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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 23, 2021, 07:01:14 AM

After GS in Australia it again became an interesting story about who among the three greatest tennis players in history will become GOAT?
Never in the history of tennis or any other sport has it happened that the three best athletes play at the same time and fight each other for the title and fame of the best in history.
In its article, BBC Sport gave a very interesting analysis of this race to win the largest number of GS titles https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/56146799
Djokovic seems to have the best chances because he is the youngest of the three and the most diverse tennis player, and he has chances in all GS tournaments.
What do you think?

For me there's only Federer. It is not just about the trophies, when we talk about the best players we have to take into account their style of play as well.

Đoković and Nadal are tennis greats, no doubt about it whatsoever. But both of them spent the majority of their careers playing reactive/defensive tennis, whereas Federer is the opposite.
He's the most brilliant player tennis has ever seen, he glides across the court even aged 40 and makes tennis look so easy and elegant.

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After GS in Australia it again became an interesting story about who among the three greatest tennis players in history will become GOAT?
Never in the history of tennis or any other sport has it happened that the three best athletes play at the same time and fight each other for the title and fame of the best in history.
In its article, BBC Sport gave a very interesting analysis of this race to win the largest number of GS titles https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/56146799
Djokovic seems to have the best chances because he is the youngest of the three and the most diverse tennis player, and he has chances in all GS tournaments.
What do you think?

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Quote from: vella85 on February 22, 2021, 05:43:03 PM

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Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

Medvedev was not match for Djokovic in this final except for the first set but after that Djokovic dominated the match and won his ninth AO title easily. I would of thought it would go to five sets but Medvedev couldn't match Djokovic and again it just goes to show that the young guys coming up still can't beat the top 3. The top 3 have dominated at least one grand slam each, Federer with the most Wimbledon titles, Nadal with the most French Open titles and now Djokovic with the most AO titles. When it comes to the US Open, I'm not sure if we'll see one of these players have the most as the record is at 7 titles and the only one close right now is Federer on 5 but I can't see him reaching 7 US Open titles. Djokovic would need to win 4 to equal the record of 7 which could be possible.

When it comes to mental toughness and experience, the big 3 specially Djokovic will continue to dominate. The young generations are still no match as the 3 always play big time in a Grand Slam tournaments. I thought that this will be a epic back and forth five setter, but it is not as Djokovic put a masterful clinic to Medvedev, near perfection game.

Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

We are very lucky to witness three great players in history as I don't think we'll see this happen again in our lifetime depending on how old you are of course but to have three dominate players playing at the same time and dominating the sport might no ever happen again.

Yes, may not see another 3 great tennis player in our generation like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer at they have completely dominated in the last decade or more.

That's what it comes down to in tennis, mental toughness to keep fighting even when the player is down or is caring an injury like we saw with Djokovic. I don't think we have seen a player like Djokovic when it comes to mental toughness except maybe for Nadal as he also has that same fight in him to keep going even when he is down and out.

The young talent we are seeing in Men's tennis is very good but they won't get anywhere as long as the big three continue playing. The sad thing is that when the big three retire, most of the young talent coming through right now will be close to their 30's and some in their early 30's that's if Djokovic and Nadal can continue on to the age Federer is right now. Its going to be an interesting 3-5 years in Men's tennis.

@vella85 Djokovic was highly motivated to win this tournament, after all he had a terrible year and he wanted to silence his critics by winning this tournament. Furthermore if only had Nadal won his match, then I’m sure that the finals would have been more interesting to watch, but nevertheless I’m happy for Djokovic as he’s on the right track now.

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https://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/30939224/novak-djokovic-australian-open-2021-win-catalyst-chase-federer-nadal

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 21, 2021, 09:59:35 PM

Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

Medvedev was not match for Djokovic in this final except for the first set but after that Djokovic dominated the match and won his ninth AO title easily. I would of thought it would go to five sets but Medvedev couldn't match Djokovic and again it just goes to show that the young guys coming up still can't beat the top 3. The top 3 have dominated at least one grand slam each, Federer with the most Wimbledon titles, Nadal with the most French Open titles and now Djokovic with the most AO titles. When it comes to the US Open, I'm not sure if we'll see one of these players have the most as the record is at 7 titles and the only one close right now is Federer on 5 but I can't see him reaching 7 US Open titles. Djokovic would need to win 4 to equal the record of 7 which could be possible.

When it comes to mental toughness and experience, the big 3 specially Djokovic will continue to dominate. The young generations are still no match as the 3 always play big time in a Grand Slam tournaments. I thought that this will be a epic back and forth five setter, but it is not as Djokovic put a masterful clinic to Medvedev, near perfection game.

Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

We are very lucky to witness three great players in history as I don't think we'll see this happen again in our lifetime depending on how old you are of course but to have three dominate players playing at the same time and dominating the sport might no ever happen again.

Yes, may not see another 3 great tennis player in our generation like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer at they have completely dominated in the last decade or more.

That's what it comes down to in tennis, mental toughness to keep fighting even when the player is down or is caring an injury like we saw with Djokovic. I don't think we have seen a player like Djokovic when it comes to mental toughness except maybe for Nadal as he also has that same fight in him to keep going even when he is down and out.

The young talent we are seeing in Men's tennis is very good but they won't get anywhere as long as the big three continue playing. The sad thing is that when the big three retire, most of the young talent coming through right now will be close to their 30's and some in their early 30's that's if Djokovic and Nadal can continue on to the age Federer is right now. Its going to be an interesting 3-5 years in Men's tennis.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 21, 2021, 06:31:37 AM

For Djokovic GS in Australia is what it's for Nadal GS in France, his backyard Grin

It sure is. These two play AO i FO like they play practice match. But lately Djokovic is also very good in Wimbledon. Considering this is Novak 18 GS and he can play for sure for several more years think that only Nadal is only person who can beat him in number of GS. Roger should retire already and be tennis commentator for some sport channel and enjoy he is done with tennis. He is trying to get back but he is old for it.

Novak and Rafa are players that will break Rogers record only question is on which number they will stop.

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Quote from: hulla on February 21, 2021, 05:46:53 PM

Wow! I am really for N. Djokovic for the success of today's Australian open final despite all the health syndromes challenges during the tournament, this is well deserved winning. Also congratulations to the first Asian tennis player (Naomi Osaka)to hold the top ranking in females single for the outstanding in women category.

N. Djokovic is ready for the final with his performance which did not let Medvedev to repeated his success in ATP Nitto Finals last year.
Djokovics became one of the players with the most titles in one GS with 9 in AO and the rest in other GS tournaments, but Nadal tstill the most with 13 titles in RG.

Naomi Osaka is one of the most successful Asian tennis players, so maybe she will become a legend with many titles considering her age still young, currently She in seconds place after Barthy rank.

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Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

Medvedev was not match for Djokovic in this final except for the first set but after that Djokovic dominated the match and won his ninth AO title easily. I would of thought it would go to five sets but Medvedev couldn't match Djokovic and again it just goes to show that the young guys coming up still can't beat the top 3. The top 3 have dominated at least one grand slam each, Federer with the most Wimbledon titles, Nadal with the most French Open titles and now Djokovic with the most AO titles. When it comes to the US Open, I'm not sure if we'll see one of these players have the most as the record is at 7 titles and the only one close right now is Federer on 5 but I can't see him reaching 7 US Open titles. Djokovic would need to win 4 to equal the record of 7 which could be possible.

When it comes to mental toughness and experience, the big 3 specially Djokovic will continue to dominate. The young generations are still no match as the 3 always play big time in a Grand Slam tournaments. I thought that this will be a epic back and forth five setter, but it is not as Djokovic put a masterful clinic to Medvedev, near perfection game.

Quote from: vella85 on February 21, 2021, 05:39:57 PM

We are very lucky to witness three great players in history as I don't think we'll see this happen again in our lifetime depending on how old you are of course but to have three dominate players playing at the same time and dominating the sport might no ever happen again.

Yes, may not see another 3 great tennis player in our generation like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer at they have completely dominated in the last decade or more.

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Wow! I am really for N. Djokovic for the success of today's Australian open final despite all the health syndromes challenges during the tournament, this is well deserved winning. Also congratulations to the first Asian tennis player (Naomi Osaka)to hold the top ranking in females single for the outstanding in women category.

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Medvedev was not match for Djokovic in this final except for the first set but after that Djokovic dominated the match and won his ninth AO title easily. I would of thought it would go to five sets but Medvedev couldn't match Djokovic and again it just goes to show that the young guys coming up still can't beat the top 3. The top 3 have dominated at least one grand slam each, Federer with the most Wimbledon titles, Nadal with the most French Open titles and now Djokovic with the most AO titles. When it comes to the US Open, I'm not sure if we'll see one of these players have the most as the record is at 7 titles and the only one close right now is Federer on 5 but I can't see him reaching 7 US Open titles. Djokovic would need to win 4 to equal the record of 7 which could be possible.

We are very lucky to witness three great players in history as I don't think we'll see this happen again in our lifetime depending on how old you are of course but to have three dominate players playing at the same time and dominating the sport might no ever happen again.

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Well deserved for Đoković. Australia is his favorite place by far, it's his 9th win there (50% of all his Grand Slam wins).

It will be really interesting to see his and Nadal's fight for the GS total. Federer and Nadal are on 20 each, Đoković has 18. Federer's practically done, Nadal is 34 and Đoković 33. Nadal will probably surpass Federer, Đoković can as well.

It's incredible that top 3 all-time GS winners all played during the same era. We will probably never see such quality of tennis again.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 21, 2021, 06:40:28 AM

match point for Djokovic.... and a win in 3 sets.

Far superior for sure, I really thought it would be closer but the gap between the two
players was great. Medvedev showed some great skill but mentally he couldnt deal
with the Djokovic game.

Yes, I thought that we are going to see a five set match between the two, but Djokovic is still in the top of his game and didn't give Medvedev a change to comeback in this match. Djokovic is more of a cerebral tennis player as he mature. On the flip side, Medvedev should treat this as motivation for the next grand slam and not be discourage by the lost to Djokovic in AO.

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Congratulation to both players but once again I'm fascinated with Novak, the absolute definition of mental strength. He was on a mission and he made it, mentally present at every point, so focused, returns right under opponent's feet, served well (big thanks to Ivanisevic+ quicker court speed this year AO), destroyed opponent in cross-court exchanges (particularly backhand to backhand), had a dimension more (mix it up with net approaches and bh slices to interrupt the rhythm of a rally.
Opponent not so young but mentally not near the BIG3. We all expected 4-5setter and more than 4 hours of play but in the end it was stroll through the park for the world number 1.

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Medvedev had a good journey up until the finals. Looked solid in his play but as Djoker mentioned at the end of his previous match that he's feeling a lot better going into the finals and was fully fit. Djoker is genuinely one of the GOATs. I know he isnt as popular as Federer and Nadal but on his day, he can outclass anyone. He has proven it time and time again. The fitness level that he produces is prime Nadalesque.

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Quote from: babygun on February 21, 2021, 07:24:22 AM

Next grand slam is Roland Garros and I hope that Federer will have returned by then.

Don't hope too much. Federer often decided to skip RG and clay season even when ready. I am quite sure he will give his 100% to be in top form for Wimbeldon and Olymipc games, everything else he will probably miss or play a tournament here and there for match fitness.

Cograts to Djokovic, he really showed his dominance once more. I was quite sure some of the new guys would take him out but his mental prowess is just on another level. In the end Fritz came closest and Zverev was the only one who managed to test him when fit.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 21, 2021, 06:40:28 AM

match point for Djokovic.... and a win in 3 sets.

Far superior for sure, I really thought it would be closer but the gap between the two
players was great. Medvedev showed some great skill but mentally he couldnt deal
with the Djokovic game.

I also thought it would be closer (same for the match of Medvedev vs Tsitsipas) but congrats to Djokovic for winning yet another grand slam.
It was the 2nd grand slam final for Medvedev and probably more will follow. Next grand slam is Roland Garros and I hope that Federer will have returned by then.

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match point for Djokovic.... and a win in 3 sets.

Far superior for sure, I really thought it would be closer but the gap between the two
players was great. Medvedev showed some great skill but mentally he couldnt deal
with the Djokovic game.

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Quote from: babygun on February 21, 2021, 06:25:16 AM

Congrats for Osaka for winning her 4th grandslam, hopefully she can continue like this as I like to see her play.

Mens final is under its way and it seems to be that Djokovic will win easily in 3 sets. He won the first 2 sets with 7-5 and 6-2 and is now up 3-1 in the 3rd set.

The current result in the third set is 4:1 for Djokovic and the match is practically over.
Djokovic once again showed why he is the best tennis player in the world and Medvedev is too nervous and has once again shown that he is not mentally at the required level to win the GS.
For Djokovic GS in Australia is what it's for Nadal GS in France, his backyard Grin

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Congrats for Osaka for winning her 4th grandslam, hopefully she can continue like this as I like to see her play.

Mens final is under its way and it seems to be that Djokovic will win easily in 3 sets. He won the first 2 sets with 7-5 and 6-2 and is now up 3-1 in the 3rd set.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 20, 2021, 08:23:52 PM

^^ Yeah, Osaka has the form and the mental patient just like Serena when she was just starting her career. And 4/4 in a Grand Slam? that's huge already in his career.

For Tsitsipas, definitely we do hope that we will come back strong after this lost. I'm expecting him to learn from this, his win from Nadal and subsequent lost to Medvedev.

Djokovic wil raise the trophy for this year, unless Medvedev played solid tennis and has the mentality of the champion.

Osaka reminds me of Serena in her younger days.
She is still very young and it seems to me that she is the natural heiress of Serena especially given the relatively weak competition in women’s tennis.
Djokovic is probably the strongest mentally among all tennis players and in the crucial moments of the match, that gives him an advantage.
Medvedev is a great tennis player and the future of tennis, but he still has to prove that he is mentally ready for the greatest things.
In the meantime, Croatian tennis player Dodig won another GS in men's doubles with Polasek.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 20, 2021, 08:23:52 PM

^^ Yeah, Osaka has the form and the mental patient just like Serena when she was just starting her career. And 4/4 in a Grand Slam? that's huge already in his career.

For Tsitsipas, definitely we do hope that we will come back strong after this lost. I'm expecting him to learn from this, his win from Nadal and subsequent lost to Medvedev.

Djokovic wil raise the trophy for this year, unless Medvedev played solid tennis and has the mentality of the champion.

It will be interesting to see what "antics" Djokovic gets up to when its a close match
and Medvedev is his equal or slightly better. Its going to be close.

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