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Quote from: aoluain on December 09, 2023, 04:03:40 AM

Thats the thing so many people have been talking about and what will be missing with
the new crop of players who will take over from the top 3, there have been countless close
battles between Roger, Rafa and Djokovic and Andy to an extent.

Yes, of course there will be decline in players if new players appear with good achievements, as was the case previously when Alcaraz emerged who succeeded in surpassing and surpassing many senior players.
He is still young but has already achieved some extraordinary titles.
And in close battle between the four players you mentioned, it is clear that there will be one who can dominate the match more, namely Djokovic, he can no longer be doubted.

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Maybe there will be 4 players who dominate the game for the next 10 to 15 years....

Alcaraz, Sinner, Rune and Medvedev? who knows.

They are all the best young tennis players that the ATP has and indeed in the next 10 to 15 years they will always dominate every competition, but Medvedev is the oldest tennis player of the four of them because he is now 27 years old.
Alcaraz is the only tennis player with very bright future.
In fact of all the young tennis players, he is the only one who is thought to be able to be like Djokovic in the future, and he is also believed to be able to surpass the records of various other senior tennis players.

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Thats the thing so many people have been talking about and what will be missing with
the new crop of players who will take over from the top 3, there have been countless close
battles between Roger, Rafa and Djokovic and Andy to an extent.

Maybe there will be 4 players who dominate the game for the next 10 to 15 years....

Alcaraz, Sinner, Rune and Medvedev? who knows.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 06, 2023, 03:36:23 PM

or use the hard courts to build game fitness and play at 80% for example, surely he has to
realise that he has to pick his moments now, he cannot play at 100% for a full season at this
stage in his career?

Indeed, no older player can play the entire season. Djokovic also has to rest more frequently and choose tournaments wisely.

Speaking about positive aspects for Nadal, I should mention that AO courts are the slowest among hard court GS tournaments and therefore more similar to.. clay! I still can't forget the AO final of 2017: the modern classic Nadal v Federer. IMO it's one of the best (if not the best) matches of all time! That 5 set thriller was won by Roger 6–4, 3–6, 6–1, 3–6, 6–3 but Rafa deserved to win as much as Roge,r he just got a bit unlucky in the final set.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 05, 2023, 07:14:53 AM

Nadal has indeed stated that he is ready to return and it seems that the tournament at the start of the year was just a warm-up because his uncle Toni Nadal said that his real target was to hear his name mentioned at the French Open, his favorite tournament and the one that contributed the most Grand Slam titles to his career.
The question is, will he be able to do big things in this tournament? If he can do it, it will certainly be a sweet moment to announce his retirement from the world of tennis.

Ah its a long shot but if he does win it or another grand slam it will be big headline news,
to be able to come back from being a year out due to injury and prove that he still has
what it takes to overcome all the odds.

Would he announce his retirement at that stage or would it spur him on to try and catch
Djokovic's 24 gland slam lead ^{possibly 25 after AO 2024!}

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It could be a lack of funds which is why Djokovic is involved with his career. There is
talent there but if there is no funds he isnt going to be able to play.

On a separate note Nadal has confirmed he will be back playing at Brisbane in January,
obviously in preparation for the Australian Open. He obviously believes he is both fit
and ready for next season and that he can win the AO and potentially Brisbane even
if it is to be used to get back up to playing fitness.

I have mixed feeling regarding the Nadal news. If I were him, I'd miss Australia and get ready for the clay season. Hard surfaces are too harsh for his body and he may get injured again. In Melbourne, hard courts are quite slow according to some players and that adds extra stress on his knees, ligaments etc.

or use the hard courts to build game fitness and play at 80% for example, surely he has to
realise that he has to pick his moments now, he cannot play at 100% for a full season at this
stage in his career?

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Quote from: aoluain on December 05, 2023, 02:03:38 AM

It could be a lack of funds which is why Djokovic is involved with his career. There is
talent there but if there is no funds he isnt going to be able to play.

On a separate note Nadal has confirmed he will be back playing at Brisbane in January,
obviously in preparation for the Australian Open. He obviously believes he is both fit
and ready for next season and that he can win the AO and potentially Brisbane even
if it is to be used to get back up to playing fitness.

I have mixed feeling regarding the Nadal news. If I were him, I'd miss Australia and get ready for the clay season. Hard surfaces are too harsh for his body and he may get injured again. In Melbourne, hard courts are quite slow according to some players and that adds extra stress on his knees, ligaments etc.

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Nadal has indeed stated that he is ready to return and it seems that the tournament at the start of the year was just a warm-up because his uncle Toni Nadal said that his real target was to hear his name mentioned at the French Open, his favorite tournament and the one that contributed the most Grand Slam titles to his career.
The question is, will he be able to do big things in this tournament? If he can do it, it will certainly be a sweet moment to announce his retirement from the world of tennis.

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It could be a lack of funds which is why Djokovic is involved with his career. There is
talent there but if there is no funds he isnt going to be able to play.

On a separate note Nadal has confirmed he will be back playing at Brisbane in January,
obviously in preparation for the Australian Open. He obviously believes he is both fit
and ready for next season and that he can win the AO and potentially Brisbane even
if it is to be used to get back up to playing fitness.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 03, 2023, 05:33:34 AM

The matches that I saw were quite enjoyable, there was actually some very good Tennis
played by all from what I saw, and yea if I were in the top 20 and looking at the competitors
I wouldnt be too worried facing them...

Its going to be different from year to year and there will be ebbs and flows in terms of
talent from year to year.

Well done to Medjedovic for taking the final as under dog, he did very well to bounce back
after losing the first set, Djokovic will be happy too !

Medjedovic did a good job against Fils! Future seems bright for him, he is guaranteed to enter top 100 next year if the goes on like this. The Serb is 20 yo but surprisingly he only started playing challenger grade tournaments last year (technically last year but he only played a single tournament in Germany). Any ideas why? Is he a late bloomer or is it because of lack of funds (typical #1 issue for many talented junior players)?

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The matches that I saw were quite enjoyable, there was actually some very good Tennis
played by all from what I saw, and yea if I were in the top 20 and looking at the competitors
I wouldnt be too worried facing them...

Its going to be different from year to year and there will be ebbs and flows in terms of
talent from year to year.

Well done to Medjedovic for taking the final as under dog, he did very well to bounce back
after losing the first set, Djokovic will be happy too !

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Quote from: serveria.com on December 01, 2023, 04:17:28 PM

My bet will be on the Frenchman, but I have to say that Next Gen is not particularly exciting this year. I'm not sure why, perhaps the overall level of tennis is dropping? Just take a look at previous finalists: Sinner, Rublev, Tsitsipas, Zverev, De Minaur, Alcaraz, Korda, Nakashima, Lehecka...

You can look at it in another way as well, this generation matured real quickly. Alcaraz and Rune could have been here by age requirement but they played in big boys finals. Then you also have Shelton and Musetti that withdrew for their own reasons. Maybe feel like they played on tour long enough to not battle it with young generation.

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Quote from: aoluain on December 01, 2023, 03:27:11 PM

SO here we are with the next gen finals final!

Medjedovic v Fils

Two guys who have been on the ATP tour now for over a year. Medjedovic in particular
has the backing of fellow countryman Djokovic. He hasnt done too much in 2023 does
reaching this final tomorrow act a s a launch pad for him in 2024 I wonder?

Fils is a higher ranked player on the ATP and so is favourite for tomorrow @ 1.56, the
Serbian is 2.45, thats close enough really, there could very well be an upset...

My bet will be on the Frenchman, but I have to say that Next Gen is not particularly exciting this year. I'm not sure why, perhaps the overall level of tennis is dropping? Just take a look at previous finalists: Sinner, Rublev, Tsitsipas, Zverev, De Minaur, Alcaraz, Korda, Nakashima, Lehecka...

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SO here we are with the next gen finals final!

Medjedovic v Fils

Two guys who have been on the ATP tour now for over a year. Medjedovic in particular
has the backing of fellow countryman Djokovic. He hasnt done too much in 2023 does
reaching this final tomorrow act a s a launch pad for him in 2024 I wonder?

Fils is a higher ranked player on the ATP and so is favourite for tomorrow @ 1.56, the
Serbian is 2.45, thats close enough really, there could very well be an upset...

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Stricker play Fils now.

Its very open ATM in the two groups, If Fils wins today he is through to the semi finals,
if Stricker wins it leaves the group open. Fils is favourite @ 1.30

The two Italians Nardi and Cobolli are relying on Stricker to win today, their fate is out of
their hands.

van Assche v Michelsen later, van Assche should be winning that and is favourite @ 1.41
Shelbayh v Medjedovic after that and Medjedovic is favourite @ 1.41

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 30, 2023, 04:43:32 AM

Yep, I like some of the rules - especially the serve pauses.
Having shorter sets does nothing for the excitement though - just makes it more messy. I hope it won't ever be implemented.

The same thing happened with the doubles - the 3rd set instant tiebreak. Did nothing for the popularity, just made it weirder.

Most players don't like doubles. Many top players don't play doubles at all. It also adds headache to the tournament organizers as they need extra time, courts etc... so yeah as a tennis parent I fully agree 3rd set tie-break is better. Players wake up at 5 or 6am go to the practice courts, then wait for the singles match and after that when you're exhausted already and would like to get ready for the next round's singles match, you have to wait for your doubles match and play possibly till 10-11pm.

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Yep, I like some of the rules - especially the serve pauses.
Having shorter sets does nothing for the excitement though - just makes it more messy. I hope it won't ever be implemented.

The same thing happened with the doubles - the 3rd set instant tiebreak. Did nothing for the popularity, just made it weirder.

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I like some of the new rules and would like to see these introduced to all tournaments,

No warm up on court - I just dont understand the idea of having a 1 minute warm up
just after the players have already warmed up inside.

8 second shot clock between 1st and 2nd serve - another good idea, the player is already
in position, has his 2nd serve ball ready, just do it.

These two just speed up the game which can only be a good thing for spectators.

As regards the scoring change with shorter sets and then the match over 4 sets is different.

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Quote from: bct_ail on November 29, 2023, 11:02:13 AM

I have just had a closer look at the Next Generation ATP Finals. The first thing that immediately catch my eyes was that a set only goes to four and is finihed therefore sometimes after only 15 minutes. However, tie-breaks can sometimes take longer.
In general, there are some special rules that have been introduced especially for this tournament. For example, a separate towel rack for the players. This tournament seems like
a test balloon for new rules.

Yeah, it's not the first time Next Gen tournaments are introducing something new. Short sets, no on-court warmup, lower umpire chair, 8 seconds shot clock between 1st and 2nd serve, I guess also first match without linesmen was played during a next gen tournament, and I also think they are using no-ad and no-let (like in junior tournaments) rules.

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I have just had a closer look at the Next Generation ATP Finals. The first thing that immediately catch my eyes was that a set only goes to four and is finihed therefore sometimes after only 15 minutes. However, tie-breaks can sometimes take longer.
In general, there are some special rules that have been introduced especially for this tournament. For example, a separate towel rack for the players. This tournament seems like
a test balloon for new rules.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 28, 2023, 12:54:24 AM

Quote from: aoluain on November 27, 2023, 04:43:53 PM

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On Sinner, this was definitely his best year and hopefully he can make another step
forward in performance, maybe enough to take a grand slam? What is everyones
expectations of this?

this is just matter of time. in my opinion... he has all characteristics that a top tennis player need to have.
bear in mind, Sinner was a perfect unknown player 5 years ago... now he is a top 10 player....
If he continue with that pace he can achieve a lot of success.

Italian players have been hosted in a lot of Italian TV programs (obviously online connection...)
https://video.corriere.it/sport/pietrangeli-non-mi-sembra-carino-declinare-invito-mattarella-io-ci-vado/05ebd67e-8d41-11ee-b4a7-347e05f6b33b
Meanwhile Nicola Pietrangeli continue to criticize the whole team ( Roll Eyes

) this time because Italian players decide to go on holiday and "refused" to meet Italian President of Repubblic (Mattarella) .
I don't think this is a good way to support a team/players, but they probably don't need useless praise Wink

What I like about him is that he is able to keep his emotions under control which
means he isnt shouting out loud after he wins of loses a point. This also is good
to keep his opponents in the dark as regards how he is feeling mentally or regards
fitness.

I also like how he is building his performances from year to year. His management team
are doing a fantastic job and they obviously have a process and realistic goals they
want to achieve, being now #4 they have to be thinking grand slams for 2024...

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Quote from: serveria.com on November 26, 2023, 02:43:10 PM

Aaaaand it's an easy win for team Italy: 2:0 over Australia as predicted by many. Arnaldi defeated Popyrin in the first match and Sinner dismissed de Minaur 6:3, 6:0 in the second. Congrats team Italy!

Yes Jannik Sinner beat Alex de Minaur with score of 6-3, 6-0 for landslide victory 2 - 0.
From this victory, Sinner also managed to take home the 2023 Davis Cup (Davis Cup) and the match against De Minaur looked very interesting because Sinner appeared aggressive which meant that De Minaur couldn't do much to keep up with Sinner.
This 2023 (Davis Cup) victory also gave Sinner satisfaction because he also beat Djokovic, who previously made him unable to compete at the ATP.

Previously, Italy was also almost eliminated from the competition, but thanks to Sinner who defeated Djokovic, he was able to save Italy in the 2023 (Davis Cup) competition.

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