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Quote from: Avirunes on March 24, 2020, 01:02:26 PM

I have my hopes high coz of how well we have handled the situation. Considering the population we have I expected quite some large figures but we are doing great so far. So if this lockdown becomes successful then maybe we have chance of seeing some IPL this year.

But now I think there will be a lot of time even after lockdown being spent on discussions and stuff so it's likely that we could have a cancelled season.

By considering India's population against their available medical facility and general public's awareness on corona, I am afraid their lock down precaution measurements may not serve its actual purposes. Even there are betterment in coming days compared to last few days still I doubt that government will allow people to gather before end of April or at beginning of may month (after the 2nd week of May, there will be less changes for IPL to happen this year).

The only possibility will be, if their current lock down precaution works as expected then we may expect IPL matches to happen behind locked doors. Yes, government and BCCI may plan for IPL matches without allowing viewers into stadium.

Just today, 2020 Japan Olympics got postponed by a year. There will be no surprises if same happens to 2020 edition of IPL as well.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on March 24, 2020, 12:47:06 PM

This is really worst situation as developed countries fail to control this so developing countries like India and Pakistan have no enough resources to control this so this is case Most chances we will not able to have any good activity in next few months because watching on media numbers are increasing very quickly and lock down is going to increase for many weeks.

Well I have my hopes high coz of how well we have handled the situation. Considering the population we have I expected quite some large figures but we are doing great so far. So if this lockdown becomes successful then maybe we have chance of seeing some IPL this year.

But now I think there will be a lot of time even after lockdown being spent on discussions and stuff so it's likely that we could have a cancelled season.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 24, 2020, 12:47:22 PM

From what I have heard, the rules being laid for the lockdown are extremely strict. No one can venture outside their own homes, without explicit permission from the authorities. And I don't think that they'll lift the lockdown completely after just 21 days. The restrictions may be eased in a phased manner. And for the IPL, the BCCI needs to get all the arrangements done, at least a week before the tournament. For example, they can't get the pitch ready in a day or two. It takes at least a week.

Yeah then in that case seems very hard to have IPL this season. Can't we have 2 matches a day and make the season a quick one?

Its possibility but weather could be also big problem in coming days as its could be very hot and humidity which will create problems for players as this is off season for here in sub-continent most of peoples don't like to play games.

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Quote from: BitSat19 on March 24, 2020, 12:47:06 PM

This is really worst situation as developed countries fail to control this so developing countries like India and Pakistan have no enough resources to control this so this is case Most chances we will not able to have any good activity in next few months because watching on media numbers are increasing very quickly and lock down is going to increase for many weeks.

Well I have my hopes high coz of how well we have handled the situation. Considering the population we have I expected quite some large figures but we are doing great so far. So if this lockdown becomes successful then maybe we have chance of seeing some IPL this year.

But now I think there will be a lot of time even after lockdown being spent on discussions and stuff so it's likely that we could have a cancelled season.

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 24, 2020, 12:47:22 PM

From what I have heard, the rules being laid for the lockdown are extremely strict. No one can venture outside their own homes, without explicit permission from the authorities. And I don't think that they'll lift the lockdown completely after just 21 days. The restrictions may be eased in a phased manner. And for the IPL, the BCCI needs to get all the arrangements done, at least a week before the tournament. For example, they can't get the pitch ready in a day or two. It takes at least a week.

Yeah then in that case seems very hard to have IPL this season. Can't we have 2 matches a day and make the season a quick one?

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Quote from: Avirunes on March 24, 2020, 12:24:53 PM

Quote from: onrise on March 24, 2020, 11:56:59 AM

With the government decision of locking down for next 21 days starting from tomorrow it seems that most likely that IPL may get cancelled as even after 21 days it will depends how the situation is and still would require some gap in order to juts take some precaution. So now this year we have to stay without IPL and quite heavy losses to many people and business associated with it.

Well if we count 21 days from now we will have lockdown till 14th April and BCCI has suspended IPL till 15th April. So I think we can still have IPL this season unless there is furthermore extension to that lockdown period. All depend on how situation goes on later on here.

I still hope for IPL this season if situation resolves by 3rd-4th week of April.

From what I have heard, the rules being laid for the lockdown are extremely strict. No one can venture outside their own homes, without explicit permission from the authorities. And I don't think that they'll lift the lockdown completely after just 21 days. The restrictions may be eased in a phased manner. And for the IPL, the BCCI needs to get all the arrangements done, at least a week before the tournament. For example, they can't get the pitch ready in a day or two. It takes at least a week.

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Quote from: Avirunes on March 24, 2020, 12:24:53 PM

Quote from: onrise on March 24, 2020, 11:56:59 AM

With the government decision of locking down for next 21 days starting from tomorrow it seems that most likely that IPL may get cancelled as even after 21 days it will depends how the situation is and still would require some gap in order to juts take some precaution. So now this year we have to stay without IPL and quite heavy losses to many people and business associated with it.

Well if we count 21 days from now we will have lockdown till 14th April and BCCI has suspended IPL till 15th April. So I think we can still have IPL this season unless there is furthermore extension to that lockdown period. All depend on how situation goes on later on here.

I still hope for IPL this season if situation resolves by 3rd-4th week of April.

This is really worst situation as developed countries fail to control this so developing countries like India and Pakistan have no enough resources to control this so this is case Most chances we will not able to have any good activity in next few months because watching on media numbers are increasing very quickly and lock down is going to increase for many weeks.

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Quote from: onrise on March 24, 2020, 11:56:59 AM

With the government decision of locking down for next 21 days starting from tomorrow it seems that most likely that IPL may get cancelled as even after 21 days it will depends how the situation is and still would require some gap in order to juts take some precaution. So now this year we have to stay without IPL and quite heavy losses to many people and business associated with it.

Well if we count 21 days from now we will have lockdown till 14th April and BCCI has suspended IPL till 15th April. So I think we can still have IPL this season unless there is furthermore extension to that lockdown period. All depend on how situation goes on later on here.

I still hope for IPL this season if situation resolves by 3rd-4th week of April.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 21, 2020, 07:45:15 AM

Those who are patriotic players, they will reject any amount of money for the country cause. After all it is because of their country they got the fame and I like those people who have such feelings. But I think players should not be tested and schedules should be flexible for the games. Also IPL fans also want to see all the players to be in action and anyone missing the tournament because of national commitment will be missed.

You have to draw a line. In today's world, each and everything has a price. If he is included in the Australian squad (which in all probability will happen), then Cummins will be in dire dilemma. The amount we are talking here ($2.2 million) is almost 10 times the amount he can get from playing for Australia for an entire year. I am just saying that it is going to be a very tough decision.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 23, 2020, 08:58:32 PM

I am not sure if you guys have read this news. Still thought of sharing it with everyone in case if you did not know.

A decision on IPL likely to be taken by the end of this month. Chances are it would not be delayed any further if the virus goes out of hand in India.

Unfortunately there has been a surge in the number case in India. So the chances of it getting cancelled this year is very high.

Source - https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ipl-2020-delay-likely-to-be-extended-amid-rising-covid-19-cases-in-india-1658682-2020-03-23

With the government decision of locking down for next 21 days starting from tomorrow it seems that most likely that IPL may get cancelled as even after 21 days it will depends how the situation is and still would require some gap in order to juts take some precaution. So now this year we have to stay without IPL and quite heavy losses to many people and business associated with it.

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I am not sure if you guys have read this news. Still thought of sharing it with everyone in case if you did not know.

A decision on IPL likely to be taken by the end of this month. Chances are it would not be delayed any further if the virus goes out of hand in India.

Unfortunately there has been a surge in the number case in India. So the chances of it getting cancelled this year is very high.

Source - https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricket/story/ipl-2020-delay-likely-to-be-extended-amid-rising-covid-19-cases-in-india-1658682-2020-03-23

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 21, 2020, 07:45:15 AM

Those who are patriotic players, they will reject any amount of money for the country cause. After all it is because of their country they got the fame and I like those people who have such feelings. But I think players should not be tested and schedules should be flexible for the games. Also IPL fans also want to see all the players to be in action and anyone missing the tournament because of national commitment will be missed.

If you are looking at patriotism cricket is the only sport that takes that route after the Olympics because you cannot find an audience to see someone play for an entire day and with the introduction of T20 cricket now people are getting introduced to cricket and they are finding good deals in franchise cricket and if a player wants to participate because of the revenue he can choose what he wants, after all it all depends upon his individual talents and as long as he is performing he will be selected and the individual should be given the priority to choose what game he plays.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 21, 2020, 05:50:41 AM

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No one will want to cancel their contract with IPL because of the attractive money which they get from it. I think all the players of IPL will want to play the tournament and they will wish the things to be normalize as soon as possible. If the national teams does not make it mandatory, the players will like to miss the national games for the IPL.

That's why I specifically asked about Pat Cummins. Australians are known to prioritize their national duty, above anything else (including money and personal commitments). But then, the amount I am talking about is just huge. $2.2 million is like what the respective player (Pat Cummins) would earn from his entire career playing for Australia. He can get the equivalent amount in just two months, playing for the Kolkata Knight Riders.

I'd just say that it is going to be very difficult decision for him. If I was in his place, then I'd chose KKR.

Those who are patriotic players, they will reject any amount of money for the country cause. After all it is because of their country they got the fame and I like those people who have such feelings. But I think players should not be tested and schedules should be flexible for the games. Also IPL fans also want to see all the players to be in action and anyone missing the tournament because of national commitment will be missed.

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Quote from: JohnBitCo on March 21, 2020, 03:06:44 AM

No one will want to cancel their contract with IPL because of the attractive money which they get from it. I think all the players of IPL will want to play the tournament and they will wish the things to be normalize as soon as possible. If the national teams does not make it mandatory, the players will like to miss the national games for the IPL.

That's why I specifically asked about Pat Cummins. Australians are known to prioritize their national duty, above anything else (including money and personal commitments). But then, the amount I am talking about is just huge. $2.2 million is like what the respective player (Pat Cummins) would earn from his entire career playing for Australia. He can get the equivalent amount in just two months, playing for the Kolkata Knight Riders.

I'd just say that it is going to be very difficult decision for him. If I was in his place, then I'd chose KKR.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 21, 2020, 02:46:14 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on March 21, 2020, 02:28:17 AM

Some players might if IPL gets a green light (very unlikely) but big names such as Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Archer, Ben stokes, Buttler, Rabada, de cock etc are not going to join.

Not many players from Bangladesh and Sri Lanka play in IPL anyway. Only shakib and Malinga has brand value and IPL is all about BRAND. Windies players always play mercenary role here and there so its okay Grin

Out of your list, here is my prediction:

Players who would chose national duty over the IPL: Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Buttler, de cock

Players who would chose IPL franchsies: Jofra Archer, Ben stokes, Kagiso Rabada

Most of them are senior players and it will be very tough for them to chose IPL. But the same can't be said about the younger players, such as Lungi Ngidi, Josh Hazlewood, Marcus Stoinis, Mujeeb Ur Rahman and Chris Lynn.

And the case of Pat Cummins will be interesting. Do you think that he'll cancel the $2.2 million IPL contract?

No one will want to cancel their contract with IPL because of the attractive money which they get from it. I think all the players of IPL will want to play the tournament and they will wish the things to be normalize as soon as possible. If the national teams does not make it mandatory, the players will like to miss the national games for the IPL.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 21, 2020, 02:28:17 AM

Some players might if IPL gets a green light (very unlikely) but big names such as Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Archer, Ben stokes, Buttler, Rabada, de cock etc are not going to join.

Not many players from Bangladesh and Sri Lanka play in IPL anyway. Only shakib and Malinga has brand value and IPL is all about BRAND. Windies players always play mercenary role here and there so its okay Grin

Out of your list, here is my prediction:

Players who would chose national duty over the IPL: Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Buttler, de cock

Players who would chose IPL franchsies: Jofra Archer, Ben stokes, Kagiso Rabada

Most of them are senior players and it will be very tough for them to chose IPL. But the same can't be said about the younger players, such as Lungi Ngidi, Josh Hazlewood, Marcus Stoinis, Mujeeb Ur Rahman and Chris Lynn.

And the case of Pat Cummins will be interesting. Do you think that he'll cancel the $2.2 million IPL contract?

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 21, 2020, 02:03:20 AM

@ JSRAW, I am not very sure about that. In case the IPL is shifted to Q3 or Q4 2020, then we may witness a lot of the international (overseas) players skipping their national duty to participate in IPL 2020. I can say this with 95% surety for teams such as West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even for teams such as Australia, around half of the players may chose the respective IPL franchise over national team.

That said, the probability of IPL 2020 occurring in Q3/Q4 is near zero. It is most likely to get cancelled.

As we know that IPL is always planned between March/ April of every year and ICC knows this and they do not keep any big tornamnets or series so that players are free to play the biggest cricket league. If they delay this IPL to Q3, then even the weather will not be suitable to play crciket in India due to summer season and if you delay in Q4, then the next season 2021 IPL will be too close and we do not want two seasons to be played one after the other.

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Quote from: JSRAW on March 21, 2020, 02:28:17 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 21, 2020, 02:03:20 AM

@ JSRAW, I am not very sure about that. In case the IPL is shifted to Q3 or Q4 2020, then we may witness a lot of the international (overseas) players skipping their national duty to participate in IPL 2020. I can say this with 95% surety for teams such as West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even for teams such as Australia, around half of the players may chose the respective IPL franchise over national team.

That said, the probability of IPL 2020 occurring in Q3/Q4 is near zero. It is most likely to get cancelled.

Some players might if IPL gets a green light (very unlikely) but big names such as Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Archer, Ben stokes, Buttler, Rabada, de cock etc are not going to join.

Not many players from Bangladesh and Sri Lanka play in IPL anyway. Only shakib and Malinga has brand value and IPL is all about BRAND. Windies players always play mercenary role here and there so its okay Grin

It will be more like Ranji trophy if they play it

I don't think it is going to be that fun if it is only Indians . If it is played like that anyway , mark my words CSK will win again . I wanna see ABD , De cock atleast . SRH will suffer a huge blow as they are dominated by foreigners like Kane , Warner etc .
Foreign players are an integral part of IPL and without them , I don't think it is worth to play IPL .

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 21, 2020, 02:03:20 AM

@ JSRAW, I am not very sure about that. In case the IPL is shifted to Q3 or Q4 2020, then we may witness a lot of the international (overseas) players skipping their national duty to participate in IPL 2020. I can say this with 95% surety for teams such as West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even for teams such as Australia, around half of the players may chose the respective IPL franchise over national team.

That said, the probability of IPL 2020 occurring in Q3/Q4 is near zero. It is most likely to get cancelled.

Some players might if IPL gets a green light (very unlikely) but big names such as Smith, Warner, Finch, Starc, Cummins, Eoin Morgan, Archer, Ben stokes, Buttler, Rabada, de cock etc are not going to join.

Not many players from Bangladesh and Sri Lanka play in IPL anyway. Only shakib and Malinga has brand value and IPL is all about BRAND. Windies players always play mercenary role here and there so its okay Grin

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@ JSRAW, I am not very sure about that. In case the IPL is shifted to Q3 or Q4 2020, then we may witness a lot of the international (overseas) players skipping their national duty to participate in IPL 2020. I can say this with 95% surety for teams such as West Indies, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even for teams such as Australia, around half of the players may chose the respective IPL franchise over national team.

That said, the probability of IPL 2020 occurring in Q3/Q4 is near zero. It is most likely to get cancelled.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on March 21, 2020, 01:31:54 AM

If the virus can be contained by that time then the BCCI has the ability to move the matches to countries where there is no monsoon and we have already seen the IPL moved to South Africa in the past so it is possible that the IPL could be moved from India if monsoon is the obstacle Wink

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Monsoon or no Monsoon, Local venue or foreign venue, Covid-19 contained or not.. its not gonna happen after June

Unless fans just want to watch Indian players playing with themselves + those foreign players who don't even make into their own country's team or retired players.

In short schedule is packed....

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hopefully we will have IPL in June if this is possible any comment about this from any Indian?

Not possible...

Or at least tough call as almost every team has packed schedule after May so i don't see how BCCI could do that. Aus, England, SA, Windies all playing international cricket so it doesn't make sense.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on March 21, 2020, 12:55:13 AM

Both are important for me economic stability and the health of fellow humans. I do not know what will happen if BCCI cancels IPL this year but I do know many people will lose jobs and to cover it's losses BCCI will increase fees which will in directly affect common people.

Matches can be organised without spectators and they can be rescheduled for a later date this year.

The virus can be contained but Indians are more intrested in hiding it from the government and spreading it to others. China has successfully contained the virus within three months and India can too if the citizens collaborate with the government.

Matches can be organized without spectators: Yes. But gate collection represents more than 20% of the revenue for the franchises and they may not be happy with this idea. And don't expect the BCCI to reimburse this amount to the franchises.

Matches can be rescheduled for a later date this year: Yes. Possible. But there are practical difficulties. Monsoon season will start in two months from now and post-Monsoon, the cricketing calendar is already very crowded.

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