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thank god Khachanov was able to win the fifth set with no big troubles, i got scared when he lost the fourth set, anyways, there was another surprise to day with Kyrgios beating Medvedev with three sets to one, after the first 2 sets, Kyrgios was serving comfortably, Medvedev should have pushed him more and put pressure on his serve but he didn't and Kyrgios picked up confidence to win most of his games easily.

No not sure either. I posted earlier in the thread that the H2H between these two before
the match was 3-1 to Kyrgios and obviously extends that lead now. I wanted to bet on that
match but didnt know which way to go.

Nadal back to No.1 spot....I didnt realise that, its remarkable. I think he has a great
chance to take this title.

Who is his main challenger left in the tournament?

Alcaraz?
Krygios?

These are the only 2 which I can see realistically able to get past him?

not really sure, but interesting question, IMO he was not no.1 cappacity, and that could be seen throughout this year, and especially at season beginning, when he needed to win one small tournament to overcome Djokovic and failed multiple times

Nadal is back to no.1, at 36 years, what do you think about his chances to win this GS as well? 

Medvedev's defeat was unexpected, right?
Despite Kyrgios bad attitude there is no denying that he is a talented player if he is in good form then it is not easy for top players to beat him.

I saw a match between L. Samsonova vs A. Tomljanovic the first set was very tight and Tomljanovic was able to get the first set and the second set all quite different and Tomljanovic easier to finish this second set and win the match to advance to the quarterfinals.

Kyrgios managed to beat medvedev for the second time on a row and i did not expect that on a hard court, the first set was really tight and kyrgios won it  on the back and forth tiebreak, medvedev managed only to win the second one and then it was a total domination from kyrgios, medvedev must be disapointed with this loss because he will not be able to defend his title.

It is Kyrgios to win the match and one of the top player have gone out. Medvedev made a recovery in the second set, but Kyrgios was quite strong and dominant showing with 20 aces, 52 winners which constitute 75% of his first serve. With this win Kyrgios move to the quarter final and there he's to play against Khachanov, who have reached US Open quarter final for the first time.

Khachanov have took lead of the 5th set and won the match 4-6 6-3 6-1 4-6 6-3. PCB kept the match alive till the last set. That was really good comeback in the fourth set, but he wasn't able to keep it going in the final set.

On the much expected match between Medvedev and Kyrgios, the first set itself started on fire. Both are really competing and what a rally to watch. Consecutive points scored have reached 7¹³-6¹¹ for Kyrgios to win the first set.

Jannik Sinner is a very talented player, he was able to beat Alcaraz recently in Croatia on clay, and Alcaraz was doing good at the time, I don't expect a lot from him on hard court, Ivashka is his next opponent, and if he wins he'd face Cilic or Alcaraz, I want to see another match between Alcaraz and Sinner, it will be time for revenge.

What's up with PCB? Was he really sick or just pretended to break Khachanov's momentum?
Whatever it was, he did break the momentum and is now back in fourth set.

Khachanov +1.5 set handicap was the play here @ 1.88x

Busta broke Khachanov in the fourth as I was typing this lmao He wad pretending to be sick for sure. Sore loser

After losing the first set, Khachanov have won the third set
and  keeps him on the lead. Careno Busta is playing well and finding the right time to take a break through. So, we can't get into conclusion. Winning the third set keeps him on the lead and developed pressure on Careno Busta, fourth set will probably give the result of the match.

Khachanov to win is @1.5 right now against carreno Busta, if he loses, I'm retiring betting on tennis after I lost on Shapovalov and de minaur, I belive in khachanov's chances to win, I made a bet on him before the match, and I'm thinking about betting again on him live.

Cilic and Berdych were regular top 10 players in the world in the past. I sometimes hear from Cilic that he participates in tournaments and has some successes, but Berdych seems to have completely disappeared from the radar. Berdych once placed 5th in the world but never won a Grand Slam. Cilic managed to do that once, and I think Cilic has won more titles overall than Berdych. So at least Cilic was a more successful player than Berdych. Berdych was a great talent but had too many injuries.

Why do you think Cilic is better than Berdych for sure? I would put them into the same category and the stats support that. Whatever relevant statistics you use, it says that they are pretty even. Berdych has a better win to loss ratio and was highest rank 4. Cilic was highest rank 3. They are 6 to 6 against each other. Cilic has won a few more tournaments and also played in all semi-finals of all GS.
It is hard to compare as you said but also hard to tell who belongs into which category right after Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. If you compare it when you take the best game someone ever played, lots of them could be the world's best tennis player, but that is the difference. The ability to permanently play your best for years and years. This doesn't apply to any other player so far. I remember how hard Murray tried. He lost 8! GS finals, 6 against Djokovic and 2 against Federer. Federer lost all of his finals against Nadal and Djokovic and then 1 against Del Potro.

I think that a lot of these younger great players would at one point also be happy if they don't have to play against Djokovic and Nadal anymore. It is certainly an honor for them to do so, but when your change is close to zero to ever win a final against them, it's not so much fun anymore I guess. Poor guys who played exactly at the time when the three guys played. Even if you could have become number 1 during any era of tennis even for just a week, then this was not the time. I think Medvedev was number 1 for a bit but that has been it for the last 17/18 years...

TBH, you can easily find ten players that were part of top10 in Nadal, Federer, Djokovic era, with results against them similar to Cilic, it was simply not comparable, but I also think that Cilic is good and all round player, he had reached SF on all GS, which is kind of achievement in previous ten years

yeah, he is not Murray or Del Porto quality, but above Berdych and similar players for sure, and he is still good for new generation, which proves that young generation stars are far from top quality, that Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, and even Murray were

I think Cilic will always be one hit grandslam wonder. Yes, he is talented and seems to have a good form these last couple of months but there are too many young good players right now and Nadal/Djokovic are always still here for some more years. From 2019 to 2021, his best result on a grand slam was the 4th round.

Erm no, he just had a run during that tournament back then and the others did not. Djokovic lost against Nishikori, Nadal was injured and Cilic did manage to beat Federer. The reason he didn't win any more Grand Slams are the stats against the "big three" and because he didn't have enough balance in this game as it was all about the serve and the strong players got used to it.

Stats against the "big three":

Nadal - Cilic: 7 : 2 (including one retreat by Nadal)

Djokovic - Cilic: 18 : 2

Federer - Cilic: 10 : 1

With those stats you can still be one of the best in the world as per the ATP list, but it is no surpriser that you didn't win tons of GS titles.

Alex de Minaur is quite inconsistent. So, I actually do not trust him with anything right now.
He might have the advantage over his opponent but he can still lose. It is hard to predict anything when a player is this much inconsistent.
So, I am going to say that Alex is not the favorites


Čilić is a player who has been playing quite consistently in recent times. So, it is rather easy to predict how he is going to perform.
But it is sad to say that he could have done a lot more with his talent. He should have had more success in his career.
And he certainly should have been a lot more consistent and gotten better results in some certain matches. 
Right now I think he actually has a good chance of beating Alcaraz. But time will tell what happens.

Should be an interesting match indeed and the bookies see Medvedev at the favorite with an odd of about 1.5. Kygrios to win is @2.5. I placed a bet on Kyrgios +1.5 sets but I think he will win the match; in these kind of matches he is always more motivated to show how good he can play.

Cilic is one of the best tennis players in the world, because very few tennis players managed to win the GS in the years when the "big three" of world tennis played.
However, unfortunately, considering his talent and tennis quality, he failed to do even more and win a few more GS.
His biggest problem was always his mental strength and mental stability, and he often lost the matches he had to win.
If he keeps his inner demons under control and plays a perfect match, then he has a good chance of beating Alcaraz.

We go into the business end of the tournament and its nice to see Norrie and Sinner
through so far.

Very interesting match up today, Medvedev v Krygios, the last time these two met in
Canada Krygios won and wins H2H Kyrgios is 3-1but today Medvedev is favourite.

I would love to do a handicap bet on Nick....but Daniil is in very fine form currently.