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Quote from: Indymoney on June 24, 2020, 06:13:11 PM

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We have some good start in sports after nearly 100 days break and soccer is going on successfully but sadly in tennis we have some serious trouble as many players tested positive because they was not serious about this all they must have to be models for others but they not adopted all rules and now feeling some serious problems hopefully they all will recover and we will able to have them in tennis court in near future.

To tell you the truth i expected Tennis is far better suited for a situation like this than group sports like Soccer Cricket and now it turns that if the organizing party is not serious about taking precaution then everything is doomed including everyone who participated in the event. The major tournaments will take these precautions seriously as they will not risk the blame game if something goes wrong and with the blame Djokovic is receiving is a lesson for everyone who is willing to take the risk.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 24, 2020, 04:12:44 PM

How ironic isn't it, Djokovic seems to raised a lot of concern early, even hinting not taking a vaccine if there is one, (discussions on this a page back), and then he setup Adria Cup, with no regards to safety precautions, the after party was really a party pre-pandemic.

There is a fine line between confidence and over confidence and Djokovic was vocal about it and he was careless with his activities and he is now paying the price and everyone is blaming him for his lack of precaution and Marin Cilic and Coric are positive and we have no idea about the rest of the results.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 24, 2020, 04:12:44 PM

And now that US Open is coming up in the next couple of weeks, I do hope that it will push through, but learning through this bad experience, ITF should be more strictier to players specially fans. And I don't know if we are going to see a competitive US Open this year, with players testing positive or skipping the tournament at all.

Players that tested positive should skip the major tournaments until they are virus free for over a month to protect the rest of the players.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

It was a total disaster and no one was tested and social distancing was out of the equation and the videos have surfaced that everyone was having a good time partying neglecting the fact that the virus is still rampant if you are careful and now everyone is blaming Djokovic. With the incident we need to ensure a standard protocol to test everyone participating in the event if not these mishaps will repeat.

We have some good start in sports after nearly 100 days break and soccer is going on successfully but sadly in tennis we have some serious trouble as many players tested positive because they was not serious about this all they must have to be models for others but they not adopted all rules and now feeling some serious problems hopefully they all will recover and we will able to have them in tennis court in near future.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

It was a total disaster and no one was tested and social distancing was out of the equation and the videos have surfaced that everyone was having a good time partying neglecting the fact that the virus is still rampant if you are careful and now everyone is blaming Djokovic. With the incident we need to ensure a standard protocol to test everyone participating in the event if not these mishaps will repeat.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on June 23, 2020, 07:12:22 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on June 22, 2020, 09:17:50 PM

I think the ITF really did a good job initially. But as we have seen in this tournament wherein Djokovic organized, it seems that they literally not take any precautions, pre, intra and post tournament. They party they didn't follow the protocol of social distancing and stuff t hat's why Djokovic is taking the flank now.

Yep, the Adria Cup was just poorly managed Corona-wise. All those spectators (wonder how many of them tested positive afterwards) and then the footage from the party, dear lord. US Open should have better hygiene concept, few player staff and there will be no spectators. I mean, if the soccer leagues can get it done with quite some travelling, I see no reason, why the ITF would fail with all players/staff being in one place and basically not allowed to go anywhere else than hotel/venue.

Funnily Djokovic was among the players, who raised their concern about US Open and then he organized this Adria Cup so poorly Roll Eyes

And he tested postive now as well.

How ironic isn't it, Djokovic seems to raised a lot of concern early, even hinting not taking a vaccine if there is one, (discussions on this a page back), and then he setup Adria Cup, with no regards to safety precautions, the after party was really a party pre-pandemic.

And now that US Open is coming up in the next couple of weeks, I do hope that it will push through, but learning through this bad experience, ITF should be more strictier to players specially fans. And I don't know if we are going to see a competitive US Open this year, with players testing positive or skipping the tournament at all.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

Right, specially coming from Djokovic himself, no doubt that it was a really great idea on coming up with this Adria tour as tennis fans are really looking for some action amidst the pandemic. But they didn't go according to the protocols of the new normal, they still played as if there's no Covid-19 pandemic that killed thousands of people. And it seems that they didn't take it seriously, and now the aftermath of the said tournaments that will have a ripple effect on the next tennis tournaments.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 24, 2020, 01:10:26 AM

Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

idea was good, but they missed with their behaviour around the tour
if you are a tennis star (or a whatever star you may be), you have to be aware that people are following your behaviour, and they are influenced by you, so you have to be responsible, and they were not responsible on the tour

so basically, good idea, but implementation was bad enough to have a bunch of consequences, hopefully everyone will be fine, but we do not know how many people beside tennis stars got infected

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Quote from: verita1 on June 24, 2020, 12:06:13 AM

It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

I agree that Djokovic, Ivanisevic, Cilic and others had great idea behind the Adria tour, they wanted to help others but they didn’t understand how serious is situation with coronavirus and didn't protect players and fans enough.
Now, after everything what happened in the Adria tournament who knows what will happen with other tennis tournaments and tennis season this year.

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It is unfortunate that these great tennis figures have tested positive at Covid19. The Adria Tour tournament was born with the idea of raising money for those most affected by the coronavirus. The Coronavirus is not a joke, it is a sad reality, they did not follow the protocols, beginning with social distancing.

The coronavirus is treacherous, sometimes people are positive and have no symptoms and we trust that everything is fine and we make the mistakes we are seeing.

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Yes I also believe that Djokovic had good intentions in mind when organising this tournament but it seems that the right precautions were taken when playing. Anyway people just need to take a look at what has happened in other sports where players have tested positive, I really think that there is no way at stopping this virus even if players do the right thing. Now I'm not saying what Djokovic was a good thing but its happening everywhere around the world no matter what we all do.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 03:10:54 PM

Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after all he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

I do believe that Djokovic had the best intentions, but than organise everything in a safe way. Don't organise basketgames or parties without any social distancing.
Dimitrov is indeed the main person to blame, he didn't want to take the test and continued playing and participating at activities when feeling sick...

What I don't get is that none of the players really cared about social distancing and stuff. What were they thinking?

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 03:10:54 PM

Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

I guess most of the people have same opinion as you. Djokovic in the last two months had few very questionable ^{I don't want to say "stupid" although it sounds that way} attitudes how to protect yourself from virus, he gave very brave and weird statement about COVID vaccine ... he simply irritated the public with some of his stupid actions
Now even if he has the best intention with this tour in Zadar, his previous outbursts complicate everything.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on June 23, 2020, 11:46:05 AM

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

It is just a way to show that they try to keep the health measures at their max.
Even if the distances are kept in tennis matches they governments need to show that when an infection happens and it is dangerous for the public health then the tournaments needs to shut down.

I understand that every federation and organization takes precautions. However, life continues and will continue to do so. Let's assume that this pandemic will come in waves 2 or 3 in the coming period. What, in a few years, will not there be a tennis competition? We have to get used to the "new normal" concept. And I think we will have to live a little longer in these new normal conditions.

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Quote from: babygun on June 23, 2020, 12:07:57 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

I really believe Djokovic had the best intentions in mind when he started this project, after all he has put a lot of his own money to start it. There was a lot of mistakes in organization but that is not all his fault. Same fault lies with venues and local tennis associations. They are the ones that organized all the details locally.

If we are pointing fingers to tennis players, then Dimitrov is the one with biggest share of guilt in this situation. He came from USA, one of the countries with biggest corona problem, and never got tested. He was even asked to take a test few times and he declined, 2 times in Zadar and probably even in Serbia. He was feeling out of breath for few days while he continued to play and party, WTF. Of course, that could all be lies or headlines to make more money but I believe at least some of the mentioned stuff is true.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 23, 2020, 07:17:55 AM

Breaking news!
Djokovic and his wife have coronavirus but they don't have symptoms at the moment.
Their children don't have coronavirus.
More news to follow.
Source : https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2192272

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

After Dimitrov tested positive, chances were high that also Djokovic would test positive.
He may have had the best intentions, but how stupid can you be? He acted as corona didn't existed and this is the sad result.
I wasn't a fan of Djokovic and after this, I will never become it. But also the other players who participated have acted like a fool (Dimitrov, Troicki, Zverev,...)

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Quote from: vycl87 on June 23, 2020, 09:52:26 AM

Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

It is just a way to show that they try to keep the health measures at their max.
Even if the distances are kept in tennis matches they governments need to show that when an infection happens and it is dangerous for the public health then the tournaments needs to shut down.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 23, 2020, 09:24:54 AM

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Absolutely I agree. Tennis matches are the ones with the lowest audience factor. It is also one of the sports competitions where the distance between individuals is the highest among sports branches. The distance between employees in the field is always available for protection.

In this case, it is difficult to understand the cancellation of tennis tournaments while playing football matches.

In this process, the cancellation of "team sports" played only in closed environments can be considered reasonable. Indoor sports such as basketball and volleyball can pose a risk for the virus.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on June 23, 2020, 07:12:22 AM

Yep, the Adria Cup was just poorly managed Corona-wise. All those spectators (wonder how many of them tested positive afterwards) and then the footage from the party, dear lord. US Open should have better hygiene concept, few player staff and there will be no spectators. I mean, if the soccer leagues can get it done with quite some travelling, I see no reason, why the ITF would fail with all players/staff being in one place and basically not allowed to go anywhere else than hotel/venue.

I really don't understand the problem with organizing tennis matches. Yes, some concessions have to be made but it is sport without contact and you already have a great start there. There is only two players on the field (or 4 in doubles) as opposed to the football where there is 22 players. Then you have tennis crowds which are very well behaved as opposed to the football, you could sell the tickets for every 3rd seat in every other row without any problem. That still a lot of people in biggest arenas.

Only actual problem is traveling between tournaments but that could be handled with tours consisting of several tournaments in big tennis countries like USA, Australia, England, France and then 2 week break before next tour. Another problem is probably money, all that tournaments get money mainly from tickets and parties in these times there should be bigger cut for them from television rights and commercials (both on air and around the court).

If ATP/WTA doesn't manage to get this sport sorted in Corona time it is just their fault. This Adria tour was a perfect example that it is better to sort it out at higher instances than leave players to be players and do what they like.

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Breaking news!
Djokovic and his wife have coronavirus but they don't have symptoms at the moment.
Their children don't have coronavirus.
More news to follow.
Source : https://www.index.hr/mobile/clanak.aspx?category=vijesti&id=2192272

Djokovic 's first statement : I'm terribly sorry, I had the best intentions.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 22, 2020, 09:17:50 PM

I think the ITF really did a good job initially. But as we have seen in this tournament wherein Djokovic organized, it seems that they literally not take any precautions, pre, intra and post tournament. They party they didn't follow the protocol of social distancing and stuff t hat's why Djokovic is taking the flank now.

Yep, the Adria Cup was just poorly managed Corona-wise. All those spectators (wonder how many of them tested positive afterwards) and then the footage from the party, dear lord. US Open should have better hygiene concept, few player staff and there will be no spectators. I mean, if the soccer leagues can get it done with quite some travelling, I see no reason, why the ITF would fail with all players/staff being in one place and basically not allowed to go anywhere else than hotel/venue.

Funnily Djokovic was among the players, who raised their concern about US Open and then he organized this Adria Cup so poorly Roll Eyes

And he tested postive now as well.

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