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Kohli -

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Indian Captain Virat is a legendary player and no one can doubt his selection, but the selectors should groom young players too who can replace him when the time comes for him to step down from the game. One player in my opinion who can fill his shows is their wicket keeper Rishabh Pant, though he’s been inconsistent with the bat I feel in the long run he’ll definitely be a good captain what do you’ll think of his chances to lead the Indian team?.

Note : It was misunderstanding between me and @deadly due to the context. hope its clear now if he already read it.

In next 5-10 years Not only Rishabh but there are good amount of new blood who possess the ability to lead the Team India in near future. Shryes Iyer, Prithwi Shaw, Shubham Gill comes to top of my mind as of now.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 08, 2020, 12:24:38 PM

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Kohli - His presence in the squad is debatable. one can argue that he should skip and give chance to younger (Sanju) player or completely opposite that he should play the T-20 match because Rohit is not plying/ Practice for T-20 world cup. i don't mind if he skips any T-20 series along with Rohit (if its possible). In their absense Shreyas Iyer can easily manage captaincy in T-20.

No way, his presence in squad is not debatable at all. He is best player of all format. Seriously doubting your cricket knowledge.

Context is important in any discussion IMHO. One has to be retard if s-he undermining player like Virat in the modern cricket so it doesn't come to cricketing knowledge.

My response was for " should senior players give chance to young players or not?" in case of Virat when i say "debatable". I am not questioning Virat's capabilities but searching for any possible scenario. If he's available or not for the T-20 format (historically he takes rest from low profile series, that's a case at least in last 2 years) Hope this clear your confusion?

Indian Captain Virat is a legendary player and no one can doubt his selection, but the selectors should groom young players too who can replace him when the time comes for him to step down from the game. One player in my opinion who can fill his shows is their wicket keeper Rishabh Pant, though he’s been inconsistent with the bat I feel in the long run he’ll definitely be a good captain what do you’ll think of his chances to lead the Indian team?.

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ICC T20 World Cup 2020 statement: Australian bushfire crisis

https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1562842

Good to see many of the global cricket stars tweeting about this crisis and requesting everyone to help. Let's hope Australia gets rid of this fire ASAP. Sad

Bush fire is getting unstoppable and not much support from other governments as I read,only people are busy with discussing Iran and US attacks they for get about 1.2 Million hectares were burning and still counting these tweets might get some attention but governments should help because they are the only one can.

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Quote from: mersal on January 08, 2020, 12:14:14 PM

I think India is not in need of replacement in captaincy since Kohli is still too young so India will not going to make any tests for the longer format captaincy and all the players were adopting to the style of Kohli captaincy so let it be and crush every opponents irrespective of how good they were playing cricket then only BCCI can make more money. Cheesy

Whether the fans like it or not, Kohli is going to be the captain for anther 6-7 years. So that means that Rohit Sharma would never get a chance to be the full time captain of India (unless he is planning to continue playing until he is 45 years old). So it will be better if the BCCI groom some of the players who are in their mid 20s such as Sreyas Iyer as the replacement to Kohli.

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ICC T20 World Cup 2020 statement: Australian bushfire crisis

https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1562842

Good to see many of the global cricket stars tweeting about this crisis and requesting everyone to help. Let's hope Australia gets rid of this fire ASAP. Sad

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Quote from: deadley on January 08, 2020, 11:39:08 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on January 08, 2020, 05:41:32 AM

Kohli - His presence in the squad is debatable. one can argue that he should skip and give chance to younger (Sanju) player or completely opposite that he should play the T-20 match because Rohit is not plying/ Practice for T-20 world cup. i don't mind if he skips any T-20 series along with Rohit (if its possible). In their absense Shreyas Iyer can easily manage captaincy in T-20.

No way, his presence in squad is not debatable at all. He is best player of all format. Seriously doubting your cricket knowledge.

Context is important in any discussion IMHO. One has to be retard if s-he undermining player like Virat in the modern cricket so it doesn't come to cricketing knowledge.

My response was for " should senior players give chance to young players or not?" in case of Virat when i say "debatable". I am not questioning Virat's capabilities but searching for any possible scenario. If he's available or not for the T-20 format (historically he takes rest from low profile series, that's a case at least in last 2 years) Hope this clear your confusion?

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 08, 2020, 12:09:05 PM

Quote from: deadley on January 08, 2020, 11:39:08 AM

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No way, his presence in squad is not debatable at all. He is best player of all format. Seriously doubting your cricket knowledge.

He might have said that in the context when India is playing weaker teams like Bangladesh West Indies or Sri Lanka that the main players should give opportunities for new players. There is no doubt about the importance of Kohli in the team as he is the best batsman in the world throughout formats and he is performing consistently for India for a long time and his stats shows that.

I think India is not in need of replacement in captaincy since Kohli is still too young so India will not going to make any tests for the longer format captaincy and all the players were adopting to the style of Kohli captaincy so let it be and crush every opponents irrespective of how good they were playing cricket then only BCCI can make more money. Cheesy

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Quote from: deadley on January 08, 2020, 11:39:08 AM

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No way, his presence in squad is not debatable at all. He is best player of all format. Seriously doubting your cricket knowledge.

He might have said that in the context when India is playing weaker teams like Bangladesh West Indies or Sri Lanka that the main players should give opportunities for new players. There is no doubt about the importance of Kohli in the team as he is the best batsman in the world throughout formats and he is performing consistently for India for a long time and his stats shows that.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 07, 2020, 09:08:14 PM

I guess the senior players are afraid of losing their place in the team, in case some of these youngsters perform well. Perhaps that is the reason why they are not giving any chances for the younger players, even against weak teams such as Sri Lanka. Now one more match is remaining in this series, and ideally they should rest some of the seniors such as Kohli, Dhawan and Rahul and give chances to players like Sanju Samson and Manish Pandey.

It is a competitive sport and players will be trying to secure their place and there are a lot of events where they can showcase their talent in India because of IPL and if they are able to perform really well then they will be selected and if they perform consistently then how come they will be replaced if a senior players wanted to come back. If senior players are not performing then they will be replaced as they are in the team as long as they perform.

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Quote from: JSRAW on January 08, 2020, 05:41:32 AM

Kohli - His presence in the squad is debatable. one can argue that he should skip and give chance to younger (Sanju) player or completely opposite that he should play the T-20 match because Rohit is not plying/ Practice for T-20 world cup. i don't mind if he skips any T-20 series along with Rohit (if its possible). In their absense Shreyas Iyer can easily manage captaincy in T-20.

No way, his presence in squad is not debatable at all. He is best player of all format. Seriously doubting your cricket knowledge.

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Quote from: webtricks on January 08, 2020, 09:07:55 AM

Shreyas Iyer is one of my favorite player right from the IPL season when he was opener for DD and ended that season as a player scoring second most sixes right after Chris Gayle.
I think he plays his most natural game as an opener so India should try him as opener in T20 format and that may bring positive results for the team. He is a player who can give you the career of 10-12 years as a top-class player.

That's a unique point picked by JSRAW there^^ . I recall Iyer doing so well in DC(Delhi Capitals) last year that out of form Gambhier (then) decided to step down as captain and gave it to Iyer to lead. Though DC didn't did well but Iyer played some good knocks alone for DC.

It will be interesting to see if he gets tested as captain but it will be hard I guess. Maybe in scenario if management decides to test whole young lineup then naturally he might get tested.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 08, 2020, 08:21:00 AM

^^^^ I agree with JSRAW. Sreyas Iyer can be tested as the T20 captain. He is young, and he has captained his side in the IPL. He is one of the players, who has the potential and caliber to become the backbone of the Indian batting lineup in the future. Also, I agree on Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul. For now, these players need some match practice.

Shreyas Iyer is one of my favorite player right from the IPL season when he was opener for DD and ended that season as a player scoring second most sixes right after Chris Gayle.
I think he plays his most natural game as an opener so India should try him as opener in T20 format and that may bring positive results for the team. He is a player who can give you the career of 10-12 years as a top-class player.

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^^^^ I agree with JSRAW. Sreyas Iyer can be tested as the T20 captain. He is young, and he has captained his side in the IPL. He is one of the players, who has the potential and caliber to become the backbone of the Indian batting lineup in the future. Also, I agree on Shikhar Dhawan and KL Rahul. For now, these players need some match practice.

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I am also waiting to see players like Sanju Samson performing in international arena but his fate is to get picked in the team and keep on warming the bench series after series even when major players are rested. When India chased a total of 200 there was Rohit Sharma in the team and can take on any bowlers and if Sri Lanka makes a huge target like that then it will be a difficult task.

I guess the senior players are afraid of losing their place in the team, in case some of these youngsters perform well. Perhaps that is the reason why they are not giving any chances for the younger players, even against weak teams such as Sri Lanka. Now one more match is remaining in this series, and ideally they should rest some of the seniors such as Kohli, Dhawan and Rahul and give chances to players like Sanju Samson and Manish Pandey.

I beg to differ from your analysis, i see things slightly differently.

Dhawan - He didn't play much cricket after the World cup due to injury and he's technically out from the Test cricket for good. So match practice is necessary for him.

KL Rahul - He's out from the Test Cricket and management trying hard to fit him at the top order in ODI/T-20. Rohit is taking rest so he is the first choice for opener and Sanju/Manish are middle order batsmen.

Kohli - His presence in the squad is debatable. one can argue that he should skip and give chance to younger (Sanju) player or completely opposite that he should play the T-20 match because Rohit is not plying/ Practice for T-20 world cup. i don't mind if he skips any T-20 series along with Rohit (if its possible). In their absense Shreyas Iyer can easily manage captaincy in T-20.

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India would be happy the way the team composite of new and senior players have performed and also the bowlers did an fantastic job of picking the wickets at regular interval . I think now more couple of youngsters could be given a chance in final T20 match as India lead by 1-0

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 07, 2020, 12:13:47 PM

I am also waiting to see players like Sanju Samson performing in international arena but his fate is to get picked in the team and keep on warming the bench series after series even when major players are rested. When India chased a total of 200 there was Rohit Sharma in the team and can take on any bowlers and if Sri Lanka makes a huge target like that then it will be a difficult task.

I guess the senior players are afraid of losing their place in the team, in case some of these youngsters perform well. Perhaps that is the reason why they are not giving any chances for the younger players, even against weak teams such as Sri Lanka. Now one more match is remaining in this series, and ideally they should rest some of the seniors such as Kohli, Dhawan and Rahul and give chances to players like Sanju Samson and Manish Pandey.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on January 07, 2020, 12:13:47 PM

I am also waiting to see players like Sanju Samson performing in international arena but his fate is to get picked in the team and keep on warming the bench series after series even when major players are rested.

Is this the same situation when Usman Khawaja was not selected in the team even though he was performing really well in the domestic circuit and it took some time for the selectors wanted to pick him in the team even though there was a lot of criticism because of his non selection and eventually he was picked in the team and that will be the case of Smason too, if he is playing well and performing consistently he cannot be neglected for a long time.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 07, 2020, 11:58:25 AM

This Indian side has recently chased 200 plus scores successfully (against West Indies). A target of 143 was like child's play for them. On top of that, apart from Lasith Malinga the Sri Lankan side is missing good bowlers. India should have rested some of their star players such as Virat Kohli and KL Rahul. It may not be a bad idea to give a few matches to players such as Sanju Samson.

I am also waiting to see players like Sanju Samson performing in international arena but his fate is to get picked in the team and keep on warming the bench series after series even when major players are rested. When India chased a total of 200 there was Rohit Sharma in the team and can take on any bowlers and if Sri Lanka makes a huge target like that then it will be a difficult task.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on January 07, 2020, 11:50:04 AM

That is right it became no fun after India' s bowling. I did not see the batting part cause I knew it will be achieved easily. Just checked the score and felt srilanka has a very weak T20 team.

This Indian side has recently chased 200 plus scores successfully (against West Indies). A target of 143 was like child's play for them. On top of that, apart from Lasith Malinga the Sri Lankan side is missing good bowlers. India should have rested some of their star players such as Virat Kohli and KL Rahul. It may not be a bad idea to give a few matches to players such as Sanju Samson.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on January 07, 2020, 11:28:01 AM

Quote from: onrise on January 07, 2020, 11:16:31 AM

India has started well though both the openers are back in pavilion and and now India just require another 53 in 46 balls and have 8 wickets in hand . It should be an easy chase unless India loses some quick wickets now and end up in a troubled zone .

There is no fun in watching such one sided matches. I was watching the South Africa vs England test and switching back to Star Sports just to check the score from the T20 match. I was expecting a slightly better performance from Sri Lanka (still expecting them to lose), as they are better in the shorter formats. But they failed in every single department.

That is right it became no fun after India' s bowling. I did not see the batting part cause I knew it will be achieved easily. Just checked the score and felt srilanka has a very weak T20 team.

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