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Quote from: Jackl87 on May 09, 2021, 12:30:47 PM

I would have never thought that zverev could beat nadal and thiem and move into the final thank god i did not place any bets for those to matches because i would have lost both. Now he is the favorite against berrettini because he managed to beat nadal and thiem but i am in doubt again if zverev is living up to the role of being favourite in the final. The match is pretty open so far in the first set and in the moment it looks like the set will be decided in the tiebreak.

Well he live up for being the favorite as he gave up the first set to Berrettini and then took over the next two games. So yeah, he had beaten the best in this tournament leading up to him winning.

Now he has the potential to go to French Open as second favorite behind Nadal because of the strengths of his showing in Madrid. Of course Nadal will be the favorite, but at least Zverev's name will be in the discussion for the Grand Slam now and trim Nadal's odd.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 09, 2021, 02:48:08 AM

If the predictions come true, at the tournament in Rome we could see very exciting matches between Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams, and between Ashleigh Barty and Aryn Sabalenko, already in the quarterfinals.
Serena will perform for the first time after her shocking defeat at GS in Australia, in a tournament where she has already been a 4-time winner.
Can Serena continue to win tournaments?
It will also be interesting to see the new tennis star Sabalenka after a great success at the tournament in Madrid.

Source: https://www.wtatennis.com/news/2132382/osaka-serena-barty-sabalenka-projected-to-clash-in-rome-draw

I think the time of Serena has come, I don't see her winning anymore tournaments... But never say never in tennis (they said the same for Federer years ago).

Berrettini vs Zverev is a close match: Berrettini won the first set, but Zverev won the second one.

It's over, Zverev won and he has to comeback from 1 set down to win the tournament.

I thought that Berrettini will win after getting the first set. Second was close, just the breaks of the game and converted it early same as the third seed. It could have given me a good win as I have said previously, I have Berrettini to win @11.x, too close.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on May 09, 2021, 02:48:08 AM

If the predictions come true, at the tournament in Rome we could see very exciting matches between Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams, and between Ashleigh Barty and Aryn Sabalenko, already in the quarterfinals.
Serena will perform for the first time after her shocking defeat at GS in Australia, in a tournament where she has already been a 4-time winner.
Can Serena continue to win tournaments?
It will also be interesting to see the new tennis star Sabalenka after a great success at the tournament in Madrid.

Source: https://www.wtatennis.com/news/2132382/osaka-serena-barty-sabalenka-projected-to-clash-in-rome-draw

I think the time of Serena has come, I don't see her winning anymore tournaments... But never say never in tennis (they said the same for Federer years ago).

Berrettini vs Zverev is a close match: Berrettini won the first set, but Zverev won the second one.

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I would have never thought that zverev could beat nadal and thiem and move into the final thank god i did not place any bets for those to matches because i would have lost both. Now he is the favorite against berrettini because he managed to beat nadal and thiem but i am in doubt again if zverev is living up to the role of being favourite in the final. The match is pretty open so far in the first set and in the moment it looks like the set will be decided in the tiebreak.

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Quote from: Jating on May 09, 2021, 05:45:13 AM

It's down to @5.00 right now, so at least there is a swing that Berrettini might have a long shot to beat Zverev in 3 sets in this final.

I can't believe that odds are true. If they are, then the bookies screwed up big time and you can make sure bet. It should be less than 2.5, same as match line. If it is @5 you just place ML on Zverev and this on Beretini and you have made big profit.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 08, 2021, 05:28:17 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 08, 2021, 04:34:31 AM

I think Zverev is riding on that big win against Nadal. So for me it will be Zverev in 3 sets against Thiem.

Not so sure about that. How many times did you see player loosing next match just after winning against one of the big 3? I have seen it it at least several times and I think that is because playing against Nadal on clay takes so much away from you, even more mentally then physically. As I said my money is on Thiem simply because it has tremendous value, I was expecting odds around 1.5-1.6 on Thiem and got @2.4. I just have to place a high stake bet on that. This match is realistically 50:50 at best, no way Zverev can be favorite.

Only thing in Zverev favor today is that Madrid clay is playing almost as hard court due to conditions, if this was Barcelona or Rome I would be even more sure in Thiem.

Should be a great and close match for sure, too bad it is in the afternoon so I will probably not be able to watch it and after writing all this Zverev will take first set 6:1 just to spite me

So Zverev won against Thiem, but I got my prediction wrong on the Ruud vs Berrettini.

But I think Berrettini is a dangerous opponent for Zverev here, yeah I do agree that we might see a tie break in the first set and then going on for 3 sets to settle. And with that said, Zverev for me here, the stake are too high for him to lose in this tournament against Berrettini.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on May 08, 2021, 07:49:36 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on May 08, 2021, 06:19:25 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 08, 2021, 10:20:50 AM

I decided to cut my loses and cashed out my Thiem bets. He is not playing like himself today, almost no winners, just returning the ball to Zverev. Zverev should win this in 2 sets easy.

Good for you mate, I haven't watch the game because it's like 1:00 am here, if I did I would also cash out to cut my losses.

Anyway, I have Berrettini to win against Ruud @2.15 so I got the win.

In the wowen's side, Ash Barty was upset by Sabalenka, first set? 6-0, hope that someone bet for it, usual odds is 100x for that score.

So let's see Zverev vs Berrettini, as I have said, I bet on the outright on Berrettini 11x. So I do hope he pull the second biggest upset in this tournament and win against Zverev.

Current ML odds:

Zverev @1.54
Berrettini @2.44

i am guessing the same, Berrettini can make another surprise and beat Zverev in the final, and i also think it's going to three sets, both of them if they lose the first set they would be more focused on the 2nd, Berrettini to win 2-1 is @5.25 which is high and can happen easily.

It's down to @5.00 right now, so at least there is a swing that Berrettini might have a long shot to beat Zverev in 3 sets in this final.

For the ladies, I was expecting Ash to win the finals, but then again, as someone has mention this clay tend to give us results that is so unexpected, (like Nadal losing to Zverev).

But I'm not putting the plug here, I think Zverev for me is the more complete tennis player and has improved a lot since they last met.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on May 08, 2021, 07:49:36 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on May 08, 2021, 06:19:25 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 08, 2021, 10:20:50 AM

I decided to cut my loses and cashed out my Thiem bets. He is not playing like himself today, almost no winners, just returning the ball to Zverev. Zverev should win this in 2 sets easy.

Good for you mate, I haven't watch the game because it's like 1:00 am here, if I did I would also cash out to cut my losses.

Anyway, I have Berrettini to win against Ruud @2.15 so I got the win.

In the wowen's side, Ash Barty was upset by Sabalenka, first set? 6-0, hope that someone bet for it, usual odds is 100x for that score.

So let's see Zverev vs Berrettini, as I have said, I bet on the outright on Berrettini 11x. So I do hope he pull the second biggest upset in this tournament and win against Zverev.

Current ML odds:

Zverev @1.54
Berrettini @2.44

i am guessing the same, Berrettini can make another surprise and beat Zverev in the final, and i also think it's going to three sets, both of them if they lose the first set they would be more focused on the 2nd, Berrettini to win 2-1 is @5.25 which is high and can happen easily.

@Trofo - Good call to identify that Thiem was not performing, a lot of others
(myself included) would have held on till too late hoping he could pull it out of the fire.

I cant call the final TBH, both players have performed fantastically, I would guess Zverev.

and on the ladies side, what a win by Sabalenka over Barty, even to take the first
set 6-0 is impressive, didnt have a bet on that match but wouldnt have called
Sabalenka to win.

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If the predictions come true, at the tournament in Rome we could see very exciting matches between Naomi Osaka and Serena Williams, and between Ashleigh Barty and Aryn Sabalenko, already in the quarterfinals.
Serena will perform for the first time after her shocking defeat at GS in Australia, in a tournament where she has already been a 4-time winner.
Can Serena continue to win tournaments?
It will also be interesting to see the new tennis star Sabalenka after a great success at the tournament in Madrid.

Source: https://www.wtatennis.com/news/2132382/osaka-serena-barty-sabalenka-projected-to-clash-in-rome-draw

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 08, 2021, 06:19:25 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 08, 2021, 10:20:50 AM

I decided to cut my loses and cashed out my Thiem bets. He is not playing like himself today, almost no winners, just returning the ball to Zverev. Zverev should win this in 2 sets easy.

Good for you mate, I haven't watch the game because it's like 1:00 am here, if I did I would also cash out to cut my losses.

Anyway, I have Berrettini to win against Ruud @2.15 so I got the win.

In the wowen's side, Ash Barty was upset by Sabalenka, first set? 6-0, hope that someone bet for it, usual odds is 100x for that score.

So let's see Zverev vs Berrettini, as I have said, I bet on the outright on Berrettini 11x. So I do hope he pull the second biggest upset in this tournament and win against Zverev.

Current ML odds:

Zverev @1.54
Berrettini @2.44

i am guessing the same, Berrettini can make another surprise and beat Zverev in the final, and i also think it's going to three sets, both of them if they lose the first set they would be more focused on the 2nd, Berrettini to win 2-1 is @5.25 which is high and can happen easily.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 08, 2021, 04:34:31 AM

I think Zverev is riding on that big win against Nadal. So for me it will be Zverev in 3 sets against Thiem.

Zverev won but in 2 sets, yeah probably he is really hot on this tournament because he beats Nadal. Now he will be obviously the favourite to win against Berrettini.

Quote from: btc_angela on May 08, 2021, 04:34:31 AM

Ruud vs Berettini - Again Ruud winning very easy against Bublik, 6-1 in the second set. He is more rested than Berritini who won in 3 against Garin although he bagel him in the third. But I will give my good on Ruud, I think he has face high level opponents and closing them in just 2 sets.

It was the other way around, Berrettini play superb and he just needed a break to overcome Ruud. So the final setup: Zverev vs Berrettini.

The last clay court match between the two is 2019 in Rome in which Berrettini won. So I wouldn't discount the fact that he might pull an upset here. If he can return the serve of Zverev, I think he has a better chance of winning against the German.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 08, 2021, 10:20:50 AM

I decided to cut my loses and cashed out my Thiem bets. He is not playing like himself today, almost no winners, just returning the ball to Zverev. Zverev should win this in 2 sets easy.

Good for you mate, I haven't watch the game because it's like 1:00 am here, if I did I would also cash out to cut my losses.

Anyway, I have Berrettini to win against Ruud @2.15 so I got the win.

In the wowen's side, Ash Barty was upset by Sabalenka, first set? 6-0, hope that someone bet for it, usual odds is 100x for that score.

So let's see Zverev vs Berrettini, as I have said, I bet on the outright on Berrettini 11x. So I do hope he pull the second biggest upset in this tournament and win against Zverev.

Current ML odds:

Zverev @1.54
Berrettini @2.44

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 07, 2021, 06:00:13 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 07, 2021, 11:29:42 AM

^And Nadal is out in another straight 2:0 loss. he is definitely not in his best shape on clay this season. Did not see the match but this result is very surprising. Best thing about this result is that bookies have put Zverev as favorite against Thiem. I am taking Thiem win for high stake immediately before the odds drop. H2H is 8:2 for Thiem and clay is his best surface.

Getting ready to watch evening part of the program now, I have bet on Ruud to win 2:0 since he was great yesterday. Not sure about Beretini match, I went with over 21.5 games but that was just for fun.

Yeah, Zverev pulled the biggest upset so far, it ruined my parlay as it started on Nadal winning 2:0.

I think Zverev becoming the favorite against Thiem is due to his performance today. And this is good though, we can put a beat on Thiem with that attractive odds.

Good call on the Berrettini match, it was over 21.5 so a win for you. I have Berrettini 2:1 with good odds as well, so still a win for us.

@Joca97 - I have Ruud and Berettini as outright bet to win this tournament @11.x a piece, I do hope that you are correct that an underdog can win this tournament.

Zverev is playing in top form at this tournament, Nadal clearly beaten and then Thiem too, if I hadn't thought that Nadal was the clear favorite for me. But respect for Zverev, played very well and think he will win the final too.

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I decided to cut my loses and cashed out my Thiem bets. He is not playing like himself today, almost no winners, just returning the ball to Zverev. Zverev should win this in 2 sets easy.

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I just came across this very interesting news:
''Andy Murray will practise with Novak Djokovic in Rome on Sunday and hopes to return to action in 10 days' time''
Personally, I feel sorry for Murray as a player.
I remember him as a great tennis player who at the peak of his career was equal to Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, but he was stopped by numerous injuries and last year by coronavirus.
Is it possible for him to return to the top of world tennis?
I sincerely doubt it but it’s nice to see Nadal giving him support and help.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/57032348

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 08, 2021, 04:34:31 AM

I think Zverev is riding on that big win against Nadal. So for me it will be Zverev in 3 sets against Thiem.

Not so sure about that. How many times did you see player loosing next match just after winning against one of the big 3? I have seen it it at least several times and I think that is because playing against Nadal on clay takes so much away from you, even more mentally then physically. As I said my money is on Thiem simply because it has tremendous value, I was expecting odds around 1.5-1.6 on Thiem and got @2.4. I just have to place a high stake bet on that. This match is realistically 50:50 at best, no way Zverev can be favorite.

Only thing in Zverev favor today is that Madrid clay is playing almost as hard court due to conditions, if this was Barcelona or Rome I would be even more sure in Thiem.

Should be a great and close match for sure, too bad it is in the afternoon so I will probably not be able to watch it and after writing all this Zverev will take first set 6:1 just to spite me

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I think Zverev is riding on that big win against Nadal. So for me it will be Zverev in 3 sets against Thiem.

Ruud vs Berettini - Again Ruud winning very easy against Bublik, 6-1 in the second set. He is more rested than Berritini who won in 3 against Garin although he bagel him in the third. But I will give my good on Ruud, I think he has face high level opponents and closing them in just 2 sets.

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 07, 2021, 12:33:15 PM

With todays loss from nadal only 2 favorites are in it to win it
Thiem and Zverev but i wouldnt be suprised if an underdog from the back wins Madrid. Really hard to predict matches on clay lots of suprises

And they are going to face each other so only one seeded player are for sure going into the finals.

The other hand, Ruud vs Berettini, I would go with Berrettini here, he is the underdog in this fight, but I think he has more experience and if I'm not mistaken, recently capture a clay court tournament?

for the Zverev and Thiem, H2H Thiem is leading, 8-2 overall and 4-1 in clay, and he is the underdog so the risk is high for Thiem but the reward is good.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 07, 2021, 08:28:45 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on May 07, 2021, 06:07:49 PM

We are completely wrong in our prediction, on the contrary, Zverev won 2:0 against the best court player in Nadal. I don't think that Nadal is losing step, it's that that Zverev really played a perfect game today.

Yes, really wrong, I hope this is a sign that for the French Open this year there will be a new champion or at least not Nadal who is back in the championship.

Quote from: TravelMug on May 07, 2021, 06:07:49 PM

So it's Thiem vs Zverev, I still leaning on Thiem to win here, next to Nadal, I would say that he is the next best player. So let's see if Zverev can continue his winning or Thiem will stop him here. 2:1 for me - Thiem.

And you know what, in h2h Thiem is far ahead 8-2, tournament seed Thiem is in 3rd Zverev 5, but in the betting market, Zverev is the favorite to win this match, it looks like the win over Nadal has an impact on the betting market.
I have the same prediction with you Thiem won by 2-1
https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/alexander-zverev-vs-dominic-thiem/z355/tb69

It was really disappointed to see Nadal lost in a two setter, I thought that he will comeback in the second set and make the match more exciting.

And I agree that his win really affected the betting odds on his favor, but as you have said Thiem has the numbers as far as head to head is. Thiem though is notoriously known for being a slow starter so Zverev can take the first set and then Thiem coming back in the next 2 to win the match. And I wouldn't be surprised if there will be tie-breaks as well in this game so watch for it if you are going to live betting.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 07, 2021, 06:07:49 PM

We are completely wrong in our prediction, on the contrary, Zverev won 2:0 against the best court player in Nadal. I don't think that Nadal is losing step, it's that that Zverev really played a perfect game today.

Yes, really wrong, I hope this is a sign that for the French Open this year there will be a new champion or at least not Nadal who is back in the championship.

Quote from: TravelMug on May 07, 2021, 06:07:49 PM

So it's Thiem vs Zverev, I still leaning on Thiem to win here, next to Nadal, I would say that he is the next best player. So let's see if Zverev can continue his winning or Thiem will stop him here. 2:1 for me - Thiem.

And you know what, in h2h Thiem is far ahead 8-2, tournament seed Thiem is in 3rd Zverev 5, but in the betting market, Zverev is the favorite to win this match, it looks like the win over Nadal has an impact on the betting market.
I have the same prediction with you Thiem won by 2-1
https://www.atptour.com/en/players/atp-head-2-head/alexander-zverev-vs-dominic-thiem/z355/tb69

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