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legendary
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try v1.14..



I get 0.0055 eth from flexpool. A better poolside hashrate doesn't always mean a better revenue.

TBMiner  v1.14 on miningpoolhub default setting seem give around 5-10% more ethereum than flexpool on the default setting. poolside test. Higher poolside hashrate, higher payouts..



I'm still unsure which pool to use with 1-2% stales and 700 MH/s. Pools don't seem to publish how they treat stales.

Mining Pools change their code too.. Most of the mining pool sourcecode is based on bitcoin based blockchains and cpu mining. A cpu has 1-16 cores, and a search can be aborted quickly.

The rtx 3090 has 10496 cuda cores.(processors). When a pool ask the miner to do a seach, all the 10500 cores are used. TBMiner is letting the 10500 cores complete their task before starting on a new job. Some pools send out a job, and then another job just a few ms after. and then declining the work of the first job. This pool fuck is forcing the modern gpu to run at "cpu style" speeds. loosing 10-20% because it has to abort the work all the time.
The ethereum blockchain is rewarding stale work, proper written pool software can reward the extra 10-20% to the miners instead.

We have a sideproject to write a new poolsoftware in The Team Black. We will scrap the stratum protocol. Opensource code...


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copper member
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10 mhs slower with 6 gpu rig, just try it a couple minute ago

What cards in the rig, which pool, which launch configuration?

1070ti, 2080ti, 2070 super, all default setup on miner command, ethermine pool
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legendary
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Team Black developer
IMHO there is a lot of confusion around this xintensity, now default of 1200 is good for certain pools and just for NVidia cards (not AMD).
Is not possible that the miner automatically detects GPUs and pools (at least the most famous ones), applying the right value?
Then, if you still need to fine tune, you can still modify it manually.

yes, this is probobly what we need to do. optimal defaults. The problem is that the rig will show different local speed at different pools.

mine at flexpool: 175MHASH, mine at Nanopool 180MHASH (because flexpool is rejecing all the stale work)

But then again flexpool might give higher payouts than nanopool.

In v1.14 on Amd the the dynamic intensity has been changed , and should perform well on most pools.
jr. member
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For this release, do we still need to specify the xintensity value since by default it is configured to 1200?

No need if you mine on miningpoolhub, 2miners, nanopool and many others.

But

Flexpool, ethermine,  nicehash probobly need a lower --xintensity

IMHO there is a lot of confusion around this xintensity, now default of 1200 is good for certain pools and just for NVidia cards (not AMD).
Is not possible that the miner automatically detects GPUs and pools (at least the most famous ones), applying the right value?
Then, if you still need to fine tune, you can still modify it manually.
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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
For this release, do we still need to specify the xintensity value since by default it is configured to 1200?

No need if you mine on miningpoolhub, 2miners, nanopool and many others.

But

Flexpool, ethermine,  nicehash probobly need a lower --xintensity
copper member
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All my gpus in all rigs are in P0 state for many years, it is something else.

Here in p0 clocks are stable except when temp is to hot, or the card doesn't have enough power.

Anyway v1.14 has been released. check it out. v1.14 has few detected stales on miningpoolhub on --xintensity 1200 (default) and the poolside profit is amazing.

For this release, do we still need to specify the xintensity value since by default it is configured to 1200?
jr. member
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It's from mmpOS shell

So it's a bug in mmpOs. The cuda toolkit has a switch to sort gpu's. We use the sortorder of the best gpu first in the list. (default)

v1.14 beta has been released. Windows only for now.


I'm facing this weird problem just with a mixed rig with 4x3080 and 2x3070
With rigs full of 3080 no issues on average hashrate
Hope this helps
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legendary
Activity: 2926
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Team Black developer
All my gpus in all rigs are in P0 state for many years, it is something else.

Here in p0 clocks are stable except when temp is to hot, or the card doesn't have enough power.

Anyway v1.14 has been released. check it out. v1.14 has few detected stales on miningpoolhub on --xintensity 1200 (default) and the poolside profit is amazing.
jr. member
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Your miner does not support core-locking and i dont like to lock cores by hand for every gpu in that rig (3060 rev 1, 3060 ti, 3070).

If it can be done with the nvidia-smi it's easy to include. We write it down as a feature request.
Locking the clocks can also be done by forcing the gpu into p0 state with  the nvidia profile inspector.
Reboot the rig, and then set the clocks in Msi afterburner afterwards.
The clocks will stay the same after reboot if you click on the box to remember your settings. So you only need to tune once, until you reinstall the driver.

All my gpus in all rigs are in P0 state for many years, it is something else.
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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
It's from mmpOS shell

So it's a bug in mmpOs. The cuda toolkit has a switch to sort gpu's. We use the sortorder of the best gpu first in the list. (default)

v1.14 beta has been released. Windows only for now.




Team Black Miner V1.14 beta

v1.14
1. Added gpu watchdog, Automatic restart gpu threads on crash.
2. Fixed amd-only option if nvidia drivers where installed but no nvidia gpus enabled.
3. Faster NVIDIA. Increased the default xintensity. Decrease the --xintensity on pools that doesn't pay for stale shares.
4. Force the average hashrate to display at startup even if it has few samples.

https://github.com/sp-hash/TeamBlackMiner/releases/

TeamBlackMiner_1_14_cuda_11_4_beta.7z

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/58103e66bf9957dfa32b0b5ff01f6c14ea499d936a00d1bf949a28beb5539682?nocache=1




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jr. member
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Your sortorder is strange seems to be an index mismatch. Cuda normally sort the best cards first in the rig, so I would expect the 3080 cards be be listed first

this is not the original output of the miner:

[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:

so where did you get it from?

It's from mmpOS shell
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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Your sortorder is strange seems to be an index mismatch. Cuda normally sort the best cards first in the rig, so I would expect the 3080 cards be be listed first

this is not the original output of the miner:

[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:

so where did you get it from?
jr. member
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Please check also the average hashrates (especially on the two 3070).

│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] ID      BOARD   HASHRATE/W      HASHRATE        AVERAGE         SHARES                                                                   
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU0   3080    431.51 kH/W     100.97 MH/s     89.32 MH/s      76/0/1 (100.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU1   3070    515.61 kH/W     64.45 MH/s      86.99 MH/s      31/0/0 (100.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU2   3080    455.42 kH/W     102.01 MH/s     92.62 MH/s      67/0/2 (100.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU3   3080    451.38 kH/W     102.01 MH/s     89.50 MH/s      58/0/1 (100.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU4   3070    541.79 kH/W     64.47 MH/s      83.24 MH/s      34/6/2 (85.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327] GPU5   3080    472.29 kH/W     102.01 MH/s     102.01 MH/s     68/0/2 (100.00%)                                                           
│[2021-10-12 13:42:05][info][miner/0]:    139m [2021-10-12 13:42:04.327]              2868.01 kH/W    535.94 MH/s     543.69 MH/s     334/6/8 (98.24%) 
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legendary
Activity: 2926
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Team Black developer
jr. member
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It seems it's looking for NVidia cards, not present on this rig...

What does your launch config look like? (bat file)

--algo ethash --hostname %pool_server% %pool_protocol% %pool_port% --wallet %user% --worker_name %rig_name% --api --api-ip 127.0.0.1 --api-port %api_port% --amd-only --xintensity 352
sp_
legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Your miner does not support core-locking and i dont like to lock cores by hand for every gpu in that rig (3060 rev 1, 3060 ti, 3070).

If it can be done with the nvidia-smi it's easy to include. We write it down as a feature request.
Locking the clocks can also be done by forcing the gpu into p0 state with  the nvidia profile inspector.
Reboot the rig, and then set the clocks in Msi afterburner afterwards.
The clocks will stay the same after reboot if you click on the box to remember your settings. So you only need to tune once, until you reinstall the driver.



It seems it's looking for NVidia cards, not present on this rig...

What does your launch config look like? (bat file)

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jr. member
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Another problem I found with my rig with just AMD RX6800 cards:
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.318] GPU0 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                   
Solutions?

352 is too high xintensity for AMD cards

But the miner exit with this error:

A cuda runtime error occured: no CUDA-capable device is detected

It seems it's looking for NVidia cards, not present on this rig...



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But this could be a bug. was this in v1.13?

YES, ver 1.13

Tried also with --amd-only option with no success

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legendary
Activity: 2926
Merit: 1087
Team Black developer
Another problem I found with my rig with just AMD RX6800 cards:
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.318] GPU0 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                    
Solutions?

352 is too high xintensity for AMD cards

[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.215] source/sp_workers/cuda_gpu.cpp:cuda_get_num_devices():73: A cuda runtime error occured: no CUDA-capable device is detected           

But this could be a bug. was this in v1.13?
jr. member
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Another problem I found with my rig with just AMD RX6800 cards:

│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.318] GPU0 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.625] GPU6 DAG generated in 7.67 seconds (4702206kb)                                                                                           
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.625] GPU6 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:45.852] GPU5 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.045] GPU4 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.421] GPU3 DAG generated in 8.46 seconds (4702206kb)                                                                                           
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.421] GPU3 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.804] GPU0 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.839] GPU2 DAG generated in 8.88 seconds (4702206kb)                                                                                           
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:46.839] GPU2 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.092] GPU6 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.215] source/sp_workers/cuda_gpu.cpp:cuda_get_num_devices():73: A cuda runtime error occured: no CUDA-capable device is detected               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.216] Shutting down threads                                                                                                                     
│[2021-10-12 11:43:48][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.216] Stratum thread exited                                                                                                                     
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.322] GPU1 DAG generated in 9.37 seconds (4702206kb)                                                                                           
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.322] GPU1 XIntensity set to 352                                                                                                               
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.322] GPU1 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.537] GPU5 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:47.730] GPU4 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.139] GPU3 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.139] GPU3 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.217] GPU0 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.378] GPU2 Dag buffer verified ok!                                                                                                             
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.378] GPU2 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:48.506] GPU6 thread exited                                                                                                                       
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]:      0m [2021-10-12 11:43:51.216] Exiting                                                                                                                                   
│[2021-10-12 11:43:53][info][miner/0]: Miner exited code:-1                                                                             

Solutions?
jr. member
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Only with core-lock 1.10 and newer will be as fast as 1.09. What i dont like in 1.09 - high cpu usage.

Core lock? Increase the Temp limit so the cards don't trottle.
Nope. Temperatures are around 50c, running trex for almost one year with same settings, if i run tbm 1.09 or older, hashrate is a little bit higher compared to trex. Now, exit 1.09 and run any newer versions - you have about 15-20 hashes less without touching anything. But as i showed before, gpu clocks are jumping like crazy. Usually i keep them ~1450 for 3060 ti and 3070, limited by tdp and they are in 1400-1500 range with 1.09 or older. With newer versions, gpu clock start jumping from 1400 to 1800 and hashrates is lower, specially when clocks are aroung 1700-1800. If i lock gpus core clock with nvidia-smi, then everything is fine again and hashrate is same as 1.09 and a little bit higher compared to trex. I'll make new screenshots later again if you want. I still run one 3060 for tests with newest version with core-lock and it is fine, and one more with 3 gpus with 1.09 --xintensity 64. because it is slower with any newer version. Your miner does not support core-locking and i dont like to lock cores by hand for every gpu in that rig (3060 rev 1, 3060 ti, 3070).
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