong team and good bench strength but its would be unrealistic to say if India is going to win easily (CT and WC). and India having good team doesn't mean other teams are bad, it just short analysis of Indian Team it can be done for other teams also Eng,Aus,NZ, Pak.

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Quick look at the Indian Team without going into any details.
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This team is for the World Cup? If so, Dhawan is more suited for ODI so would love Rahul instead. Iyer is losing his form but still 9 months to go which would mean so many team members being replaced, dropped, injured (God forbid!). Also, the tournament is going to be in Australia so that's again in Aussie's advantage.

Yeah, For T-20 world cup. usually T-20 format doesn't help much if its home condition or not, Short Format = Unpredictable result.

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In my opinion KL Rahul is really playing well and unless and until India looks to go for a left hand right hand combination i do not think Dhawan will get that spot unless he performs extraordinarily well, what about MS Dhoni will he be playing in the World cup and i hope he plays and if that is the case he will book that spot and Pant sits out and Sanju Samson is unlikely to get an option considering the way in which they treated in the last few series and giving him one opportunity to play, Bumrah is fixed and i think Mohammed Shami will share the new ball and the rest of the players depends upon how they perform during the following months before the World Cup.

Quote from: Haunebu on January 12, 2020, 01:28:40 PM

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Left hand -Right hand combination is always important. I see both of them in 15 men squad, its debatable who gets in the playing XI as we still have fair amount of months to keep tab on the performance.

At this moment i am not sure about Dhoni as he didn't play single game after WC (@Haunebu mentioned his name as well) for Dhoni selection Pant and Sanju needs to fail miserably but important thing to watch is Dhoni's IPL performance. big factor for his selection.

15 men squad is important, we have to look in this for more details.

Quote from: Sithara007 on January 12, 2020, 08:41:17 PM

Others are definitely going to disagree, but in my opinion two teams from India should be allowed to take part in the T20 world cup. In addition to the India team, there should be another India B team. Teams such as UAE and Oman, who are fielding Indian citizens are allowed to take part in the tournament. Then why can't they allow another team from India? At least this team will perform much better than weaker sides such as Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan.etc. And TV revenues will definitely get a big boost, as 60% of the share is coming from India.

Its interesting subject, opens lots of possibilities. i never gave much thought about it. one drawback - sounds like a global version of IPL-

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Quote from: mersal on January 12, 2020, 01:48:29 PM

Pandya is not recovered from injury so it gives an opportunity for a new man to play if he doesn't comeback and I won't say Pandey will be perfect because he is always been an inconsistent player but prefer Iyer who is consistent and more responsible which is always needed in a tough situation of game that is the time where middle order batsmen come in to the crease.

I chose Iyer for the 4th position while I chose Pandey for the 5th position. Pandey is inconsistent, but he has performed more often than not these days. On the other hand, Pandya will most likely recover by then(Especially after his recent engagement).

All rounders like Pandya and Jadeja are crucial in the Indian team and their experience will help them in a big way in the upcoming World Cup which is why I would select them over the other players.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 12, 2020, 12:10:28 PM

I think this is the first time India is having too many good players who are fighting to get in the team, the competition is really good and hence they will improve their own performance, the fast bowlers India has are world class and can trouble any world class batsman and with Bumrah fit i hope he will improve on his fitness and will be available for the World Cup and so is the case with Hardik Pandey who is injured for a very long time and he need some match practice before going for the World Cup if not it is better not to pick him.

Others are definitely going to disagree, but in my opinion two teams from India should be allowed to take part in the T20 world cup. In addition to the India team, there should be another India B team. Teams such as UAE and Oman, who are fielding Indian citizens are allowed to take part in the tournament. Then why can't they allow another team from India? At least this team will perform much better than weaker sides such as Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan.etc. And TV revenues will definitely get a big boost, as 60% of the share is coming from India.

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Quote from: Haunebu on January 12, 2020, 01:28:40 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on January 12, 2020, 09:49:48 AM

-Dhawan /KL fighting for opening slot ( Rohit is fixed)
- Kohli (Fixed) and Iyer making a strong case for fix spot.
- Manish Pandey wants to cement his position for Number 5, let's see.
-Rishabh Pant is favorite but Sanju is ready to compete for Wicket keeper-Batsman
-Batting all- rounders. We have to wait and watch who comes at the top. Shivam Dube, Vijay Shankar Hardik (Vijay and Hardik are out due to injury)
-Bowling all-rounders -Washington Sunder or R.Jadeja-
-Cutthroat competition in Seam bowling. (Bumrah is fixed)
-Spinners are fighting as well Chahal-Kuldeep

Awesome list though I would make a couple of changes. Pant and Sanju will automatically go to 2nd and 3rd position respectively if MSD is back in the squad. Pandey might be the best choice for the 5th position due to his recent performances.

Tough to select between Rahul and Dhawan at the moment. Kohli and Iyer are perfect. Hardik Pandya will probably take the next spot. Jadeja might be considered over Sunder. Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi are perfect. Chahal will probably be selected over Kuldeep with Jadeja supporting him.

Pandya is not recovered from injury so it gives an opportunity for a new man to play if he doesn't comeback and I won't say Pandey will be perfect because he is always been an inconsistent player but prefer Iyer who is consistent and more responsible which is always needed in a tough situation of game that is the time where middle order batsmen come in to the crease.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 12, 2020, 09:49:48 AM

-Dhawan /KL fighting for opening slot ( Rohit is fixed)
- Kohli (Fixed) and Iyer making a strong case for fix spot.
- Manish Pandey wants to cement his position for Number 5, let's see.
-Rishabh Pant is favorite but Sanju is ready to compete for Wicket keeper-Batsman
-Batting all- rounders. We have to wait and watch who comes at the top. Shivam Dube, Vijay Shankar Hardik (Vijay and Hardik are out due to injury)
-Bowling all-rounders -Washington Sunder or R.Jadeja-
-Cutthroat competition in Seam bowling. (Bumrah is fixed)
-Spinners are fighting as well Chahal-Kuldeep

Awesome list though I would make a couple of changes. Pant and Sanju will automatically go to 2nd and 3rd position respectively if MSD is back in the squad. Pandey might be the best choice for the 5th position due to his recent performances.

Tough to select between Rahul and Dhawan at the moment. Kohli and Iyer are perfect. Hardik Pandya will probably take the next spot. Jadeja might be considered over Sunder. Bumrah, Shami and Bhuvi are perfect. Chahal will probably be selected over Kuldeep with Jadeja supporting him.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 12, 2020, 12:10:28 PM

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India has also got bowling talents but the nature of pitch changes a lot when they were going to play on overseas conditions like South Africa,Australia and England where pitch assist more seam and fast bowlers so bowlers had hard time to assists there but now India got bowlers like Bumrah and Shami who adopted to all the conditions and also got furious speed with ball equal to Australian seamers.

I think this is the first time India is having too many good players who are fighting to get in the team, the competition is really good and hence they will improve their own performance, the fast bowlers India has are world class and can trouble any world class batsman and with Bumrah fit i hope he will improve on his fitness and will be available for the World Cup and so is the case with Hardik Pandey who is injured for a very long time and he need some match practice before going for the World Cup if not it is better not to pick him.

Hardik was a better T20 player and if he fully fit to play then form will not be a problem but until now is not recovered so still its a question that he will play or not.

Meanwhile Shami and Rohit were back into the squad and they will be playing their NZ series.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on January 12, 2020, 01:06:27 PM

So this means that India should easily win the series with Australia, because as everyone is saying that India has more good players that they do not even fit in playing Eleven. Well, I still think that Australia will perform well and I have a reason for that, We shall see once the matches are live.

Having the best team doesn't ensure 100% winning rate on every matches they were playing,it all depends on that particular day and how players are going to perform in all the three departments.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 12, 2020, 12:10:28 PM

I think this is the first time India is having too many good players who are fighting to get in the team, the competition is really good and hence they will improve their own performance, the fast bowlers India has are world class and can trouble any world class batsman and with Bumrah fit i hope he will improve on his fitness and will be available for the World Cup and so is the case with Hardik Pandey who is injured for a very long time and he need some match practice before going for the World Cup if not it is better not to pick him.

Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 12, 2020, 11:10:35 AM

This time around India does have a lot of good batsmen, bowlers and all rounders. It will be really hard for the selectors to choose from so many good players. The team as a unit can be choosen but the players decide the fate of the game.

So this means that India should easily win the series with Australia, because as everyone is saying that India has more good players that they do not even fit in playing Eleven. Well, I still think that Australia will perform well and I have a reason for that, We shall see once the matches are live.

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Quote from: mersal on January 12, 2020, 11:49:22 AM

India has also got bowling talents but the nature of pitch changes a lot when they were going to play on overseas conditions like South Africa,Australia and England where pitch assist more seam and fast bowlers so bowlers had hard time to assists there but now India got bowlers like Bumrah and Shami who adopted to all the conditions and also got furious speed with ball equal to Australian seamers.

I think this is the first time India is having too many good players who are fighting to get in the team, the competition is really good and hence they will improve their own performance, the fast bowlers India has are world class and can trouble any world class batsman and with Bumrah fit i hope he will improve on his fitness and will be available for the World Cup and so is the case with Hardik Pandey who is injured for a very long time and he need some match practice before going for the World Cup if not it is better not to pick him.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 12, 2020, 08:54:33 AM

I am not sure about international squad but, I am pretty sure about IPL. Domestic cricket has helped a lot of new talents to get selected in a IPL team. India is abundant with batting talent the problem was always with bowling talent. Only few have made it to the headlines. When we talk about team combination bowling plays an important role. With the recently concluded T20 match, I can see that the selectors have quite an abundant source of bowling talent available for them to choose.

India has also got bowling talents but the nature of pitch changes a lot when they were going to play on overseas conditions like South Africa,Australia and England where pitch assist more seam and fast bowlers so bowlers had hard time to assists there but now India got bowlers like Bumrah and Shami who adopted to all the conditions and also got furious speed with ball equal to Australian seamers.

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