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Quote from: erikalui on January 10, 2020, 05:44:34 AM

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As per Wikipedia too, the win percentage shows Tendulkar as the second best and Rohit as the third followed by Kumble, Iyer and then Gambhir. He used to have a temper same like Kohli and those days even Kohli looked like a bad captain for RCB but then improved. Currently, only Rohit looks best but in the coming years, I don't see anyone as good as our earlier captains.

Fair enough, if we are considering only Win percentage. I was looking at 100+ match captaincy and trophy as well. btw if we are look at Kohli captaincy (original discussion of captaincy in short format) in the IPL then he doesn't deserve the captaincy in the T-20 format for simple reason, He sucks in IPL.

Hope @Haunebu don't have any problem with this statement. Grin

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 10, 2020, 05:20:20 AM

Gambhir ranks 3rd as captain, as far as IPL history is concern. Dhoni and Rohit are sitting at 1-2 rank respectively. Suresh Raina comparison is not looking good IMO, as he lead the team only 30ish time in the IPL and semi-retired (if that's what you want to call)from the international cricket.

Bowlers could become good captain but in current bowling department only 2 names comes to my mind Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar( everyone else is new or don't have enough experience). Chances of Ashwin coming back in T-20/ ODI squad is thin, so we can rule out him. On the other hand, Bhuvi is mature- Balanced guy and looks captain material but in recent time his place is not fixed as well due to cut-throat competition among the bowlers.

So BCCI should stick with the any Batsman Captain

As per Wikipedia too, the win percentage shows Tendulkar as the second best and Rohit as the third followed by Kumble, Iyer and then Gambhir. He used to have a temper same like Kohli and those days even Kohli looked like a bad captain for RCB but then improved. Currently, only Rohit looks best but in the coming years, I don't see anyone as good as our earlier captains.

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Quote from: mersal on January 10, 2020, 02:51:30 AM

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All of this will depend on India's performance in T20 Worldcup. If team India under the captan cy of Kohli is able to win this tournament or become a runner-up team then I do not think people will question the captain. If not then I am sure BCCI under Sourav Ganguly will know what to do, not to forget the coach too 😀😜

I don't think there will be any changes in the captaincy of Indian team until the next 50 over world cup for sure.T20I world cup will not affect anything even if India doesn't becomes runner up they will move forward since they are better team as everyone knows.Sometimes on particular matches our plans won't workout so accept and move on is good for team.

As per the record except test cricket Kohli's perfomance as a captain in one day and T20 is average. Those two are the most played format in world cricket and both have their respective world cup. From 2013 till to date Indi a has not won any major cricket tournament under kohli's captaincy.

You can google the stats and you will be very suprised to know who are better than him as captain.

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Quote from: erikalui on January 10, 2020, 04:55:32 AM

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IPL has given many chances for batsmen to be the captain of their team and even players like Gambhir failed to impress and Raina too. It's high time we have a bowler as a captain like we had Kapil earlier. I feel bowlers will be make captains.

Gambhir ranks 3rd as captain, as far as IPL history is concern. Dhoni and Rohit are sitting at 1-2 rank respectively. Suresh Raina comparison is not looking good IMO, as he lead the team only 30ish time in the IPL and semi-retired (if that's what you want to call)from the international cricket.

Bowlers could become good captain but in current bowling department only 2 names comes to my mind Ashwin and Bhuvneshwar( everyone else is new or don't have enough experience). Chances of Ashwin coming back in T-20/ ODI squad is thin, so we can rule out him. On the other hand, Bhuvi is mature- Balanced guy and looks captain material but in recent time his place is not fixed as well due to cut-throat competition among the bowlers.

So BCCI should stick with the any Batsman Captain

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 09, 2020, 10:30:30 AM

My choice would be like this:

Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer

Rohit is the best choice for a captain currently but not sure of Iyer. IPL has given many chances for batsmen to be the captain of their team and even players like Gambhir failed to impress and Raina too. It's high time we have a bowler as a captain like we had Kapil earlier. I feel bowlers will be make captains.

Waiting for the last T20 today. Still missing Rohit but was really bored of this in-home matches. Ind Vs Aus has always been more fun to watch (esp. when Ind is winning lol).

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 10, 2020, 01:31:26 AM

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All of this will depend on India's performance in T20 Worldcup. If team India under the captan cy of Kohli is able to win this tournament or become a runner-up team then I do not think people will question the captain. If not then I am sure BCCI under Sourav Ganguly will know what to do, not to forget the coach too 😀😜

I tend to agree with your argument in some extent. after ODI WC results some people came out and raised the similar point and then Ganguly had to give statement on record that Virat's team need to produce result in short format by winning the ICC tournament (in response of CT Final and WC Semi Final lose).

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 10, 2020, 01:31:26 AM

All of this will depend on India's performance in T20 Worldcup. If team India under the captan cy of Kohli is able to win this tournament or become a runner-up team then I do not think people will question the captain. If not then I am sure BCCI under Sourav Ganguly will know what to do, not to forget the coach too 😀😜

I don't think there will be any changes in the captaincy of Indian team until the next 50 over world cup for sure.T20I world cup will not affect anything even if India doesn't becomes runner up they will move forward since they are better team as everyone knows.Sometimes on particular matches our plans won't workout so accept and move on is good for team.

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Quote from: mersal on January 09, 2020, 11:27:28 PM

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I think India is not in need of replacement in captaincy since Kohli is still too young so India will not going to make any tests for the longer format captaincy and all the players were adopting to the style of Kohli captaincy so let it be and crush every opponents irrespective of how good they were playing cricket then only BCCI can make more money. Cheesy

Whether the fans like it or not, Kohli is going to be the captain for anther 6-7 years. So that means that Rohit Sharma would never get a chance to be the full time captain of India (unless he is planning to continue playing until he is 45 years old). So it will be better if the BCCI groom some of the players who are in their mid 20s such as Sreyas Iyer as the replacement to Kohli.

The same was told about Sourav Ganguly one of the best one day captain for India but, he got replaced by Dhoni very swiftly. You cannot underestimate these youngsters. Anyone can replace him in coming years, if the team doesnot win any big ICC tournaments under his captaincy, which by the way has not happened from 2013 he might get replaced.

Captains will be criticized when team is not performing well so possibility of replacing the captains if it goes for too long but as far now India is one of the best cricket team and getting more stronger everyday so the captain will not go into that criticized phase for new few years.

All of this will depend on India's performance in T20 Worldcup. If team India under the captan cy of Kohli is able to win this tournament or become a runner-up team then I do not think people will question the captain. If not then I am sure BCCI under Sourav Ganguly will know what to do, not to forget the coach too 😀😜

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Quote from: romero121 on January 09, 2020, 10:22:13 AM

Taking responsibility and leading the team isn't a simple task. No team gets good cricketer to be captain on the consecutive order. India is lucky to get Dhoni followed by Virat, and now we can't imagine any of the players to be the same as them. Pant is young and playing good, but I don't think he's good enough to take the captaincy of the leading cricket team.

My choice would be like this:

Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer

Rishabh Pant is too inexperienced to be considered for any future captaincy role. Also, from his behavior, it doesn't look like he can handle pressure situations. Virat is aggressive, but he doesn't lose his composure when he gets angry or irritated. The same can't be said about some of the other members in the present playing XI.

Virat or Rohit seems to the best for now and may be in coming years we will have somebody else nahi could lead India in various formats of the play. Tomorrow is the final T20 against SL and seems India should win it and with this will win the series too .

Srilanka will try to win this match at any cost, I also feel the same that they might win this match. There will be some changes in the team line up that is for sure. We need to wait and watch who are getting replaced. Toss will again play a crucial role.

India has dominated the last match and they would continue to play with the same form. I think it will not be easy for the Srilanka to get a win against strong Indian Side. Even if the miracle happen and srilanka wins, India cannot lose the series because the first match was ruin by rain.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 09, 2020, 08:12:10 AM

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Quote from: mersal on January 08, 2020, 12:14:14 PM

I think India is not in need of replacement in captaincy since Kohli is still too young so India will not going to make any tests for the longer format captaincy and all the players were adopting to the style of Kohli captaincy so let it be and crush every opponents irrespective of how good they were playing cricket then only BCCI can make more money. Cheesy

Whether the fans like it or not, Kohli is going to be the captain for anther 6-7 years. So that means that Rohit Sharma would never get a chance to be the full time captain of India (unless he is planning to continue playing until he is 45 years old). So it will be better if the BCCI groom some of the players who are in their mid 20s such as Sreyas Iyer as the replacement to Kohli.

The same was told about Sourav Ganguly one of the best one day captain for India but, he got replaced by Dhoni very swiftly. You cannot underestimate these youngsters. Anyone can replace him in coming years, if the team doesnot win any big ICC tournaments under his captaincy, which by the way has not happened from 2013 he might get replaced.

Captains will be criticized when team is not performing well so possibility of replacing the captains if it goes for too long but as far now India is one of the best cricket team and getting more stronger everyday so the captain will not go into that criticized phase for new few years.

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Quote from: onrise on January 09, 2020, 12:40:37 PM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 09, 2020, 10:30:30 AM

Quote from: romero121 on January 09, 2020, 10:22:13 AM

Taking responsibility and leading the team isn't a simple task. No team gets good cricketer to be captain on the consecutive order. India is lucky to get Dhoni followed by Virat, and now we can't imagine any of the players to be the same as them. Pant is young and playing good, but I don't think he's good enough to take the captaincy of the leading cricket team.

My choice would be like this:

Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer

Rishabh Pant is too inexperienced to be considered for any future captaincy role. Also, from his behavior, it doesn't look like he can handle pressure situations. Virat is aggressive, but he doesn't lose his composure when he gets angry or irritated. The same can't be said about some of the other members in the present playing XI.

Virat or Rohit seems to the best for now and may be in coming years we will have somebody else nahi could lead India in various formats of the play. Tomorrow is the final T20 against SL and seems India should win it and with this will win the series too .

Srilanka will try to win this match at any cost, I also feel the same that they might win this match. There will be some changes in the team line up that is for sure. We need to wait and watch who are getting replaced. Toss will again play a crucial role.

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Quote from: onrise on January 09, 2020, 12:40:37 PM

Virat or Rohit seems to the best for now and may be in coming years we will have somebody else nahi could lead India in various formats of the play. Tomorrow is the final T20 against SL and seems India should win it and with this will win the series too .

I have seen Rohit captaining various sides, and I believe that he has the leadership quality. But as long as Virat Kohli remains as the Indian captain (which looks likely for the next 6-7 years), Rohit may never get a chance to lead the Indian side (Rohit is one year older than Virat). That is unless the BCCI decides to have separate captains for various formats such as Test, ODIs and T20s. In such case, Virat may be captaining the test team, Rohit will be the captain in ODI format and Sreyas Iyer will be given the responsibility in T20.

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Quote from: ubercool on January 09, 2020, 01:21:47 PM

I'm getting a feeling that Sri Lanka might win the tomorrow's match and draw the series. India is in great form right now with Virat and Rahul playing consistently but it's a habit of Indian team that whenever there is a easy match to win, they lose. It should not happen tomorrow but the chances are high for Sri Lanka imo.

Possible but I don't think there is a high chance for that to occur. Well even if they are able to give a big score, there are plenty of batsman who will cover that margin. The only way will be to pick up 3-4 wickets of India as quick as possible.

It will be interesting to see who wins the toss and decides what tomorrow. I think bowling first should be the favourite.

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I'm getting a feeling that Sri Lanka might win the tomorrow's match and draw the series. India is in great form right now with Virat and Rahul playing consistently but it's a habit of Indian team that whenever there is a easy match to win, they lose. It should not happen tomorrow but the chances are high for Sri Lanka imo.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 09, 2020, 10:30:30 AM

Quote from: romero121 on January 09, 2020, 10:22:13 AM

Taking responsibility and leading the team isn't a simple task. No team gets good cricketer to be captain on the consecutive order. India is lucky to get Dhoni followed by Virat, and now we can't imagine any of the players to be the same as them. Pant is young and playing good, but I don't think he's good enough to take the captaincy of the leading cricket team.

My choice would be like this:

Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer

Rishabh Pant is too inexperienced to be considered for any future captaincy role. Also, from his behavior, it doesn't look like he can handle pressure situations. Virat is aggressive, but he doesn't lose his composure when he gets angry or irritated. The same can't be said about some of the other members in the present playing XI.

Virat or Rohit seems to the best for now and may be in coming years we will have somebody else nahi could lead India in various formats of the play. Tomorrow is the final T20 against SL and seems India should win it and with this will win the series too .

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 09, 2020, 10:30:30 AM

My choice would be like this:
Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer
Rishabh Pant is too inexperienced to be considered for any future captaincy role. Also, from his behavior, it doesn't look like he can handle pressure situations. Virat is aggressive, but he doesn't lose his composure when he gets angry or irritated. The same can't be said about some of the other members in the present playing XI.

Rishabh Pant is to inexperienced to play international cricket in my opinion as the pressure to perform are getting to him and he is missing easy catches as well as stumping and if he is appointed as a captain then it would be a disaster and i bet he is not a good fit to become a captain with the way he is playing right now and if he shows the composure and experience in the future then we can talk about that, right now he is too raw to take any responsibilities.

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Quote from: romero121 on January 09, 2020, 10:22:13 AM

Taking responsibility and leading the team isn't a simple task. No team gets good cricketer to be captain on the consecutive order. India is lucky to get Dhoni followed by Virat, and now we can't imagine any of the players to be the same as them. Pant is young and playing good, but I don't think he's good enough to take the captaincy of the leading cricket team.

My choice would be like this:

Virat Kohli > Rohit Sharma > Sreyas Iyer

Rishabh Pant is too inexperienced to be considered for any future captaincy role. Also, from his behavior, it doesn't look like he can handle pressure situations. Virat is aggressive, but he doesn't lose his composure when he gets angry or irritated. The same can't be said about some of the other members in the present playing XI.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 09, 2020, 08:13:08 AM

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Indian Captain Virat is a legendary player and no one can doubt his selection, but the selectors should groom young players too who can replace him when the time comes for him to step down from the game. One player in my opinion who can fill his shows is their wicket keeper Rishabh Pant, though he’s been inconsistent with the bat I feel in the long run he’ll definitely be a good captain what do you’ll think of his chances to lead the Indian team?.

Well... Rishabh Pant is a very bizarre choice... First of all, he has yet to cement his place in the Indian team. And secondly, I can't remember Pant captaining any team in the IPL or the Ranji Trophy. Well.. he is young and he may be a future prospect. But first he needs to prove that he can captain domestic sides and handle the pressure properly. For now, my first preference would be Sreyas Iyer.

Taking responsibility and leading the team isn't a simple task. No team gets good cricketer to be captain on the consecutive order. India is lucky to get Dhoni followed by Virat, and now we can't imagine any of the players to be the same as them. Pant is young and playing good, but I don't think he's good enough to take the captaincy of the leading cricket team.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on January 09, 2020, 03:18:16 AM

Indian Captain Virat is a legendary player and no one can doubt his selection, but the selectors should groom young players too who can replace him when the time comes for him to step down from the game. One player in my opinion who can fill his shows is their wicket keeper Rishabh Pant, though he’s been inconsistent with the bat I feel in the long run he’ll definitely be a good captain what do you’ll think of his chances to lead the Indian team?.

Well... Rishabh Pant is a very bizarre choice... First of all, he has yet to cement his place in the Indian team. And secondly, I can't remember Pant captaining any team in the IPL or the Ranji Trophy. Well.. he is young and he may be a future prospect. But first he needs to prove that he can captain domestic sides and handle the pressure properly. For now, my first preference would be Sreyas Iyer.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 08, 2020, 09:00:18 PM

Quote from: mersal on January 08, 2020, 12:14:14 PM

I think India is not in need of replacement in captaincy since Kohli is still too young so India will not going to make any tests for the longer format captaincy and all the players were adopting to the style of Kohli captaincy so let it be and crush every opponents irrespective of how good they were playing cricket then only BCCI can make more money. Cheesy

Whether the fans like it or not, Kohli is going to be the captain for anther 6-7 years. So that means that Rohit Sharma would never get a chance to be the full time captain of India (unless he is planning to continue playing until he is 45 years old). So it will be better if the BCCI groom some of the players who are in their mid 20s such as Sreyas Iyer as the replacement to Kohli.

The same was told about Sourav Ganguly one of the best one day captain for India but, he got replaced by Dhoni very swiftly. You cannot underestimate these youngsters. Anyone can replace him in coming years, if the team doesnot win any big ICC tournaments under his captaincy, which by the way has not happened from 2013 he might get replaced.

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