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Quote from: Kemarit on February 09, 2021, 04:16:18 PM

Quote from: babygun on February 09, 2021, 12:57:25 PM

Quote from: aoluain on February 09, 2021, 05:40:51 AM

Yes I know, just saying in Sinners case he was after going the full distance in the previous tournament
and had more of a case to call trainers on and Shapo using his toilet breaks and trainer time
and then giving out to umpire because he didnt get a 3rd break.

I'm big fan of Sinner, good ethics on court.

Too bad Sinner lost, but these are the tricks that the more experienced players sometimes play. I don't like it, but you see it on a lot of sports (even on a lower level).

Tsitsipas just won very easily against Simon: 6-1, 6-2, 6-1. He seems to be in top shape, so hopefully he can go all the way!

Yeah, my boy Tsitsipas seems to be on a good start, but so as other rank players, but it feels good to see him at least winning in the first round.

Wanted to see how Zverev will do as well, and also we have Djokovic playing. They should win their respective match in straight sets.

We are off to a nice start mate. Tsitsipas looked very good and I think he is primed to make it far in the tournament this year and maybe go all the way and win it which we are hoping for of course as we have money on him to win the AO.

Roberto Bautista Agut was a surprise loss to me as he has been performing well but was knocked out by Radu Albot. Goffin was also knocked out by up coming Aussie Alexei Popyrin so a couple more surprises. I must say that watching the tennis with so few fans is still strange to me and even though the max allowed at the AO is 30,000 a day the numbers are way down at around 20,000. This virus has really scared a lot of people from big tournaments but hopefully as we get deep in the tournament more people come to watch the matches.

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Quote from: babygun on February 09, 2021, 12:57:25 PM

Quote from: aoluain on February 09, 2021, 05:40:51 AM

Yes I know, just saying in Sinners case he was after going the full distance in the previous tournament
and had more of a case to call trainers on and Shapo using his toilet breaks and trainer time
and then giving out to umpire because he didnt get a 3rd break.

I'm big fan of Sinner, good ethics on court.

Too bad Sinner lost, but these are the tricks that the more experienced players sometimes play. I don't like it, but you see it on a lot of sports (even on a lower level).

Tsitsipas just won very easily against Simon: 6-1, 6-2, 6-1. He seems to be in top shape, so hopefully he can go all the way!

Yes I understand these are "legal" tactics to disrupt the opponents rhythm, not very sporting.

Tsitsipas is definitely in good form and to win easily against Simon who is a good player.

Did anyone see the "new 17 year old" Carlos Alcaraz or Spain today? he had his first Grand Slam
win today and Rafa is very impressed with him.

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Quote from: babygun on February 09, 2021, 12:57:25 PM

Quote from: aoluain on February 09, 2021, 05:40:51 AM

Yes I know, just saying in Sinners case he was after going the full distance in the previous tournament
and had more of a case to call trainers on and Shapo using his toilet breaks and trainer time
and then giving out to umpire because he didnt get a 3rd break.

I'm big fan of Sinner, good ethics on court.

Too bad Sinner lost, but these are the tricks that the more experienced players sometimes play. I don't like it, but you see it on a lot of sports (even on a lower level).

Tsitsipas just won very easily against Simon: 6-1, 6-2, 6-1. He seems to be in top shape, so hopefully he can go all the way!

Yeah, my boy Tsitsipas seems to be on a good start, but so as other rank players, but it feels good to see him at least winning in the first round.

Wanted to see how Zverev will do as well, and also we have Djokovic playing. They should win their respective match in straight sets.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 09, 2021, 05:40:51 AM

Yes I know, just saying in Sinners case he was after going the full distance in the previous tournament
and had more of a case to call trainers on and Shapo using his toilet breaks and trainer time
and then giving out to umpire because he didnt get a 3rd break.

I'm big fan of Sinner, good ethics on court.

Too bad Sinner lost, but these are the tricks that the more experienced players sometimes play. I don't like it, but you see it on a lot of sports (even on a lower level).

Tsitsipas just won very easily against Simon: 6-1, 6-2, 6-1. He seems to be in top shape, so hopefully he can go all the way!

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Quote from: vennali on February 09, 2021, 04:53:26 AM

Quote from: aoluain on February 08, 2021, 05:49:31 PM

Tsitsipas V Simon should be a great match up,

Another 5 setter today was Sinner V Shapovalov, I didnt see it but was supposed to be a
great match. Sinner lost 3-6 6-3 6-2 4-6 6-4 and played gallantly but I guess it was an
uphill battle for him after winning Great Ocean Road tournament after coming through
a tough semi-final.

Shapovalov had a 2 toilet breaks, trainer on and giving out to the ref, totally different to how
Jannik Sinner conducted himself.

Tsitsipas had been in real good form at the ATP cup, I think he's way better than Simon and should be a comfortable 3-0 win for him. In case of Shapo using breaks and trainer, it is in umpires hands to judge and decide if he's doing it to get an advantage or a genuine concern. Not much Sinner can do in that situation other than wait.

Yes I know, just saying in Sinners case he was after going the full distance in the previous tournament
and had more of a case to call trainers on and Shapo using his toilet breaks and trainer time
and then giving out to umpire because he didnt get a 3rd break.

I'm big fan of Sinner, good ethics on court.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 08, 2021, 05:49:31 PM

Tsitsipas V Simon should be a great match up,

Another 5 setter today was Sinner V Shapovalov, I didnt see it but was supposed to be a
great match. Sinner lost 3-6 6-3 6-2 4-6 6-4 and played gallantly but I guess it was an
uphill battle for him after winning Great Ocean Road tournament after coming through
a tough semi-final.

Shapovalov had a 2 toilet breaks, trainer on and giving out to the ref, totally different to how
Jannik Sinner conducted himself.

Tsitsipas had been in real good form at the ATP cup, I think he's way better than Simon and should be a comfortable 3-0 win for him. In case of Shapo using breaks and trainer, it is in umpires hands to judge and decide if he's doing it to get an advantage or a genuine concern. Not much Sinner can do in that situation other than wait.

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Quote from: vella85 on February 08, 2021, 04:53:15 PM

It was an interesting first day of the AO with a few big upsets on the Men's side and Women's side. Monfils was the big upset on the Men's side losing to un-seeded Ruusuvuori in a thrilling fifth set match.

I'm looking forward to tonight's match between Stefanos Tsitsipas and Gilles Simon, it should be a great match and as I have a bet on Tsitsipas I hope he can get the job done and also I'll be watching him closely to see how he looks.

Not considering Monfils loosing as a surprise. I believe Ruusuvuori was also a favorite on all bookies with odds like 1.6 on him.

What bet do you have on Tsitsi? ML odds are very small I was thinking on taking 7.5 handicap on him. He should destroy Simon and look good while doing it Grin

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Quote from: vella85 on February 08, 2021, 04:53:15 PM

It was an interesting first day of the AO with a few big upsets on the Men's side and Women's side. Monfils was the big upset on the Men's side losing to un-seeded Ruusuvuori in a thrilling fifth set match. There were a few fifth set matches with some of the top players, I think it shows that they are building on their fitness after being in quarantine for a while. In the Women's draw we saw a huge upset with Kerber losing in straight sets and not even scoring a set point in the first set. The other upset was Riske losing in straight sets also, I think we'll see more upsets today as some players might not be up to match fitness.

I'm looking forward to tonight's match between Stefanos Tsitsipas and Gilles Simon, it should be a great match and as I have a bet on Tsitsipas I hope he can get the job done and also I'll be watching him closely to see how he looks.

Tsitsipas V Simon should be a great match up,

Another 5 setter today was Sinner V Shapovalov, I didnt see it but was supposed to be a
great match. Sinner lost 3-6 6-3 6-2 4-6 6-4 and played gallantly but I guess it was an
uphill battle for him after winning Great Ocean Road tournament after coming through
a tough semi-final.

Shapovalov had a 2 toilet breaks, trainer on and giving out to the ref, totally different to how
Jannik Sinner conducted himself.

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Quote from: aesma on February 08, 2021, 12:51:05 PM

The rules were known in advance and applied to everybody. Some players decided not to come as a result, giving better chances for others to win, are they complaining about that ?
In any case, millionaires complaining about some quarantine time in a luxury hotel isn't a good look !

On the one hand, the rules were known in advance, on the other hand, not all players ' interpretation of these rules coincides with the interpretation of the rules by the organizers. Also, do not forget that the tennis players who flew to Australia had three options for quarantine. The softest option for the TOP 3 men and women in Adelaide, the harder option for the rest of the tennis players, but with a training process, and the hardest option for those unfortunate people who were unlucky enough to fly on the same flight with COVID 19 patients. These unfortunate people spent the entire quarantine period in their room without training, some without basic exercise equipment and tennis balls, and some like a Kazakh tennis player in the room next to the mice in the room.

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It was an interesting first day of the AO with a few big upsets on the Men's side and Women's side. Monfils was the big upset on the Men's side losing to un-seeded Ruusuvuori in a thrilling fifth set match. There were a few fifth set matches with some of the top players, I think it shows that they are building on their fitness after being in quarantine for a while. In the Women's draw we saw a huge upset with Kerber losing in straight sets and not even scoring a set point in the first set. The other upset was Riske losing in straight sets also, I think we'll see more upsets today as some players might not be up to match fitness.

I'm looking forward to tonight's match between Stefanos Tsitsipas and Gilles Simon, it should be a great match and as I have a bet on Tsitsipas I hope he can get the job done and also I'll be watching him closely to see how he looks.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 06, 2021, 07:34:45 AM

The BBC in today's article gives a more interesting look at AO.
The most important question is whether this competition is fair and gives an equal chance to all tennis players, since as many as 72 tennis players were in very strict isolation for 14 days, locked in hotel rooms and without the possibility of proper training.
Controversial tennis player Kyrgios has made a very interesting comment on the current situation in Australia: "Everyone is really playing it by ear. Nobody really knows who is in form and who is not,".
In any case, this will be a very interesting and uncertain competition.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55675606

The rules were known in advance and applied to everybody. Some players decided not to come as a result, giving better chances for others to win, are they complaining about that ?

In any case, millionaires complaining about some quarantine time in a luxury hotel isn't a good look !

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Quote from: vella85 on February 06, 2021, 04:27:13 PM

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 06, 2021, 07:34:45 AM

The BBC in today's article gives a more interesting look at AO.
The most important question is whether this competition is fair and gives an equal chance to all tennis players, since as many as 72 tennis players were in very strict isolation for 14 days, locked in hotel rooms and without the possibility of proper training.
Controversial tennis player Kyrgios has made a very interesting comment on the current situation in Australia: "Everyone is really playing it by ear. Nobody really knows who is in form and who is not,".
In any case, this will be a very interesting and uncertain competition.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55675606

As Kyrgios said, the AO will be an interesting and uncertain game since it was hard to know who's player is in form or not but I expect the competition to give chance to some underdog player to forge ahead in their career and I also expect the competition to show us who's the smartest and who have genuine affection for the game.
Therefore, the competition will be fair to those that are well prepared and can make positive out of every situation.

This is why I decided to go with some value and placed a bet on Stefanos Tsitsipas to win the AO. I will not be betting during the AO as it could be risky for the first week until we see which players are in form.

I agreed with you concern the idea of not making any bet until it the end of the tournament (first round stage) first week in other to know the players that are in shape but making decision that Stefanos Tsitsipas will win the AO doesn't seem right if you truly put the players shape into consideration.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 07, 2021, 03:23:56 AM

I’m really sorry Andy Murray isn’t going to perform at AO because it was probably his last chance to perform there.
In an interview with the BBC, he expressed his frustration over this: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55947626
He blames the culture at the National Tennis Center in London for getting the coronavirus that prevented him from performing at the AO.
Unfortunately, due to injuries and the epidemic, it seems that some more important players will also not be performing at the AO, like Serena, Osaka etc.?

Just to be fair with the National Tennis Center in London, Murray performance has been in the decline after that injury. It was really a career ending for him, although the recover and play again, it was not the same Murray.

Reports say that Serena and Osaka might be injured, if they play in AO, we don't know if they can reach the finals.

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I’m really sorry Andy Murray isn’t going to perform at AO because it was probably his last chance to perform there.
In an interview with the BBC, he expressed his frustration over this: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55947626
He blames the culture at the National Tennis Center in London for getting the coronavirus that prevented him from performing at the AO.
Unfortunately, due to injuries and the epidemic, it seems that some more important players will also not be performing at the AO, like Serena, Osaka etc.?

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 06, 2021, 06:42:34 PM

Speaking of Nadal,

'Not well enough': Rafa Nadal's shock admission ahead of Australian Open.

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“I'm not well enough to play. I’m improving bit by bit, but I’m not ready to play a match with maximum intensity,” Nadal told Spanish broadcaster Vamos.

Nadal hasn’t played a competitive match since the semis of the ATP Finals in London on November 21.

And then we also have this,

Injuries mount as Osaka, Serena, Kenin struggle ahead of Aussie Open.

Are we going to see injury plague Australian Open this year + pandemic?

We might see some surprises early on, so it's going to be very difficult to bet but we all love some good upsets so better to analyzed the players are the tournament progresses.

@Kemarit it’ll be really sad if top stars are injured, or they’re not ready for this tournament, but I’m yet hoping that most of them can recover in time for this tournament. I also feel that if someone can constantly post the status of injured or recovering player’s, then it’ll help us all to make informed decisions regarding our bets for this tournament.

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Speaking of Nadal,

'Not well enough': Rafa Nadal's shock admission ahead of Australian Open.

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“I'm not well enough to play. I’m improving bit by bit, but I’m not ready to play a match with maximum intensity,” Nadal told Spanish broadcaster Vamos.

Nadal hasn’t played a competitive match since the semis of the ATP Finals in London on November 21.

And then we also have this,

Injuries mount as Osaka, Serena, Kenin struggle ahead of Aussie Open.

Are we going to see injury plague Australian Open this year + pandemic?

We might see some surprises early on, so it's going to be very difficult to bet but we all love some good upsets so better to analyzed the players are the tournament progresses.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 06, 2021, 07:34:45 AM

The BBC in today's article gives a more interesting look at AO.
The most important question is whether this competition is fair and gives an equal chance to all tennis players, since as many as 72 tennis players were in very strict isolation for 14 days, locked in hotel rooms and without the possibility of proper training.
Controversial tennis player Kyrgios has made a very interesting comment on the current situation in Australia: "Everyone is really playing it by ear. Nobody really knows who is in form and who is not,".
In any case, this will be a very interesting and uncertain competition.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55675606

As Kyrgios said, the AO will be an interesting and uncertain game since it was hard to know who's player is in form or not but I expect the competition to give chance to some underdog player to forge ahead in their career and I also expect the competition to show us who's the smartest and who have genuine affection for the game.
Therefore, the competition will be fair to those that are well prepared and can make positive out of every situation.

This is why I decided to go with some value and placed a bet on Stefanos Tsitsipas to win the AO. I will not be betting during the AO as it could be risky for the first week until we see which players are in form.

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Same here buddy, put $20 on our boy Stefanos Tsitsipas to win in the Finals in AO. Hope he can pull one of the biggest performance at the start of the year when he is fresh (and so are the others).

I like his chances this year as I think it will be an open grand slam even with Djokovic and Nadal playing as we don't know which players are in form ready to go so why not take a gamble on a player paying over $10 to win. Good luck to us both mate.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 06, 2021, 07:34:45 AM

The BBC in today's article gives a more interesting look at AO.
The most important question is whether this competition is fair and gives an equal chance to all tennis players, since as many as 72 tennis players were in very strict isolation for 14 days, locked in hotel rooms and without the possibility of proper training.
Controversial tennis player Kyrgios has made a very interesting comment on the current situation in Australia: "Everyone is really playing it by ear. Nobody really knows who is in form and who is not,".
In any case, this will be a very interesting and uncertain competition.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55675606

As Kyrgios said, the AO will be an interesting and uncertain game since it was hard to know who's player is in form or not but I expect the competition to give chance to some underdog player to forge ahead in their career and I also expect the competition to show us who's the smartest and who have genuine affection for the game.
Therefore, the competition will be fair to those that are well prepared and can make positive out of every situation.

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It's going to be hell for betting. First GS of the year, debatable players' form, no significant matches for a while to gauge what shape the players are in.

There might be value in handicaps on outsiders and over on games, I plan to try early on and see how it goes. It would not surprise me as well if we get a new GS winner here.

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The BBC in today's article gives a more interesting look at AO.
The most important question is whether this competition is fair and gives an equal chance to all tennis players, since as many as 72 tennis players were in very strict isolation for 14 days, locked in hotel rooms and without the possibility of proper training.
Controversial tennis player Kyrgios has made a very interesting comment on the current situation in Australia: "Everyone is really playing it by ear. Nobody really knows who is in form and who is not,".
In any case, this will be a very interesting and uncertain competition.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/55675606

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