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Quote from: aoluain on July 22, 2024, 02:15:07 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 21, 2024, 06:49:47 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 20, 2024, 06:14:17 AM

Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

That didn't happen though and it probably never will thanks to Alcaraz screwing Djokovic again and again. Also, total number of grand slams isn't the only way to say who the GOAT is. It's a highly subjective matter which is why it's best to call all 3 of them the GOATs.

Quote from: aoluain on July 21, 2024, 02:36:58 AM

One of those GOATS - Nadal is in the final of Bastad to meet first time finalist
Borges. Nadal also cancelled his doubles match with Ruud.

He is the clay court master for a reason. Excited for this final and to see him play in the Olympics on his turf soon.

Quote from: bitbollo on July 21, 2024, 01:58:23 PM

Today Nadal was pretty far away from "Nadal" the player that we all know... Borges without doing nothing exceptionnal has achieved a great result (and without this player is something that can tell one day to nephews ...). The match was a kind of sad because I think anyone was expecting a more aggresive Spaniard... the N1 is another player...

Berrettini continue the actual tradition ( Roll Eyes

) of italian players that are doing really well. Halys wasn't the top opponent for him...no surprises here.

Yea I watched the match on and off, Nadal couldnt even make a set, the final score says a lot -
6-3, 6-2. He looked like he was lacking energy, especially towards the end of the second set.
I didnt bet on the final but I made some Satoshis on a few of Borges' matches.

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on July 21, 2024, 07:04:27 AM

I was reading the news that Berrettini is back to winning and is returning to excellent levels. He won the ATP 250 tournament in Gstaad. Of course, we are talking about a much smaller tournament than all the other big stages but in any case this will allow him to return. At the moment he is 82nd. in the rankings, but with this result he will rise to 50th place from Monday.

Great to see Mateo back to winning ways, (Bitbollo is happy!!). Again I didnt bet on the final
against Halys, it was an easy win.
I did however lose Satoshi's on Berrettini against Felix AA and . . . Tsitsipas. I bet on both
matches to go over 2.5 sets but neither could challenge Mateo that much.

I was also loosly following the WTA tournament over at Palermo, I had a bet earlty on for
the defending champion Zheng which was good. She won the final again beating Muchova.

there will be a long rehabilitation process that he will have to do to get back to competing like he used to, obviously reaching the big names in the rankings will be very hard if not impossible but in my opinion he could really be able to stay in the top 10 let's remember that he challenged and lost winbledon only because of Novak Djokovic can therefore easily be there in the lead competing with the greats

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 21, 2024, 06:49:47 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 20, 2024, 06:14:17 AM

Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

That didn't happen though and it probably never will thanks to Alcaraz screwing Djokovic again and again. Also, total number of grand slams isn't the only way to say who the GOAT is. It's a highly subjective matter which is why it's best to call all 3 of them the GOATs.

Quote from: aoluain on July 21, 2024, 02:36:58 AM

One of those GOATS - Nadal is in the final of Bastad to meet first time finalist
Borges. Nadal also cancelled his doubles match with Ruud.

He is the clay court master for a reason. Excited for this final and to see him play in the Olympics on his turf soon.

Quote from: bitbollo on July 21, 2024, 01:58:23 PM

Today Nadal was pretty far away from "Nadal" the player that we all know... Borges without doing nothing exceptionnal has achieved a great result (and without this player is something that can tell one day to nephews ...). The match was a kind of sad because I think anyone was expecting a more aggresive Spaniard... the N1 is another player...

Berrettini continue the actual tradition ( Roll Eyes

) of italian players that are doing really well. Halys wasn't the top opponent for him...no surprises here.

Yea I watched the match on and off, Nadal couldnt even make a set, the final score says a lot -
6-3, 6-2. He looked like he was lacking energy, especially towards the end of the second set.
I didnt bet on the final but I made some Satoshis on a few of Borges' matches.

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on July 21, 2024, 07:04:27 AM

I was reading the news that Berrettini is back to winning and is returning to excellent levels. He won the ATP 250 tournament in Gstaad. Of course, we are talking about a much smaller tournament than all the other big stages but in any case this will allow him to return. At the moment he is 82nd. in the rankings, but with this result he will rise to 50th place from Monday.

Great to see Mateo back to winning ways, (Bitbollo is happy!!). Again I didnt bet on the final
against Halys, it was an easy win.
I did however lose Satoshi's on Berrettini against Felix AA and . . . Tsitsipas. I bet on both
matches to go over 2.5 sets but neither could challenge Mateo that much.

I was also loosly following the WTA tournament over at Palermo, I had a bet earlty on for
the defending champion Zheng which was good. She won the final again beating Muchova.

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Today Nadal was pretty far away from "Nadal" the player that we all know... Borges without doing nothing exceptionnal has achieved a great result (and without this player is something that can tell one day to nephews ...). The match was a kind of sad because I think anyone was expecting a more aggresive Spaniard... the N1 is another player...

Berrettini continue the actual tradition ( Roll Eyes

) of italian players that are doing really well. Halys wasn't the top opponent for him...no surprises here.

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Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on July 21, 2024, 07:04:27 AM

I was reading the news that Berrettini is back to winning and is returning to excellent levels. He won the ATP 250 tournament in Gstaad. Of course, we are talking about a much smaller tournament than all the other big stages but in any case this will allow him to return. At the moment he is 82nd. in the rankings, but with this result he will rise to 50th place from Monday.

He made a pretty good comeback this year after having to rest for a long time due to injury. If I'm not mistaken, previously he also made it to the final at the same tournament level, only this time he managed to become champion. It is true that this is a tournament level that can be said to be ordinary, but it is important for him who has been knocked out of the top 100 to be able to return to the top 100 which can provide him with many benefits.

Has anyone watched Zverev vs Fils?, the first set looks like it will belong to Fils who is already ahead but I am still quite confident that the home player can come back to be champion considering he is very good this year, and Zverev's performance at the tournament dispelled reports that he would miss the Paris Olympics due to injury.

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I was reading the news that Berrettini is back to winning and is returning to excellent levels. He won the ATP 250 tournament in Gstaad. Of course, we are talking about a much smaller tournament than all the other big stages but in any case this will allow him to return. At the moment he is 82nd. in the rankings, but with this result he will rise to 50th place from Monday.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 20, 2024, 06:14:17 AM

Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

That didn't happen though and it probably never will thanks to Alcaraz screwing Djokovic again and again. Also, total number of grand slams isn't the only way to say who the GOAT is. It's a highly subjective matter which is why it's best to call all 3 of them the GOATs.

Quote from: aoluain on July 21, 2024, 02:36:58 AM

One of those GOATS - Nadal is in the final of Bastad to meet first time finalist
Borges. Nadal also cancelled his doubles match with Ruud.

He is the clay court master for a reason. Excited for this final and to see him play in the Olympics on his turf soon.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 20, 2024, 06:14:17 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 15, 2024, 08:51:40 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 15, 2024, 12:35:52 AM

However, I would still say that Djokovic is the best, he has had lot of success so far, decline in performance is very normal because his age also affects him, but being runner-up is not bad thing either.

There is no single GOAT in tennis. There are multiple like Djokovic, Fed, Nadal etc. It was amazing to see Djokovic reach the final though right after his knee surgery.

Yes, there are many great tennis players, but isn't it clear that Djokovic has had all his success so far and Djokovic is also one of the tennis players that I think is the most favorite.
All the tennis players you mentioned are the best but I have different assumption depending on Djokovic because I admire his confidence and playing quality which is still quite good even at his current age.
Even though the final only made him runner-up, I very happy about all this, on the other hand Alcaraz also has lot of respect for Djokovic which indirectly made everyone happy with the final match few days ago.
Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

The 2024 season is gradually becoming more difficult for Djokovic than ever. The Serbian tennis player has yet to win any title this year. Djokovic was very close to winning the Wimbledon championship when entering the final. Unfortunately, this player lost to Carlos Alcaraz. During his career, he won every title but lacked the Olympic gold medal. If he wins, it will be a big boost for Djokovic before the 2024 US Open. It will be interesting to see Djokovic face Alcaraz, or Sinner, in Paris and see how the Serbian does.

Not having a coach is seriously affecting Novak Djokovic. With outstanding progress recently, Alcaraz and Sinner are surpassing Djokovic to become the number one candidate in every tournament they attend. At the age of 37, Djokovic is still playing at the highest level which is admirable. But if the current situation without a coach continues, it will be even more difficult for Djokovic. Therefore, Djokovic has little chance of regaining Jannier Sinner's ATP number one position, and Djokovic is even at risk of losing third place to Carlos Alcaraz.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on July 20, 2024, 06:14:17 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on July 15, 2024, 08:51:40 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 15, 2024, 12:35:52 AM

However, I would still say that Djokovic is the best, he has had lot of success so far, decline in performance is very normal because his age also affects him, but being runner-up is not bad thing either.

There is no single GOAT in tennis. There are multiple like Djokovic, Fed, Nadal etc. It was amazing to see Djokovic reach the final though right after his knee surgery.

Yes, there are many great tennis players, but isn't it clear that Djokovic has had all his success so far and Djokovic is also one of the tennis players that I think is the most favorite.
All the tennis players you mentioned are the best but I have different assumption depending on Djokovic because I admire his confidence and playing quality which is still quite good even at his current age.
Even though the final only made him runner-up, I very happy about all this, on the other hand Alcaraz also has lot of respect for Djokovic which indirectly made everyone happy with the final match few days ago.
Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

We had the discussion about who was the one GOAT and most people agree
that Federer holds that title but what is remarkable is the timeframe of having
3 outstanding players dominate the sport over the same length of time. Others
would argue for each of the 3 being the GOAT based on various stats.

For instance between the 3:

Overall titles: 1st Federer 111 / 2nd Nadal 103 / 3rd Djokovic 99

Singles titles: 1st Federer 103 / 2nd Djokovic 98 / 3rd Nadal 93

Grand Slams: 1st Djokovic 24 / 2nd Nadal 22 / 3rd Federer 20

One of those GOATS - Nadal is in the final of Bastad to meet first time finalist
Borges. Nadal also cancelled his doubles match with Ruud.

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 15, 2024, 08:51:40 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 15, 2024, 12:35:52 AM

However, I would still say that Djokovic is the best, he has had lot of success so far, decline in performance is very normal because his age also affects him, but being runner-up is not bad thing either.

There is no single GOAT in tennis. There are multiple like Djokovic, Fed, Nadal etc. It was amazing to see Djokovic reach the final though right after his knee surgery.

Yes, there are many great tennis players, but isn't it clear that Djokovic has had all his success so far and Djokovic is also one of the tennis players that I think is the most favorite.
All the tennis players you mentioned are the best but I have different assumption depending on Djokovic because I admire his confidence and playing quality which is still quite good even at his current age.
Even though the final only made him runner-up, I very happy about all this, on the other hand Alcaraz also has lot of respect for Djokovic which indirectly made everyone happy with the final match few days ago.
Moreover, Djokovic has also won 24 grand slam titles, and 7 of them were at Wimbledon, if the final is Djokovic victory then we could see him truly equal Roger Federer record.

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Yes I remember spotting Tom Cruise at Wimbledon this year.

Couple of interesting matches today on the ATP, the two most important IMO both
involve Nadal!

Bastad Sweden:

Nadal v Ajdukovic in one of the semi finals
Nadal/Ruud v Lud/Matos (3rd seeds) in one of the semi finals.

I'm going to back Rafa to win in some way in his singles match, trying to figure
if he will do it in 2 or 3 sets?

Hamburg:

Zverev v Martinez in one of the semi finals, He's top seed and I think he can go all
the way.

Gstaad Switzerland:

Tsitsipas v Berrettini - has the make up to be a great match, I'm this goes all the way,
Tsitsioas should win this with a atruggle.

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Quote from: aoluain on July 18, 2024, 12:45:02 PM

That is unreal earning, he is set to become the top earner of the game of all time I would imagine.

No doubt he is already a tennis star and will grow both in terms of performances, grand slams and in finances too Wink

By the way, this man was also witness in the crowd at the Wimbledon finals and he is well known in his own field.

A man who need no words, he's Tom Cruise !!!

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Quote from: Haunebu on July 17, 2024, 10:10:21 AM

Quote from: virasog on July 17, 2024, 08:19:48 AM

I do not think that Djokovic would be able to get another major title unless Spanish play Carlos Alcaraz is there in the contest. Novak Djokovic is 37 years old and you need to have fresh blood in order to compete in tennis especially if you're opponent is Alcaraz.

Nah. I feel that he will win a few more big titles at least before retiring officially though since his last win was not long ago(US Open 2023). I don't think he will win another grand slam though primarily thanks to Sinner and Alcaraz.

I cant see it, with how strong Alcaraz is and how talented both Alcaraz and Sinner are they are building
their shot making, strength and fitness and mental ability, Djokovic is in maintenance mode and some
repair work from injuries and that will only increase, I would be very surprised if he does.

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Quote from: virasog on July 17, 2024, 08:19:48 AM

I cannot say if Alcaraz will win most grand slams in coming years but he is the highest paying tennis player aleady. His estimated earnigs are around $45 million per annum.

Well deserved. Those figures are crazy to think about, but what's even crazier is the fact that the final between Djokovic and Alcaraz charged the most expensive tickets in sports history.

That is unreal earning, he is set to become the top earner of the game of all time I would imagine.

Hamburg

Zverev under pressure a little bit ATM against Gaston, he lost the first set but has broken Gaston in the second.
top seed should be getting to the final.

Swedish Open

Nadal through to the Quarter finals, I was going to bet on a Nadal win @ 1.53 but was unsure . . .

Ruud baten by Montiero today, 6-3, 6-3 - big upset

Both Nadal and Ruud are in the Doubles semi final though!

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Quote from: virasog on July 17, 2024, 08:19:48 AM

I do not think that Djokovic would be able to get another major title unless Spanish play Carlos Alcaraz is there in the contest. Novak Djokovic is 37 years old and you need to have fresh blood in order to compete in tennis especially if you're opponent is Alcaraz.

Nah. I feel that he will win a few more big titles at least before retiring officially though since his last win was not long ago(US Open 2023). I don't think he will win another grand slam though primarily thanks to Sinner and Alcaraz.

Quote from: virasog on July 17, 2024, 08:19:48 AM

I cannot say if Alcaraz will win most grand slams in coming years but he is the highest paying tennis player aleady. His estimated earnigs are around $45 million per annum.

Well deserved. Those figures are crazy to think about, but what's even crazier is the fact that the final between Djokovic and Alcaraz charged the most expensive tickets in sports history.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 14, 2024, 01:42:03 PM

So nobody would have expected an outright three-set victory, but congratulations to Alcatraz for defending their title from last year. Djokovic also missed out on his 25th major title, but he still has a chance here and there.

I do not think that Djokovic would be able to get another major title unless Spanish play Carlos Alcaraz is there in the contest. Novak Djokovic is 37 years old and you need to have fresh blood in order to compete in tennis especially if you're opponent is Alcaraz.

Quote from: bitgolden on July 16, 2024, 12:55:00 AM

This means that he could potentially win more grand slams than anyone in history, not because he is better than anyone in history, but he is both great and also have no rivals, which makes it easier for him to keep winning all the time.

I cannot say if Alcaraz will win most grand slams in coming years but he is the highest paying tennis player aleady. His estimated earnigs are around $45 million per annum.

Carlos Alcaraz dethrones Novak Djokovic as the highest-paid tennis star

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Quote from: serveria.com on July 16, 2024, 05:21:18 AM

~snip~
I actually predicted the dawn of Djokovic this season. Too lazy to look for my older posts to prove it. Tongue

But yeah, I was even surprised to see 37yo Serb in the final. He got an easy draw: Rune is not in his best condition, Musetti was clearly mentally not ready to face Nole and I'm not even mentioning the first two rounds... So in a way, he should be happy he was able to reach another GS final.

P.S. I wonder if they're checking if he's clean. Did you notice him taking that pill in the 3rd set? Roll Eyes

The joker is always in a good place in my mind. He is really a fantastic player, maybe a bit controversial?, but that's based on the Australian media.

I don't know, based on the tennis itself, he is a solid player and I think he should win a couple of more titles before he retires.

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 14, 2024, 04:25:28 PM

personally I was expecting 5 sets like last year but Alcaraz was pretty effective in all games

at this point, it is natural that Djoko-era is going to the end... even if there are just few players able to challenge the Spaniard, this could be pretty interesting for gamblers and a potential advantage for live bets.

I actually predicted the dawn of Djokovic this season. Too lazy to look for my older posts to prove it. Tongue

But yeah, I was even surprised to see 37yo Serb in the final. He got an easy draw: Rune is not in his best condition, Musetti was clearly mentally not ready to face Nole and I'm not even mentioning the first two rounds... So in a way, he should be happy he was able to reach another GS final.

P.S. I wonder if they're checking if he's clean. Did you notice him taking that pill in the 3rd set? Roll Eyes

Ah I'd say everyone is checked these days 🤔

I agree with you serveria, I cant see him winning any more grand slams, the injuries
are starting for him.

Stan Wawrinka was playing in the Swiss open yesterday and got beaten by Lukas
Klein, its just not happening for the old guard, another example for Stan.

So a couple of tournaments on the go this week:
Swiss Open - Tsitsipas seeded 1

Hamburg European Open - Zverev seeded 1

Sweden Open - Rublev seeded 1 - Rublev has been suffering of late and will have
Ruud to deal with at some stage. Nadal also in the mix here and plays Norrie next.
Ruud/Nadal are also in the Quarter finals of the doubles..

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Quote from: bitbollo on July 14, 2024, 04:25:28 PM

personally I was expecting 5 sets like last year but Alcaraz was pretty effective in all games

at this point, it is natural that Djoko-era is going to the end... even if there are just few players able to challenge the Spaniard, this could be pretty interesting for gamblers and a potential advantage for live bets.

I actually predicted the dawn of Djokovic this season. Too lazy to look for my older posts to prove it. Tongue

But yeah, I was even surprised to see 37yo Serb in the final. He got an easy draw: Rune is not in his best condition, Musetti was clearly mentally not ready to face Nole and I'm not even mentioning the first two rounds... So in a way, he should be happy he was able to reach another GS final.

P.S. I wonder if they're checking if he's clean. Did you notice him taking that pill in the 3rd set? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: bitgolden on July 16, 2024, 12:55:00 AM

The scarier thing about Alcazar is that it looks like he doesn't really have any opponent, not a major one. All the people we have seen so far, like Federer was alone for a brief moment before Nadal showed up, and then when Djokovic showed up they had the other two a bit, Nadal for sure, Djokovic stayed alone for just a brief moment, not many years. Whereas, we are looking Alcazar and he doesn't have any big opponents for now, maybe in the future there will be someone better, but not right now.

This means that he could potentially win more grand slams than anyone in history, not because he is better than anyone in history, but he is both great and also have no rivals, which makes it easier for him to keep winning all the time.

Sinner could be the only one in the short term who could post a threat to Alcaraz but he needs to
add something to his game, I dont know what that is because he has already got a quite good game.

But yea Alcaraz does look like he can hoover up a lot of GS going forward. He has 2 out of 3 so far
with the US open up next later in the year. Hard court same as the AO where he was beaten in
the quarter final by Zverev and Sinner took the title.

We also need to leave room for a debate on how some other hopefulls progress, players like Shelton
and Rune, maybe there is time for them to make a claim on top spots and challenge Sinner and Alcaraz
on a regular basis - medium to long term.

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The scarier thing about Alcazar is that it looks like he doesn't really have any opponent, not a major one. All the people we have seen so far, like Federer was alone for a brief moment before Nadal showed up, and then when Djokovic showed up they had the other two a bit, Nadal for sure, Djokovic stayed alone for just a brief moment, not many years. Whereas, we are looking Alcazar and he doesn't have any big opponents for now, maybe in the future there will be someone better, but not right now.

This means that he could potentially win more grand slams than anyone in history, not because he is better than anyone in history, but he is both great and also have no rivals, which makes it easier for him to keep winning all the time.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on July 14, 2024, 01:42:03 PM

So nobody would have expected an outright three-set victory, but congratulations to Alcatraz for defending their title from last year. Djokovic also missed out on his 25th major title, but he still has a chance here and there.

I did expect Alcaraz to win, but it watching him decimate the great man across 3 sets was seriously something else. Djokovic commited so many unforced errors which swung the momentum in Alcaraz's favor who was on fire.

Quote from: Hirose UK on July 15, 2024, 12:35:52 AM

However, I would still say that Djokovic is the best, he has had lot of success so far, decline in performance is very normal because his age also affects him, but being runner-up is not bad thing either.

There is no single GOAT in tennis. There are multiple like Djokovic, Fed, Nadal etc. It was amazing to see Djokovic reach the final though right after his knee surgery.

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