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January 03, 2024, 07:22:35 AM
I think Rune is ok, he has broken Shevchenko in the third set.

In Brisbane Nadal will be playing Kubler tomorrow, Nadal is hot favourite @ 1.16 which is
about right.

Just looking for news about Djokovic and its pretty much all saying he was able to shake
off the injury scare.

Naomi Osaka lost to Pliskova today 6:3, 6:7, 4:6. Not bad performance from a player who is just back from a maternity leave.

Russian teen Mirra Andreeva dispatched Samsonova in two easy sets 6:2, 6:1. Watch out for this young prodigy!

Match of the day is certainly first seed Rune vs Shevchenko. I won't be betting on this one as Rune is far from his best form and the Russian can surprise everyone with a win over the Dane.

I caught the match between Sakkari and Fernandez in the United Cup which was a great battle.

I have yet to see Naomi play, she will get better for sure.
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January 03, 2024, 07:14:53 AM
Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.

And Novak Djokovic, who played in the United Cup, reportedly suffered a wrist injury during training but it has not been confirmed and he managed to beat Jiri Lehecka to make Serbia 1-1 and managed to win through mixed doubles where he did not play and was replaced by young Serbian player Hamad Medjedovic.
That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.



Yea I heard about Djokovic injuring his wrist and then pulling out of the mixed doubles. I wonder
how serious that is going to be. It might be very minor but here we were before Christmas talking
about hoe resilient Novak is.
Djokovic just played and lost to De Minaur so this injury has affected his game as the match was done in straight sets 6-4 for both.

Not sure why he didn't just pull out of playing in this United Cup and not get ready with recovering from this injury for the Australian Open which starts on the 14th of the month (13th for Australia).
That tournament should be more important to him in the long run and surely would benefit more with a good performance from this first major of the year.

I watched this match and there were no visible signs Djokovic was injured or feeling uncomfortable because of his wrist issue. Although, if I were him, I'd definitely let myself rest before the GS tournament. Anyway, he knows his body better, perhaps his injury is not that bad.
 
Meanwhile, as I predicted earlier, Shevchenko is taking his match against Rune into the 3rd set! 3:6, 7:5 so far and things are not looking good for the Dane.
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January 03, 2024, 06:18:06 AM
Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.

And Novak Djokovic, who played in the United Cup, reportedly suffered a wrist injury during training but it has not been confirmed and he managed to beat Jiri Lehecka to make Serbia 1-1 and managed to win through mixed doubles where he did not play and was replaced by young Serbian player Hamad Medjedovic.
That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.



Yea I heard about Djokovic injuring his wrist and then pulling out of the mixed doubles. I wonder
how serious that is going to be. It might be very minor but here we were before Christmas talking
about hoe resilient Novak is.
Djokovic just played and lost to De Minaur so this injury has affected his game as the match was done in straight sets 6-4 for both.

Not sure why he didn't just pull out of playing in this United Cup and not get ready with recovering from this injury for the Australian Open which starts on the 14th of the month (13th for Australia).
That tournament should be more important to him in the long run and surely would benefit more with a good performance from this first major of the year.
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January 03, 2024, 05:51:54 AM
That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.

Yeah, Nadal looked awesome, he didn't look like he missed a lot of time due to injury. But I have to say that it wasn't Nadal who started playing better in the 2nd set it was Thiem who started playing worse IMHO. I'm not sure why whether due to fitness issues or something else but Domi looked like he was the one who was out for a year with an injury. It was one way traffic in the second set.

I did not watch, I just read the reports about this match. It was probably a successful comeback and as Nadal said, he iss happy to be able to play at this level. When one consider that he has not played a tournament for so long. The preparation was apparently good enough. But it is not just the physical fitness which is important for the first few games. Mental fitness is also important.

Nadal his last match was 351 days ago and while I also didn't see the match, it is good that Nadal is back and that he could win his first match after an injury. Offcourse, this is only 1 match, so will be interesting to watch his performance in his second match against Kubler tomorrow.
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January 03, 2024, 05:22:47 AM
Naomi Osaka lost to Pliskova today 6:3, 6:7, 4:6. Not bad performance from a player who is just back from a maternity leave.

Russian teen Mirra Andreeva dispatched Samsonova in two easy sets 6:2, 6:1. Watch out for this young prodigy!

Match of the day is certainly first seed Rune vs Shevchenko. I won't be betting on this one as Rune is far from his best form and the Russian can surprise everyone with a win over the Dane.
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January 02, 2024, 10:19:52 AM
Nadal vs Thiem, are both on their comeback journeys, albeit in different phases of it. The match didn’t deserve to be a first-round encounter. They both played an electric first set with the quality on par with at least quarterfinals of a slam. 7-5,6-1 to Nadal, I couldn’t have imagined such a reassuring comeback against a quality opposition, while Nadal missed the whole of last season and played the previous one constantly in pain, (Knee). Also, the fact that he played the 2022 French Open with knee issues, and pain and still won it. Hope he can stay injury-free for a couple more seasons so that he can challenge Djokovic and the new-gen players to some more titles and etch his name in some more Grand Slams.
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January 02, 2024, 08:45:02 AM
That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.

Yeah, Nadal looked awesome, he didn't look like he missed a lot of time due to injury. But I have to say that it wasn't Nadal who started playing better in the 2nd set it was Thiem who started playing worse IMHO. I'm not sure why whether due to fitness issues or something else but Domi looked like he was the one who was out for a year with an injury. It was one way traffic in the second set.

I did not watch, I just read the reports about this match. It was probably a successful comeback and as Nadal said, he iss happy to be able to play at this level. When one consider that he has not played a tournament for so long. The preparation was apparently good enough. But it is not just the physical fitness which is important for the first few games. Mental fitness is also important.
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January 02, 2024, 08:00:49 AM
That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.



Yea I heard about Djokovic injuring his wrist and then pulling out of the mixed doubles. I wonder
how serious that is going to be. It might be very minor but here we were before Christmas talking
about hoe resilient Novak is.

Yeah, Nadal looked awesome, he didn't look like he missed a lot of time due to injury. But I have to say that it wasn't Nadal who started playing better in the 2nd set it was Thiem who started playing worse IMHO. I'm not sure why whether due to fitness issues or something else but Domi looked like he was the one who was out for a year with an injury. It was one way traffic in the second set.
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January 02, 2024, 05:57:59 AM

and the Netherlands beat Norway 2-1 with the help of the doubles match. Ruud beat Griekspoor
which would be expected.


The Netherlands v Norway was an interesting match, the Dutch won it in mixed doubles: Dutch veteran and captain Wesley Koolhof and doubles specialist Demi Schuurs helped their country bounce back, defeating Casper Ruud and Ulrikke Eikeri 7-6(5), 7-5. Pretty logical move from the Dutch team me thinks as doubles players have more chances in mixed doubles than individual stars.    



Australia outperformed USA 2:1. Taylor Fritz lost to de Minaur, Pegula won against Tomljanovic and Hunter/Ebden won in the decider 6:3, 6:1 against Pegula and Ram.
 

I see a headline that Australia are through to the quarter finals.
Looking at the group standings on the website I dont think they are updated yet, it is showing
Australia win/loss 1-1

Poland and Croatia are the only two with 2-0

Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.

And Novak Djokovic, who played in the United Cup, reportedly suffered a wrist injury during training but it has not been confirmed and he managed to beat Jiri Lehecka to make Serbia 1-1 and managed to win through mixed doubles where he did not play and was replaced by young Serbian player Hamad Medjedovic.

That was a fairly strong performance from Nadal particularly in the second set to win that 1-6.
The commentators were in awe of his performance and fitness after being out for so long.



Yea I heard about Djokovic injuring his wrist and then pulling out of the mixed doubles. I wonder
how serious that is going to be. It might be very minor but here we were before Christmas talking
about hoe resilient Novak is.
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January 02, 2024, 05:54:59 AM
Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.
After a tough fight, it was Nadal who won the first set. From the beginning, consecutive points came, and the points got leveled at 5–5. From this point, Nadal took the lead 6-5 and had a break point, winning the set 7-5. The final point was crucial, it went to the fourth set point, and Nadal won it. This is going to be a winning match for Nadal, and that marks a great comeback for him after a break of almost one year.
The second set was easier for Nadal and he managed to break Thiem's game several times and had no trouble ending the match on the first match point, but I'm actually hoped that Dominic Thiem would show something different in the second set, but he seemed difficult to get out of the pressure, great comeback for Nadal, and the next round will be against Karatsev/Kubler,
And also in the women's section yesterday, Naomi Osaka managed to win and tomorrow she will face a quite difficult match against Karolina Pliskova, this should be an exciting match if Pliskova can play tennis at her best level.
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January 02, 2024, 05:18:06 AM
Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.
After a tough fight, it was Nadal who won the first set. From the beginning, consecutive points came, and the points got leveled at 5–5. From this point, Nadal took the lead 6-5 and had a break point, winning the set 7-5. The final point was crucial, it went to the fourth set point, and Nadal won it. This is going to be a winning match for Nadal, and that marks a great comeback for him after a break of almost one year.
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January 02, 2024, 05:00:11 AM
Are you guys watching Nadal vs Thiem right now? The match was quite interesting and both were still solid without anyone having their game broken, I think this first set will be decided by a tiebreak. This is a match that is quite eagerly awaited by tennis fans and Nadal looks very ready for this tournament, he played doubles too but lost in the first round.

And Novak Djokovic, who played in the United Cup, reportedly suffered a wrist injury during training but it has not been confirmed and he managed to beat Jiri Lehecka to make Serbia 1-1 and managed to win through mixed doubles where he did not play and was replaced by young Serbian player Hamad Medjedovic.
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January 01, 2024, 01:05:46 PM

and the Netherlands beat Norway 2-1 with the help of the doubles match. Ruud beat Griekspoor
which would be expected.


The Netherlands v Norway was an interesting match, the Dutch won it in mixed doubles: Dutch veteran and captain Wesley Koolhof and doubles specialist Demi Schuurs helped their country bounce back, defeating Casper Ruud and Ulrikke Eikeri 7-6(5), 7-5. Pretty logical move from the Dutch team me thinks as doubles players have more chances in mixed doubles than individual stars.    


Yes for sure, two doubles specialists v two singles players in a doubles match should be
always able to win and that they did.

For todays matches so far its United Kingdom v USA and its 1-1 so far. Katie Boulter is
on a roll beating Jessica Pegula over 3 sets and Taylor Fritz beating Cameron Norrie
over 2.

This tie now depends on the doubles match:
Fritz/Pegula v Skupski/Boulter,
The US pair are favourites @ 1.44 v 2.75 for the UK pair, they might just pull that off!

Today Poland defeated Spain despite great performance by Davidovich Fokina. Swiatek won her match against Sorribes Tormo and then Poland's Swiatek and Hurkacz destroyed Spain's Sorribes Tormo/Davidovich Fokina 6:0, 6:0. Poland wins 2:1.

Australia outperformed USA 2:1. Taylor Fritz lost to de Minaur, Pegula won against Tomljanovic and Hunter/Ebden won in the decider 6:3, 6:1 against Pegula and Ram.

France - Germany 2:1
Norway - Croatia 2:1 
legendary
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December 31, 2023, 02:29:10 AM

and the Netherlands beat Norway 2-1 with the help of the doubles match. Ruud beat Griekspoor
which would be expected.


The Netherlands v Norway was an interesting match, the Dutch won it in mixed doubles: Dutch veteran and captain Wesley Koolhof and doubles specialist Demi Schuurs helped their country bounce back, defeating Casper Ruud and Ulrikke Eikeri 7-6(5), 7-5. Pretty logical move from the Dutch team me thinks as doubles players have more chances in mixed doubles than individual stars.    


Yes for sure, two doubles specialists v two singles players in a doubles match should be
always able to win and that they did.

For todays matches so far its United Kingdom v USA and its 1-1 so far. Katie Boulter is
on a roll beating Jessica Pegula over 3 sets and Taylor Fritz beating Cameron Norrie
over 2.

This tie now depends on the doubles match:
Fritz/Pegula v Skupski/Boulter,
The US pair are favourites @ 1.44 v 2.75 for the UK pair, they might just pull that off!
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December 30, 2023, 02:19:43 PM
Well I'm watching Sonego v Zverev currently, its on serve with some great play so far.

Earlier Paolini beat Kerber!

Yesterday Spain beat Brazil 2-1 in a doubles decider

and interestingly/surprisingly United Kingdom beat Australia 2 -1 without relying on
the doubles match. Boulter beat Tomljanovic and Norrie beat de Minaur, would have expected
the opposite of both matches.

and the Netherlands beat Norway 2-1 with the help of the doubles match. Ruud beat Griekspoor
which would be expected.

Zverev beat Sonego 6-7(5) 6-3, 6-4 and later team Germany won mixed doubles 6-3, 6-0.

Kerber losing against Paolini is not surprising, Angelique is back from maternity leave so I wasn't expecting great performance from the German.

Tomljanovic losing to Boulter is also not shocking. Ajla hasn't played on a high level for quite a time already.

de Minaur v Norrie result is somewhat unexpected, I agree. de Minaur showed below average performance on home soil.

The Netherlands v Norway was an interesting match, the Dutch won it in mixed doubles: Dutch veteran and captain Wesley Koolhof and doubles specialist Demi Schuurs helped their country bounce back, defeating Casper Ruud and Ulrikke Eikeri 7-6(5), 7-5. Pretty logical move from the Dutch team me thinks as doubles players have more chances in mixed doubles than individual stars.     
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December 30, 2023, 04:35:08 AM

...and of course, Novak Djokovic!

Here are the groups:

Group A (Perth): Spain, Poland, Brazil
Group B (Sydney): Canada, Chile, Greece
Group C (Perth): Great Britain, USA, Australia
Group D (Sydney): Italy, Germany, France
Group E (Perth): Czech Republic, China, Serbia
Group F (Sydney): Netherlands, Norway, Croatia

Wow, that's an impressive lineup! Looking forward to seeing Angelique Kerber and Alex Zverev in action for Team Germany. The groups also seem competitive, especially with the inclusion of top players like Novak Djokovic. Should be an exciting tournament!

Well I'm watching Sonego v Zverev currently, its on serve with some great play so far.

Earlier Paolini beat Kerber!

Yesterday Spain beat Brazil 2-1 in a doubles decider

and interestingly/surprisingly United Kingdom beat Australia 2 -1 without relying on
the doubles match. Boulter beat Tomljanovic and Norrie beat de Minaur, would have expected
the opposite of both matches.

and the Netherlands beat Norway 2-1 with the help of the doubles match. Ruud beat Griekspoor
which would be expected.
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December 29, 2023, 11:46:06 PM

...and of course, Novak Djokovic!

Here are the groups:

Group A (Perth): Spain, Poland, Brazil
Group B (Sydney): Canada, Chile, Greece
Group C (Perth): Great Britain, USA, Australia
Group D (Sydney): Italy, Germany, France
Group E (Perth): Czech Republic, China, Serbia
Group F (Sydney): Netherlands, Norway, Croatia

Wow, that's an impressive lineup! Looking forward to seeing Angelique Kerber and Alex Zverev in action for Team Germany. The groups also seem competitive, especially with the inclusion of top players like Novak Djokovic. Should be an exciting tournament!
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December 29, 2023, 10:38:06 PM
Medvedev isn't really serious competition for Djokovic. When I say serious competition I mean a player who can consistently beat Djokovic. Of course it is possible for Medvedev to win a game against Djokovic, but over the course of a year I doubt that if they were to meet five times that Medvedev could ever win the majority of the games against him. Djokovic is in top condition physically and mentally and in contrast to Medvedev, Djokovic never gives up on games. Medvedev sometimes gets mentally derailed and plays as if he hated the sport.

Djokovic is a machine, physically and mentally on top of his game, he is definitely the one to
beat and its going to be difficult over 5 sets in the Grand Slams.
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Yes, but every machine has it's expiration date. Newer model will be released and the old one will be scrapped. I mean he is 36 years old and he is approaching the end of his career. Yes, he is fit and using that ultra-healthy diet and stuff but you can't trick time. I really think that 2024 will become the beginning of the end for Nole.
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I have to agree that even he is machine but now reaching out to his expiry and now it's time for him to give up and try to have some other role because things are taking changes quickly, but one thing is surely now we are going to miss few things from this era like we will have no players like Djokovic, Nadal and Federer they were one of the best and done many historic things which are going to stay for the long time new era players not have enough consistency and professional approach like them which keep them at this level for long time.

Most of the new generation players are going to have inconsistency and lack of quality as well which will bring ATP just like we have WTA with many winners in every year without any long term good quality player able to stay with his consistency and quality.
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December 29, 2023, 05:49:53 PM
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Yes, but every machine has it's expiration date. Newer model will be released and the old one will be scrapped. I mean he is 36 years old and he is approaching the end of his career. Yes, he is fit and using that ultra-healthy diet and stuff but you can't trick time. I really think that 2024 will become the beginning of the end for Nole.


But you are talking as if someone here claimed that Djokovic doesn't age. Everyone is aware that he is not getting any younger and that he will one day have to retire like everyone else. But that is not the point of our discussion. The point is that he is the GOAT already and it doesn't matter whether someone likes him or not. He is actually not my favorite player. But I have to admit that he is the most impressive player across all surfaces whereas without a doubt Nadal is the king of clay. But it's craziness to see that Djokovic is healthy on such a high level. He isn't suffering from serious stuff like Nadal is. I am just wondering whether this will go on for maybe two or three more years? If this is once again going to be a remarkable season for him, he could be tearing down the 30 GS titles wall. That would be nuts.
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December 29, 2023, 12:52:38 PM
Looking down through the team sheets for the United Cup its interesting to see the absence
of Jannik Sinner and Carlos Alcaraz for teams Italy and Spain.

Ive been reading Sinner wont make an appearance until the middle of January for the Kooyong
Classic in Australia.

I wonder how these tournaments really feel about top players appearing at their event
and knowing that they are not going to get 100% from the top players...although there is
decent prize money.


Well, Medvedev on fast hard court surface (like US Open) can be a menace for Nole. Hard courts are relatively slow in Australia but let's not underestimate the Russian. Last year he started really well by winning several titles in a row.

Meanwhile, we can expect another impressive return in WTA: Naomi Osaka will be back after giving birth to her child. Japanese star will be playing for the first time since 2021.

Medvedev isn't really serious competition for Djokovic. When I say serious competition I mean a player who can consistently beat Djokovic. Of course it is possible for Medvedev to win a game against Djokovic, but over the course of a year I doubt that if they were to meet five times that Medvedev could ever win the majority of the games against him. Djokovic is in top condition physically and mentally and in contrast to Medvedev, Djokovic never gives up on games. Medvedev sometimes gets mentally derailed and plays as if he hated the sport.

Djokovic is a machine, physically and mentally on top of his game, he is definitely the one to
beat and its going to be difficult over 5 sets in the Grand Slams.
Yes, but every machine has it's expiration date. Newer model will be released and the old one will be scrapped. I mean he is 36 years old and he is approaching the end of his career. Yes, he is fit and using that ultra-healthy diet and stuff but you can't trick time. I really think that 2024 will become the beginning of the end for Nole.
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