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Quote from: aoluain on November 27, 2023, 04:43:53 PM

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On Sinner, this was definitely his best year and hopefully he can make another step
forward in performance, maybe enough to take a grand slam? What is everyones
expectations of this?

this is just matter of time. in my opinion... he has all characteristics that a top tennis player need to have.
bear in mind, Sinner was a perfect unknown player 5 years ago... now he is a top 10 player....
If he continue with that pace he can achieve a lot of success.

Italian players have been hosted in a lot of Italian TV programs (obviously online connection...)
https://video.corriere.it/sport/pietrangeli-non-mi-sembra-carino-declinare-invito-mattarella-io-ci-vado/05ebd67e-8d41-11ee-b4a7-347e05f6b33b
Meanwhile Nicola Pietrangeli continue to criticize the whole team ( Roll Eyes

) this time because Italian players decide to go on holiday and "refused" to meet Italian President of Repubblic (Mattarella) .
I don't think this is a good way to support a team/players, but they probably don't need useless praise Wink

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 27, 2023, 10:17:27 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 26, 2023, 03:22:09 PM

Yup, and after 47 years they have had a long wait. TBH I thought it might have gone to
a doubles decider but it was a fairly convincing 2 match win. Well done to team Italy,
I'll bet bitbollo is delighted!

TBH eventhough there is little to play for its still a prestigious event for the players, in
what is an individual sport, to be able to play as a team brings a new dimension and a great
way to end the year.

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Quote from: babygun on November 26, 2023, 09:57:16 AM

Looking at the players, Italy has indeed the best chance to win but there is no real value in it, the odd for Italy to win is too low for me. I think the end result will be 2-1 for Italy with Sinner winning his singles match and than together with Sonego, he also has a high chance of winning the double match.

Yep, Italy won but this is "only" and historical cup.

I don't like this cup because there is not real value in winning it, but whaterver always a win.

No not much value in it.

ahahhaha yeah it's an awesome moment for all Italians Wink

the last david cup wins by Italy team was achieved on 1976 so this is a great result.
It's nice also to see that a lot of people have interest in this sport and are not talking only about football!

Funny video below.
https://video.corriere.it/sport/pietrangeli-sale-podio-coppa-davis-sinner-gela-lo-sguardo/c8fe5df8-8d19-11ee-b4a7-347e05f6b33b?vclk=video3CHP%7Cpietrangeli-sale-podio-coppa-davis-sinner-gela-lo-sguardo
Pietrangeli was the captain of Italian team on 1976. He declared several times comments "against" Sinner, probably the worst
"he need 2 lifes to achieve mine success"... Sinner's face is the best answer Wink

OMG, that is super arrogant by Nicola Pietrangeli, what he said was totally not what
Jannik Sinner would ever say. I can see why Jannik had that cold dark stare for Nicola.

On Sinner, this was definitely his best year and hopefully he can make another step
forward in performance, maybe enough to take a grand slam? What is everyones
expectations of this?

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Quote from: aoluain on November 26, 2023, 03:22:09 PM

Yup, and after 47 years they have had a long wait. TBH I thought it might have gone to
a doubles decider but it was a fairly convincing 2 match win. Well done to team Italy,
I'll bet bitbollo is delighted!

TBH eventhough there is little to play for its still a prestigious event for the players, in
what is an individual sport, to be able to play as a team brings a new dimension and a great
way to end the year.

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Quote from: babygun on November 26, 2023, 09:57:16 AM

Looking at the players, Italy has indeed the best chance to win but there is no real value in it, the odd for Italy to win is too low for me. I think the end result will be 2-1 for Italy with Sinner winning his singles match and than together with Sonego, he also has a high chance of winning the double match.

Yep, Italy won but this is "only" and historical cup.

I don't like this cup because there is not real value in winning it, but whaterver always a win.

No not much value in it.

ahahhaha yeah it's an awesome moment for all Italians Wink

the last david cup wins by Italy team was achieved on 1976 so this is a great result.
It's nice also to see that a lot of people have interest in this sport and are not talking only about football!

Funny video below.
https://video.corriere.it/sport/pietrangeli-sale-podio-coppa-davis-sinner-gela-lo-sguardo/c8fe5df8-8d19-11ee-b4a7-347e05f6b33b?vclk=video3CHP%7Cpietrangeli-sale-podio-coppa-davis-sinner-gela-lo-sguardo
Pietrangeli was the captain of Italian team on 1976. He declared several times comments "against" Sinner, probably the worst
"he need 2 lifes to achieve mine success"... Sinner's face is the best answer Wink

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Yup, and after 47 years they have had a long wait. TBH I thought it might have gone to
a doubles decider but it was a fairly convincing 2 match win. Well done to team Italy,
I'll bet bitbollo is delighted!

TBH eventhough there is little to play for its still a prestigious event for the players, in
what is an individual sport, to be able to play as a team brings a new dimension and a great
way to end the year.

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Quote from: babygun on November 26, 2023, 09:57:16 AM

Looking at the players, Italy has indeed the best chance to win but there is no real value in it, the odd for Italy to win is too low for me. I think the end result will be 2-1 for Italy with Sinner winning his singles match and than together with Sonego, he also has a high chance of winning the double match.

Yep, Italy won but this is "only" and historical cup.

I don't like this cup because there is not real value in winning it, but whaterver always a win.

No not much value in it.

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Aaaaand it's an easy win for team Italy: 2:0 over Australia as predicted by many. Arnaldi defeated Popyrin in the first match and Sinner dismissed de Minaur 6:3, 6:0 in the second. Congrats team Italy!

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Quote from: babygun on November 26, 2023, 09:57:16 AM

Looking at the players, Italy has indeed the best chance to win but there is no real value in it, the odd for Italy to win is too low for me. I think the end result will be 2-1 for Italy with Sinner winning his singles match and than together with Sonego, he also has a high chance of winning the double match.

Yep, Italy won but this is "only" and historical cup.

I don't like this cup because there is not real value in winning it, but whaterver always a win.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 26, 2023, 03:58:48 AM

Its brilliant, another Sinner win against Djokovic to bring the draw to a doubles match,
where technically Sinner beat Djokovic for the 3rd time!

Its Australia v Italy in the final now. You would have to fancy Italy to take the title.
Looking at the team sheet Italy have stronger players but if the match comes down to
a doubles decider I think it could go either way.

The odds are Australia 3.0 - 1.39 Italy

Looking at the players, Italy has indeed the best chance to win but there is no real value in it, the odd for Italy to win is too low for me. I think the end result will be 2-1 for Italy with Sinner winning his singles match and than together with Sonego, he also has a high chance of winning the double match.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 25, 2023, 06:23:24 PM

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I feel it's going to be Italy in the final. Đoković is a favorite against Sinner but Musetti should be beating Kecmanović.
Doubles are where I think it will be settled, and although Đoković is playing I do feel the advantage is with Bolelli/Sonego.

Whoever wins here should be a favorite against the Australians.

Sinner have won the match in style. In less than a week after the loss to Djokovic in the Nitto ATP finals Sinner have won the match 6-2 2-6 7-5. In the other match Kecmanovic have beaten Musetti 6-7(7) 6-2 6-1. Sinner teaming with Sonego and defeated Djokovic and Kecmanovic pair in the doubles in the direct set 6-3 6-4. A big win and Italy into its first Davis Cup final since 1998, which is 25 years gap.

Its brilliant, another Sinner win against Djokovic to bring the draw to a doubles match,
where technically Sinner beat Djokovic for the 3rd time!

Its Australia v Italy in the final now. You would have to fancy Italy to take the title.
Looking at the team sheet Italy have stronger players but if the match comes down to
a doubles decider I think it could go either way.

The odds are Australia 3.0 - 1.39 Italy

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 25, 2023, 06:08:59 AM

I feel it's going to be Italy in the final. Đoković is a favorite against Sinner but Musetti should be beating Kecmanović.
Doubles are where I think it will be settled, and although Đoković is playing I do feel the advantage is with Bolelli/Sonego.

Whoever wins here should be a favorite against the Australians.

Sinner have won the match in style. In less than a week after the loss to Djokovic in the Nitto ATP finals Sinner have won the match 6-2 2-6 7-5. In the other match Kecmanovic have beaten Musetti 6-7(7) 6-2 6-1. Sinner teaming with Sonego and defeated Djokovic and Kecmanovic pair in the doubles in the direct set 6-3 6-4. A big win and Italy into its first Davis Cup final since 1998, which is 25 years gap.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 25, 2023, 05:15:34 PM

Sinner has beaten Đoković again, 2 times in the last 3 games.

I think it has never happened for Đoković losing 2 times against the same player is a such short period of time!

Can he go for big slams in 2024?

Didn’t see Djokovic losing to be honest, but congrats to Sinner. Will be an interesting year to watch the grand slams, as Djokovic will not be the only big favorite to win the titles (Alcaraz, Sinner, …). I still see Djokovic winning at least 1 grand slam but doubt he would win 3 or 4.

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Sinner has beaten Đoković again, 2 times in the last 3 games.

I think it has never happened for Đoković losing 2 times against the same player is a such short period of time!

Can he go for big slams in 2024?

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I feel it's going to be Italy in the final. Đoković is a favorite against Sinner but Musetti should be beating Kecmanović.
Doubles are where I think it will be settled, and although Đoković is playing I do feel the advantage is with Bolelli/Sonego.

Whoever wins here should be a favorite against the Australians.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 24, 2023, 01:06:28 PM

It is Italy v Serbia tonight which should be a really interesting match up. Yesterdays
match went to a doubles decider with Sinner/Sonego overcoming doubles specialists
Griekspoor/Koolhof.

The betting market favors Serbia who will advance to the final to meet Australia, but my prediction is that this will continue until the doubles match to determine who will go to the final because Italy has the opportunity to take one match and unlike yesterday's semi-final where Australia managed to win the first two matches so the third match became unnecessary.
If Italy plays Jannick Sinner against Novak Djokovic, what are Sinner's chances of beating Djokovic? because no player can beat Djokovic twice this year.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2023, 09:12:03 AM

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Watching Jannick Sinner play in singles and doubles with Lorenzo Sonego, it can be seen that he is very motivated to bring his country to qualify for the semifinals by beating the Netherlands in the deciding match in doubles.
Interestingly, maybe we will again watch the Jannick Sinner vs Novak Djokovic match because Italy and Serbia will be facing each other in the semifinals, but it could be that the two countries use different strategies to win and the doubles match will be decisive.

Finland being able to reach the semifinals is the most surprising thing and facing Australia they have the opportunity to make another surprise even though their mainstay player did not play in the semifinals.

Australia are 0-1 up on Finland ATM. It was a surprise that Finland got through against
Canada yesterday. This format is different in that the deciding match is a doubles
match and thats what happened in this case.

It is Italy v Serbia tonight which should be a really interesting match up. Yesterdays
match went to a doubles decider with Sinner/Sonego overcoming doubles specialists
Griekspoor/Koolhof.

Aussies are through into the final after defeating giant-killing Finland 2:0. De Minaur continues his flawless performance in Davis Cup by winning Finland's #1 guy Emil Ruusuvuori 6:4, 6:3. Quite an easy win for a Davis Cup semi final if you ask me. Aussies are now waiting for the winner of the second semi (Italy v Serbia) to face them in the final.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2023, 09:12:03 AM

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Watching Jannick Sinner play in singles and doubles with Lorenzo Sonego, it can be seen that he is very motivated to bring his country to qualify for the semifinals by beating the Netherlands in the deciding match in doubles.
Interestingly, maybe we will again watch the Jannick Sinner vs Novak Djokovic match because Italy and Serbia will be facing each other in the semifinals, but it could be that the two countries use different strategies to win and the doubles match will be decisive.

Finland being able to reach the semifinals is the most surprising thing and facing Australia they have the opportunity to make another surprise even though their mainstay player did not play in the semifinals.

Australia are 0-1 up on Finland ATM. It was a surprise that Finland got through against
Canada yesterday. This format is different in that the deciding match is a doubles
match and thats what happened in this case.

It is Italy v Serbia tonight which should be a really interesting match up. Yesterdays
match went to a doubles decider with Sinner/Sonego overcoming doubles specialists
Griekspoor/Koolhof.

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yes there is again Sinner vs Djokovic! One of the best match to see nowadays Wink

Sinner was heavy criticized here in Italy since he has missing the previous series of match with Italy team.
Plus, he come from "deutsche" speaking part of Italy...(of course he is able to speak perfect Italian...)
Some local "keyboard's lion" are upset with his origins Roll Eyes

and they don't miss any chance to attack him .... Sad

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2023, 09:12:03 AM

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Watching Jannick Sinner play in singles and doubles with Lorenzo Sonego, it can be seen that he is very motivated to bring his country to qualify for the semifinals by beating the Netherlands in the deciding match in doubles.
Interestingly, maybe we will again watch the Jannick Sinner vs Novak Djokovic match because Italy and Serbia will be facing each other in the semifinals, but it could be that the two countries use different strategies to win and the doubles match will be decisive.

Finland being able to reach the semifinals is the most surprising thing and facing Australia they have the opportunity to make another surprise even though their mainstay player did not play in the semifinals.

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 23, 2023, 06:07:10 PM

~snip~

I wouldn't be so sure. If Rafa is to win any ATP title that will definitely be RG. There is some special bond between Rafa and Roland Garros. It's the tournament of his entire career. Perhaps it's wishful thinking but I truly believe Rafa can win RG once again.

As to the Davis Cup, I'll definitely not bet on Italy v Netherlands and Serbia v Great Britain as both these matches promise to be pretty close.

The Finland vs Australia game is probably going to be very interesting. I think whoever wins that match has a really high chances of winning the cup in the end. They have performed quite well in the previous matches.

And in a way they are not the super favorites, so maybe you might get some extra money by betting on them.

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Quote from: aoluain on November 23, 2023, 09:12:03 AM

I agree, that ship has sailed for sure for Nadal. Its probably getting to the stage of a similar expectation by
some people expecting Murray to get to a GS final.
As I posted above there are numerous players which will be in his way.

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Canada v Finland has already played with Finland winning that surprisingly and Czech Republic v Australia
with Australia winning.

Later today we have Italy v Netherlands playing and Serbia v Great Britain playing, Assuming Italy and Serbia
go through I wonder if we will see a Sinner v Djokovich match ^again before the year end?
I cant see odds for Italy but they should be favourites against the Netherlands and Serbia are favourites too
for today.

I wouldn't be so sure. If Rafa is to win any ATP title that will definitely be RG. There is some special bond between Rafa and Roland Garros. It's the tournament of his entire career. Perhaps it's wishful thinking but I truly believe Rafa can win RG once again.

As to the Davis Cup, I'll definitely not bet on Italy v Netherlands and Serbia v Great Britain as both these matches promise to be pretty close.

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I agree, that ship has sailed for sure for Nadal. Its probably getting to the stage of a similar expectation by
some people expecting Murray to get to a GS final.
As I posted above there are numerous players which will be in his way.

Anyone watching the Davis Cup Final 8?

Canada v Finland has already played with Finland winning that surprisingly and Czech Republic v Australia
with Australia winning.

Later today we have Italy v Netherlands playing and Serbia v Great Britain playing, Assuming Italy and Serbia
go through I wonder if we will see a Sinner v Djokovich match ^again before the year end?
I cant see odds for Italy but they should be favourites against the Netherlands and Serbia are favourites too
for today.

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