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Quote from: btc_angela on May 14, 2021, 07:34:02 AM

Nadal and Zverev ongoing right now, Nadal takes the first set 6-3.

But Zverev is fighting on the second set and so far they are holding serve. Zverev need to win the second set to at least extend it to the decider. So let's see, for sure this second set with be very good and could go into a tie breaker.

The second set was very close. Zverev just had break points when nadal served for the match but he could not use them sadly. I would have really liked to see a third set in this match. So the revenge of nadal against zverev was successful after he got eliminated by him in his home tournament in madrid. The upcoming match of djokovic vs tsitsipas should also be a very close one where i don't really know who will advance into the next round. In the other game rublev should be the favorite against sonego but the italian played a great match yesterday and managed to eliminate Thiem which was also a big surprise to me.

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Nadal and Zverev ongoing right now, Nadal takes the first set 6-3.

But Zverev is fighting on the second set and so far they are holding serve. Zverev need to win the second set to at least extend it to the decider. So let's see, for sure this second set with be very good and could go into a tie breaker.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 14, 2021, 02:46:58 AM

Quote from: Jating on May 14, 2021, 02:27:11 AM

Unfortunately, Nadal win, but failed to cover 2-0 set bet. Shapovalov really came in the first set, breaking Nadal early. Nadal seems to be off in the first set, but once he heated up he won.

In the third set, Shapavalov had 1 x match point if I'm not mistaken, unfortunately he was not strong enough to finish it, during the tie break Shapavalov made many error that gave Nadal enough points to finish the match, young players need a strong mentality to be able to beat the big 3.
N. Djokovic vs S. Tsitsipas, what is the predictions?
Tsitsipas gave a tough fight for Djokovic at FO last year, maybe he already had the right strategy to beat Djokovic, even though he lost this match it would be more likely to last 3 sets.

Yes, N. Djokovic vs S. Tsitsipas will likely go to 3 sets and see tie breaker games.

Tsitsipas has improved a lot in clay court since last year, so it's going to be close. Djokovic though is a well rounder players and it's hard to see him having off-night except maybe for some outburst in this game if he see that he is not getting some calls on his part. So let's give Tsitsipas a chance here.

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Quote from: Jating on May 14, 2021, 02:27:11 AM

Unfortunately, Nadal win, but failed to cover 2-0 set bet. Shapovalov really came in the first set, breaking Nadal early. Nadal seems to be off in the first set, but once he heated up he won.

In the third set, Shapavalov had 1 x match point if I'm not mistaken, unfortunately he was not strong enough to finish it, during the tie break Shapavalov made many error that gave Nadal enough points to finish the match, young players need a strong mentality to be able to beat the big 3.
N. Djokovic vs S. Tsitsipas, what is the predictions?
Tsitsipas gave a tough fight for Djokovic at FO last year, maybe he already had the right strategy to beat Djokovic, even though he lost this match it would be more likely to last 3 sets.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on May 13, 2021, 07:49:17 AM

Quote from: Jating on May 13, 2021, 06:18:17 AM

I also think that Tsitisipas will win against Berrettini. Probably close by I think Tsitsipas will cover 2-0 spread here and so is Zverev vs Ken Nishikori.

You were right with tsitsipas winning 2-0 in sets against berrettini and to be honest i would not ave predicted that as berrettini performed so well in the last clay tournament in madrid where he reached the final against zverev. Good prediction from you. The upcoming matches of today should be pretty safe wins for nadal (vs. shapovalov), Zverev (vs. Nishikori) and Thiem (vs. Sonego). The match between bautista augut vs rublew is by far the closest one of this day at least on paper. For me rublev is the slight favorite here.

Tsitsipas is more mentally prepared and I would is just above Berrettini that's why I predicted a 2-0 sweep.

Unfortunately, Nadal win, but failed to cover 2-0 set bet. Shapovalov really came in the first set, breaking Nadal early. Nadal seems to be off in the first set, but once he heated up he won. But he can't play like this against Zverev tonight. You were right on the Rublev vs Bautista Agut. Thiem lost though to Sonego in 3 sets.

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^^, Nadal has difficulty against Jannik Sinner and then he almost lost to Shapovalov today, very strange of him. So it's a good bet for over 21.5 and the match going to 3 sets.

Karatsev's run is also over, he was defeated by Opelka and Thiem is out, (he is not doing good as well) to Sonego in 3 sets with 2 tie breaks.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 13, 2021, 07:37:54 PM

Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 03:43:40 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 13, 2021, 03:24:15 PM

Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

It also means IMO that the younger generation are definitely closing the gap to the
top tier players and are becoming better equiped to compete closely with them,

it also makes for great matches!

The gap is closer for sure but I am thinking it is more because big 3 are not that good anymore than rest of the pack playing better. Nadal in his top form would still win all clay tournaments this season.

As you say the matches are more interesting and younger generation now believes they can win against them which is very important. In previous years I had a feeling most players would enter matches against Nadal and Djoko hoping they will catch few games and then the match is already lost before first point is played.

...or treat the match as gaining experience.
Now players like Shapovalov today are confident they can at least win a set,
Next up for Nadal is Zverev he is going to at least loose a set to the German
in this match. Will this querter final match up be a repeat of Madrid?
Im not betting on this one TBH, I recon Zverev again though.

Lost on Nadal, I have him to win 2 nil against Shapovalov, but damn, Dennis was slow to stealing that game from Nadal. Prime for prime though, I don't think the next gen can match Nadal.

So interesting match, Zverev vs Nadal - probably will go down to 3 sets Zverev
Djokovic vs Tsitsipas - same 3 sets but I'm biased so I reckon Tsitsipas will win.

Nadal not playing so good on clay this season we might see a new rollan garros champion this year.Far from best Nadal play and tommorows line is 21.5 games so that would be easy win tommorow for over

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Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 03:43:40 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 13, 2021, 03:24:15 PM

Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

It also means IMO that the younger generation are definitely closing the gap to the
top tier players and are becoming better equiped to compete closely with them,

it also makes for great matches!

The gap is closer for sure but I am thinking it is more because big 3 are not that good anymore than rest of the pack playing better. Nadal in his top form would still win all clay tournaments this season.

As you say the matches are more interesting and younger generation now believes they can win against them which is very important. In previous years I had a feeling most players would enter matches against Nadal and Djoko hoping they will catch few games and then the match is already lost before first point is played.

...or treat the match as gaining experience.
Now players like Shapovalov today are confident they can at least win a set,
Next up for Nadal is Zverev he is going to at least loose a set to the German
in this match. Will this querter final match up be a repeat of Madrid?
Im not betting on this one TBH, I recon Zverev again though.

Lost on Nadal, I have him to win 2 nil against Shapovalov, but damn, Dennis was slow to stealing that game from Nadal. Prime for prime though, I don't think the next gen can match Nadal.

So interesting match, Zverev vs Nadal - probably will go down to 3 sets Zverev
Djokovic vs Tsitsipas - same 3 sets but I'm biased so I reckon Tsitsipas will win.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 13, 2021, 03:24:15 PM

Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

It also means IMO that the younger generation are definitely closing the gap to the
top tier players and are becoming better equiped to compete closely with them,

it also makes for great matches!

The gap is closer for sure but I am thinking it is more because big 3 are not that good anymore than rest of the pack playing better. Nadal in his top form would still win all clay tournaments this season.

As you say the matches are more interesting and younger generation now believes they can win against them which is very important. In previous years I had a feeling most players would enter matches against Nadal and Djoko hoping they will catch few games and then the match is already lost before first point is played.

...or treat the match as gaining experience.
Now players like Shapovalov today are confident they can at least win a set,
Next up for Nadal is Zverev he is going to at least loose a set to the German
in this match. Will this querter final match up be a repeat of Madrid?
Im not betting on this one TBH, I recon Zverev again though.

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Quote from: aoluain on May 13, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

It also means IMO that the younger generation are definitely closing the gap to the
top tier players and are becoming better equiped to compete closely with them,

it also makes for great matches!

The gap is closer for sure but I am thinking it is more because big 3 are not that good anymore than rest of the pack playing better. Nadal in his top form would still win all clay tournaments this season.

As you say the matches are more interesting and younger generation now believes they can win against them which is very important. In previous years I had a feeling most players would enter matches against Nadal and Djoko hoping they will catch few games and then the match is already lost before first point is played.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 13, 2021, 09:12:21 AM

Tsitsipas and Djokovic won their games confidently. Nadal is currently behind, but I think he will still win the game. Thiem had a problem in the second set yesterday and then he won the game and I'm looking forward to his game today.

Nadal V Shapovalov - very close with Nadal digging deep to take the third set tie break.

He isnt playing his 100% but as true champions do he finds a way and never gives up.

It also means IMO that the younger generation are definitely closing the gap to the
top tier players and are becoming better equiped to compete closely with them,

it also makes for great matches!

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Tsitsipas and Djokovic won their games confidently. Nadal is currently behind, but I think he will still win the game. Thiem had a problem in the second set yesterday and then he won the game and I'm looking forward to his game today.

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Quote from: Jating on May 13, 2021, 06:18:17 AM

I also think that Tsitisipas will win against Berrettini. Probably close by I think Tsitsipas will cover 2-0 spread here and so is Zverev vs Ken Nishikori.

You were right with tsitsipas winning 2-0 in sets against berrettini and to be honest i would not ave predicted that as berrettini performed so well in the last clay tournament in madrid where he reached the final against zverev. Good prediction from you. The upcoming matches of today should be pretty safe wins for nadal (vs. shapovalov), Zverev (vs. Nishikori) and Thiem (vs. Sonego). The match between bautista augut vs rublew is by far the closest one of this day at least on paper. For me rublev is the slight favorite here.

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Karatsev struggling against, Opelka and I think this could be an upset.

Djokovic already get past Fokina in two, 6-2, 6-1.

I also think that Tsitisipas will win against Berrettini. Probably close by I think Tsitsipas will cover 2-0 spread here and so is Zverev vs Ken Nishikori.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 13, 2021, 05:14:53 AM

Sinner is improving a lot, Nadal even admitting post interview

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“I think Jannik is a very complete player. He's still improving all the time. You can't appreciate the improvement in one day,” Nadal said. “To see the improvements of players, you need to follow them [for many] tournaments in a row. You follow him and you see that his level is higher and higher all the time.”

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nadal-rome-2021-wednesday-reaction

So for now, Sinner is undergoing a lot processes mentality and physically, just give him less than a year and he will make it difficult for the mens tournaments as he will surprise us with big wins.

I agree, we can't forget that Sinner is only 19 years old but he will get there. It's nice to see that the pool of young talents in men's tennis keeps on increasing!

Quote from: TravelMug on May 12, 2021, 09:51:07 PM

Berrettini vs Tsitsipas - this one as well, Berrettini is riding on a momentum from the last tournament, although he lost to Zverev, he is also showing signs to be in the contention here.

Tsitsipas for the win.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 12, 2021, 09:51:07 PM

Rublev vs Bautista Agut - is a tough one to call, both are playing superb tennis.

I would say that Rublev might have the edge in 3.

Quote from: TravelMug on May 12, 2021, 09:51:07 PM

Berrettini vs Tsitsipas - this one as well, Berrettini is riding on a momentum from the last tournament, although he lost to Zverev, he is also showing signs to be in the contention here.

Stefanos Tsitsipas by two.

Quote from: TravelMug on May 12, 2021, 09:51:07 PM

What do you guys say, for those who have watch, Nadal vs Sinner? It looks like Sinner really played well and give Nadal a run for the money.

Sinner is improving a lot, Nadal even admitting post interview

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“I think Jannik is a very complete player. He's still improving all the time. You can't appreciate the improvement in one day,” Nadal said. “To see the improvements of players, you need to follow them [for many] tournaments in a row. You follow him and you see that his level is higher and higher all the time.”

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/nadal-rome-2021-wednesday-reaction

So for now, Sinner is undergoing a lot processes mentality and physically, just give him less than a year and he will make it difficult for the mens tournaments as he will surprise us with big wins.

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Rublev vs Bautista Agut - is a tough one to call, both are playing superb tennis.

Berrettini vs Tsitsipas - this one as well, Berrettini is riding on a momentum from the last tournament, although he lost to Zverev, he is also showing signs to be in the contention here.

What do you guys say, for those who have watch, Nadal vs Sinner? It looks like Sinner really played well and give Nadal a run for the money.

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Quote from: aoluain on May 12, 2021, 02:29:24 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on May 11, 2021, 08:23:09 PM

Anyone betting in this tournament?

I had Berrettini, Bautista-Agut, Djokovic and Shapolapov winning @2.65 and it's good that I got the win, put some decent amount so I have the capital to begin.

@aoluain - yeah, I was surprised at Djokovic getting with the umpire again, it might hurt him in the long run specially games that are important and close.

Im making a few bets on and off depending on what I fancy and betting conservatively.

I also had Berrettini and Djokovic low odds though of course

I have Tsitsipas and Thiem today against Cilic and Fucsovics respectively again low odds.

Its nice to get a winner with high odds especially when betting favourites a lot of the time.

That's good to hear, I usually bet on parlay to make the odds more attractive,

But the games is getting hard to predict as we are now entering the round of 16.

Only safe bet for me is Opelka vs Karatsev, Djokovic vs Fokina (might extend to 3 sets), and then Zverev vs Nishikori.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 11, 2021, 11:30:33 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on May 11, 2021, 05:55:24 AM

Medvedev, Djokovic, Schwartzman and Berrettini will simply win their games today in two sets I think. I'm curious if there will be surprises in Rome, the tournament is well staffed and a training (outlook) for the French open.

Schwartzman lost in straight sets to Felix, no big surprises so far, maybe today when J. Sinner vs R. Nadal and also A. Karatsev vs D. Medvedev match. Could be Sinner beat Nadal and even Medvedev rank higher than Karatsev but since Medvedev isn't player that suit in clay so Karatsev more favourite to win this match, moreover, this year's Karatsev has shown a pretty good performance

Karatsev keeps performing at high levels, even against really good players, he beat Medvedev today and his next opponent is Opelka, and i think Karatsev can beat him and reach the Quater finals, which could be against either Aliassime or Delbonis, i can easily see him reaching the semi final at least, do guys think he can win it ?!

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 11, 2021, 11:30:33 PM

Quote from: Koal-84 on May 11, 2021, 05:55:24 AM

Medvedev, Djokovic, Schwartzman and Berrettini will simply win their games today in two sets I think. I'm curious if there will be surprises in Rome, the tournament is well staffed and a training (outlook) for the French open.

Schwartzman lost in straight sets to Felix, no big surprises so far, maybe today when J. Sinner vs R. Nadal and also A. Karatsev vs D. Medvedev match. Could be Sinner beat Nadal and even Medvedev rank higher than Karatsev but since Medvedev isn't player that suit in clay so Karatsev more favourite to win this match, moreover, this year's Karatsev has shown a pretty good performance

Schwartzman just lost his touch on several tournaments so I'm not surprised by hist lost today.

Yes, that's two good match, Sinner vs Nadal, I don't know but I still thinks that Nadal will win in 2 sets.

For Kasatsev vs Medvedev, still the same, Karatsev is one of the hottest player right now, and I agree, Karatsev is more suited for this clay court and he is the favourite the last time I check. But probably Medvedev will give everything, but Karatsev might win in 3 sets.

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