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Quote from: machinek20 on March 29, 2017, 08:08:52 AM

Atheist is a choice, as long as the person doesn't hurt anybody and doesnt forced anyone to become atheist, i think is okay, if the person feel peace by being atheist then it is a good thing for that person, an atheist doesn't mean that he is a bad person

Actually, it is not a choice. More like a lack of reasonable choices.

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Religion is a tool for the enslavement of the people and the state. No wonder religious denominations do not pay taxes. They are beneficial to the state.

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There are all kind of fanatics on this world. Some of them are religious and some aren't. But in this cast I think that we can say that Atheistic belief is some kind of religion here. They believe so hard in what they think its right, to that point that its almost like fanatics from other religions. They will do anything to prove you wrong, and that is bad in so many ways. I hope that this "religion" won't last long, because it could destroy us like dark times of inquisition did, if it grows.

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Quote from: af_newbie on March 29, 2017, 11:23:11 AM

Quote from: machinek20 on March 29, 2017, 08:08:52 AM

Atheist is a choice, as long as the person doesn't hurt anybody and doesnt forced anyone to become atheist, i think is okay, if the person feel peace by being atheist then it is a good thing for that person, an atheist doesn't mean that he is a bad person

Actually, it is not a choice. More like a lack of reasonable choices.

It is a choice... it's a choice to accept reality the way it actually is, rather than believing in fairy tales...

It is a choice to not believe in gremlins
It is a choice to not believe in unicorns
It is a choice to not believe in fire-breathing dragons

The choice is truth over fantasy

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I'm atheist too, I'm not stating that being an atheist means to be a bad person, actually no religion or irreligion automatically makes anybody a good or bad person.
I'm talking about is some atheist gatherings that are jumping off the handle and working their ways in a pretty much similar to some known religions way.

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Atheist is a choice, as long as the person doesn't hurt anybody and doesnt forced anyone to become atheist, i think is okay, if the person feel peace by being atheist then it is a good thing for that person, an atheist doesn't mean that he is a bad person

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Up until now there're no extremely violent (violent there're already, such as vandalism) atheist's fundamentalist strikes. But on the way I see some atheist organizations going, such as FFRF, it's just a matter of time until they start "sharing love" on a "black flag with some arabic sayings" way.

What makes fundamentalists dangerous isn't what they stand for, but how they do it. When someone thinks to be so right that anyone else starts to look so definitely wrong at his eyes, then anything becomes justifiable for that one in order to stop the "wrongdoers" actions.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2017, 10:58:45 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on March 25, 2017, 09:10:58 PM

IMHO militant atheism...

Well most of the atheists we see in the public tend to a bit like that. The most "violent" I see them doing is interfering in certain religious celebrations.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2017, 10:58:45 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on March 25, 2017, 09:10:58 PM

IMHO militant atheism...

Militant atheist:

Suggests that militant atheists are peaceful so that he can work his way into directing others to use violence.

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LOL, isn't that a bit like those religions where it's all lovey-dovey when you join and then a few months later you find your self strapping bombs. Granted there are asshole atheists too, a quick look at religion-related videos on YouTube would show that. They can be quite pricks, starting arguments here and there. I'd prefer people yelling insults at me than threatening to chop off my head. I see people pointing out that so and so guy was atheist and committed a lot of atrocities but (assuming that they are without a doubt confirmed to be atheist) isn't that basically the same as all the violence committed under religion. Fundamentalists hold their ir/religion/ideology above everything else, even human life.

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Quote from: Moloch on March 27, 2017, 10:58:45 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on March 25, 2017, 09:10:58 PM

IMHO militant atheism...

Militant atheist:

Suggests that militant atheists are peaceful so that he can work his way into directing others to use violence.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on March 28, 2017, 07:53:46 PM

The question isn't about opposing religion at State, but pick the right fights. A Secular State can't have religion, but communities does.
When we loose sight of our battles, we became an odd proselytistic (un)religion one inch away from being knocking door to door as some "accident witnesses".

The State can have a semblance of religion, if a religion is written into the State. The State is paperwork, and means nothing if people don't use and stand behind the paperwork.

People in a State, even if they know all the words written in the State documents, always have a difference of opinion. It is the same with any religion. When people trust in the State like they would trust in a religion, they have a State religion in themselves. The State paperwork means nothing without the hearts and minds of people applying it.

A good example of a State religion In the U.S. is, people seek attorneys to go to court. This places them under the jurisdiction of the court, making the court to be contesting itself.

If people went to court, present as a man or woman (not represented), they would be over the state, and could hold their contest with other men or women, even with government people, and not have interference from the government.

This is why judges attempt to state that the court is their court. They are trying to keep everyone in the government. When a man brings a case against another man, it is the accuser's court, if he can show the judge the law that shows that it is NOT the judges court.

State religion abounds when people do not realize that they can step outside of and above government.

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The question isn't about opposing religion at State, but pick the right fights. A Secular State can't have religion, but communities does.
When we loose sight of our battles, we became an odd proselytistic (un)religion one inch away from being knocking door to door as some "accident witnesses".

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Quote from: Mometaskers on March 25, 2017, 09:10:58 PM

IMHO militant atheism...

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atheist is only belief, i think its not different to other religion. they are always compare their belief and blasphemy.

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IMHO militant atheism is the direct result of the wave of Islamist attacks, especially 9/11. Prior to this I usually don't find atheists this outspoken. The spat of resulting violence must have prompted some who are genuinely worried of how religion is being used to just atrocities.

I myself have considered my self irreligious. I can point this to the surge of fundamentalism we've seen in past years. This has thrown Islam into the open for criticism and I came to the conclusion that considering how centuries have past, it would no longer be easy to say which is which and it's kinda hard to believe they can all be true.

Though I won't go so far as to ban religion, I think it's in the best interest of everyone to keep religion out of public policy. Try to make policies favoring one group over the other would just cause more animosity between them. Even the religious would benefit from a healthy dose of skepticism to prevent them from being radicalized.

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holy spam badman

Do you think the one who yells the most wins?

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Quote from: SuperVillain on February 05, 2017, 06:10:53 AM

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I suppose it is because atheists can't prove there isn't a God, but won't admit to being agnostics when they realize this.

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Quote from: Lacander on February 05, 2017, 05:37:05 AM

Quote from: Docnaster on February 05, 2017, 05:30:25 AM

Personally I don't see any problem in people who are atheists. We have a freedom to choose who we believe in, what we believe in or if we believe in anything at all. We have different philosophies in our life and different point of views our choice is our, we should not judge them let just mind our own business.

Atheists generally do not create problems. As far as I know atheists are not provoked any armed conflict. Religions are constantly at war for the minds of citizens with weapons in their hands and persecute dissidents.

Stalin may not have been an atheist. But he was close. Sixty to 100 million of his own people executed.

Genghis Khan killed 12 million. But he didn't do it for religious purposes. In fact, he even promoted religious freedom to religions other than his shamanism. Since he didn't do it for religious purposes, he was like an atheist in his wars.

Hitler might have been a religious person; he may have even believed in God. Yet his religiosity was not the thing that drove him to make war. Regarding war making, he might as well have been an atheist.

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Quote from: Docnaster on February 05, 2017, 05:30:25 AM

Personally I don't see any problem in people who are atheists. We have a freedom to choose who we believe in, what we believe in or if we believe in anything at all. We have different philosophies in our life and different point of views our choice is our, we should not judge them let just mind our own business.

The problem is that there aren't any atheists. There are only liars who call themselves atheists.

How do we know? We know by the fact that atheists have such limited knowledge that they can't come close to proving that God DOESN'T exist. And they know it. Especially if they have enough of a brain that they can think about it.

If atheists were honest, they would be agnostics... because they don't know for a fact that God doesn't exist. The fact that they continue to confess to atheism even after they read this, shows that they have an agenda of lies.

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Quote from: popcorn1 on February 04, 2017, 12:54:20 AM

EVEN YOUR GOD WANTS WAR..He hates people talking about him..So what are you going to do religious freaks.. Cheesy

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DUMB FUCKS GETTING UPSET ABOUT NOTHING Cheesy

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It's a fact religious people are CRAZIES..I know my cousin one..

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2 Timothy 2:4
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No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier.

Ephesians 6:13
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Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.

Philippians 4:13
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I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.

John 16:33
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"These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

2 Samuel 22:2-4
He said, "The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer; My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence. "I call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised, And I am saved from my enemies.

Matthew 28:19-20
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age."

Joshua 1:9
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"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous! Do not tremble or be dismayed, for the LORD your God is with you wherever you go."

Psalm 41:1-3
How blessed is he who considers the helpless; The LORD will deliver him in a day of trouble. The LORD will protect him and keep him alive, And he shall be called blessed upon the earth; And do not give him over to the desire of his enemies. The LORD will sustain him upon his sickbed; In his illness, You restore him to health.

Psalm 138:7
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Though I walk in the midst of trouble, You will revive me; You will stretch forth Your hand against the wrath of my enemies, And Your right hand will save me.

Titus 1:16
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They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.

John 8:12
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Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life."

And that is suppose to give me courage for war for the kings and queens.. ALL BULLSHIT STORIES..

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And the VICARS THINK YOUR A BITCH TOO

When the peaceful can't get the violent to stop making war, they have to make war against the violent, just to quell the violence and get peace. That is what is being done in every instance wherein God suggests and makes war.

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