Topic: Taxation [discussion] - page 5. (Read 3983 times)

If there were to be a general BTC tax, it would have to be flat and a %.

Still - It would mean that all the countries in the world would have to cooperate, and that is not really likely.
This means that if there ever is implemented some kind of general/global tax on BTC it would be a good thing, because it would also mean that all the nations would be united in a meaningful way.

Even though some seem to think that BTC will replace FIAT currencies, I think they are a tad too optimistic on behalf of BTC. Cryptocurrencies is just a suplement, it will not replace currency under national controls.

You have to pay for public education right now.

So you want Bitcoin to be a model to flee from this?
Public education was an important step for mankind, if you want to go back to the days where 90% of the people didn't had any school.
Then yeah... then I think you are stupid.

And those who don't agree with your idea of public education, should be put in a cage, right?

So if I don't want to get robbed by some criminals, that's betrayal? Gosh, some statists are really heavily indoctrinated.

But yeah, without our wise overlords, we couldn't possibly figure out how to build roads and schools. There's no way, even
if it happened already in the past.

Anarchist, huh?
There are things that the community has to pay for together, if you like it or not.
E.g. I want a country to have schools, because I don't want to live in a world where everybody is stupid.

Betray?

Taxation is not the downfall of bitcoin, bitcoin is the downfall of taxation.

Why?
Could you provide some reasoning to this?

You will have to pay taxes one way or another, unless you betray.
So why not approach an open, fair way to do so?

No thanks.

In the case of a huge Bitcoin success:
At one point or another the Bitcoin system will crash with the need for a tax to sustain the states.
Maybe we don't agree with a lot of things that are done by them, but we need infrastructure, education, police and so on.
We then will suffer from a lot of tries to control or destroy the bitcoin system, because the states have no other choice to do so.

What if we as Bitcoin community would offer a deal?
We could try to create a fair taxation model and integrate this into the Bitcoin system?
It would make things easier for all of us.

I know it's really difficult to create something that everyone agrees on to be fair.

Keys:
- The tax amount must not be depending on where you live
- It shouldn't be an additional transaction fee, because this would encourage hoarding
- Due to the fact that nobody can see who owns how many wallets/adresses the tax would have to be in % and be applied on every adress.
- It should provide a good chunk of the needed tax of a state
- States shouldn't be able to manipulate it in any way

We would end up in an automated system, that would end all of tax fraud
Everyone except those that try to betray, everyone else would win!


So why should we do this?

We would avoid a lot of conflicts.
Also it's a chance to create a better world, with less betrayal.


Edit:

Free will to cooperate and include this in the client to accomplish a fair and easy regulation, before the states come and force it down on us.
Because when they do, it will be everything but fair and easy.

Maybe they will enforce laws control over the internet, tax fraud is a great excuse to do so.
Maybe they will try to crush Bitcoin by banning the exchanges.
Things like that could be avoided.