The Bible record is eye witness accounts, and is way more accurate.
@Puddleduck.......
When Jesus was in the desert for forty days (Matthew 4) or praying in the Garden at Gethsemane (Mark 14), He was by Himself. How did anyone know what He said or did, since there were no eyewitnesses to what happened?
Kind of wrecks your eyewitness account buddy.
Keep trying.
You're kinda off topic, aren't you? Where is the atheism in the things that you say?
John 8:13-17:
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13 The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”
14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are right, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”
The point? Atheism doesn't really exist. It almost does, as a religion, in those who love to maintain fiction as reality.
Come now Puddleduck, you know very well that a discussion is a 2 way communication. You stated a fact, I disproved.
By disproving your basis of the bible is disproving your religion and proving my Atheist stance.
I figured an "intelligent" person like yourself would understand that principle.
As for your bible quote..... that only works for those who believe in the Bible.
"The world is not in your books and maps, it’s out there" – Gandalf "The Hobbit"
Keep trying buddy!
You haven't really thought this through. Here's what I mean.
If someone has a religion that he thinks is true, and he doesn't have contradictions to that religion that are logical and right, then he has a religion of the thing that he says.
For you, however, atheism isn't a religion. Your real religion is your attempt to maintain atheism as a religion... not the atheism itself. Why? Because you know for a fact that you don't know that God doesn't exist... which is another way of saying that you know that God might exist. Since you know that God might exist, atheism isn't the thing you believe, and atheism isn't your religion. Attempted atheism is your religion.
All your blabber about other religions is simply off topic, designed by you to help avoid realizing any more than absolutely necessary that atheism isn't anything but babble for you. I mean, how else can you participate in a thread that reminds you that you aren't really an atheist, and that you don't really believe in atheism? You are doing what you can do to create nonsense to take the focus of the ridiculousness of the atheism idea.
Why are you doing this? My guess is that since you can't disprove God, you want to take over, and push yourself up to the position of godhood above God. Well, you just aren't good enough for that. Why not just recognize God, Who has been proven to exist, and then find His salvation, so that you can live?
Your god has never been proven to exist, so how can anyone disprove that?
For all your blabber you don't keep to your single stance.
Why do you do this? My guess is because you are so scared of doing something wrong, that you want to blame it on something else. You are trying to avoid the single aspect of your life which is that you will ultimately fail. You want to blame all of your failure's on others.
God has been scientifically proven to exist. But for you it works like this.
Imagine that big bang theory were proven to be factual. Then, suppose that you read the proof, which included all the math in the theory. Do you understand the math of big bang theory? Maybe. But if you don't, big bang has not been proven for you.
The fact that you suggest that there is no proof for the existence of God, simply shows how mentally inept you are. If you had said, "I don't understand the proof, therefore there isn't any proof for me," you would be showing yourself to be honest, maybe. At least you would be a lot closer to honesty than the way you are treating the situation.
But if you say, "I understand the so-called proof, and have found it to NOT be truth..." But where is your rebuttal? You haven't shown any. In this case you are found out to be a simple liar.
What are you so afraid of? The truth of acknowledging the existence of God doesn't hurt anyone. Just the opposite. It helps all people. Are you a paid troll? Even a troll should acknowledge God. Have you been hurt by finally seeing that God exists? A little pain is far better than running around in ignorance.
At least you are a bit closer to talking about atheism with your post, as the tread suggests.
Once again Puddleduck, you keep swimming in your pond oblivious to the world around you.
Stop trying to assume you know what I think and what I believe and instead concentrate on proving what you can.
You have not proven your gods existence so there is nothing to disprove.
